Lou Dobbs Stroking his own EGO on his show!

The article you offered in support cited a reduction in wages (adjusted for inflation... there's the real thief that you say nothing about) in these fields. It gave no consideration of the fact that any factor other than immigration was responsible.

I don't deny that a higher supply of labor without changes in the demand will lower the price. But demand increases for many services with immigration. These immigrants are not just working machines that never consume.

Even the studies most critical of immigration show fairly small decline in low skilled wages. Some studies show virtually no decline. And all of them show increases in wages in other sectors. There is no race to the bottom in any sector.

http://www.cepr.org/pubs/new-dps/dplist.asp?dpno=6551
 
Studies show that though the overall damage is small, it directly hits the lowest paid workers in our population. Even what a highly paid economist terms a “small” lowering of wages to a low-income worker can be the difference between being able to eat dinner every night, and being able to eat dinner every other night.

So while I mainly side with the liberal argument that we cannot and should not deport millions of undocumented immigrants, I believe that to ignore the fact that a glut of cheap labor has a negative effect on our low income workers is to put blinders on. It needs to be addressed if only so that it can be solved. This doesn’t mean the solution is to start ranting and raving like Lou Dobbs, and to traffic with racist groups, again like Lou Dobbs.

And it doesn’t mean either, to spout free market beliefs which are your answer to everything. There are other solutions. One is to legalize these people, first off. Creating an underclass of politically powerless laborers (“temporary guest workers” cannot vote), is certainly not the answer, and leads inevitably to abuse and oppression. He who cannot vote, is oppressed by definition. If however, they are legalized, then they have more rights off the bat.

And then, they can be unionized.

There is another vision. Yours is not the only one.
 
You still have not shown any supposed glut. Glut is an excess.

And it doesn’t mean either, to spout free market beliefs which are your answer to everything. There are other solutions. One is to legalize these people, first off. Creating an underclass of politically powerless laborers (“temporary guest workers” cannot vote), is certainly not the answer, and leads inevitably to abuse and oppression. He who cannot vote, is oppressed by definition. If however, they are legalized, then they have more rights off the bat.

lol... "Legalizing" them is the free market solution. The problem of them being illegal is exactly what I stated in my first post here.
 
Here is how I initially responded to your post...

What glut of cheap labor? The only problem with immigration is illegal immigration and that's mainly caused by government restrictions. When capital is mobile and labor is not, labor loses. It hurts us and our workers.
 
Not sure what is involved with that. Sounds kind of like managed free trade to me, though. I'd prefer a simpler solution. Allow them to become citizens or immigrate freely.
 
I think one day we should allow freedom of movement between the America's, like the do in the EU.

However, I'd like to do it in the way that the corporations aren't lobbying for. It'll be a long time until we're ready for that.
 
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