Man Fired For His Bigotry

Southern Man said:
I stated that I assumed that. And again, it is based on my personal experience in similar situations. My guess is that she baited him, and that he was a dufus for taking the bait.
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Based on what the victim himself has stated, there is no evidence to support the argument that she baited him.
 
WinterBorn said:
There was nothing other than this man's claims that she mentioned her fiance 4 times, and then he went to the chapel. When he came back he had already made up his mind to do something, and was waiting on the opportunity.....
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That's not what he said in the interview.
 
WinterBorn said:
Other than a vague reference to perhaps a few more mentions of her fiance, that is what he said. He went and prayed and came back with his plan.
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That's your theory, unsubstantiated based on his statements. Mine is that she came back with hers, and continued to bait him, and the fool bit.
 
Southern Man said:
That's your theory, unsubstantiated based on his statements. Mine is that she came back with hers, and continued to bait him, and the fool bit.
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Except my theory is backed up by what the man said. When yo uget fired and you are interviewed on national tv, you tell them the bad stuff that went on.

The most he could muster was that she kept mentioning her fiance.

And he decides that gives him cause to say her lifestyle is bad and call her a deviant?

No, there is no evidence that she baited him, as much as you would like for their to be.
 
Southern Man said:
Mine is too, although you would be more experienced on the "fired" issue.
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Ahh, trying for the diversion again?

No, the man said only that she mentioned her fiance, nothing more. That is not baiting, that is simple conversation.

Of course, considering the way you feel about homosexuals, your response is not surprising.
 
Damocles said:
Tolerance means learning to live and work with people you wouldn't choose to, it doesn't mean you get to insult them all day long with no repercussion. It doesn't seem like this guy understood what tolerance is, work isn't the place to proselytize on the sins of homosexuality.

Of course, we are only getting half of the story. Did she constantly insult the Christian? Tell him his beliefs were wrong? Talk about her own religion? Did she continue to push her personal life around him after he asked her not to?

We don't know. But work also wouldn't be the place for that.
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Many years ago when I was repairing a HVAC system for a school I had lunch with the maintenance and housekeeping group. They were discussing that years roster of teachers and the guys were commenting on which ones they'd consider dating and how great a new, young teacher looked.

One lady on the housekeeping staff, probably around 50 years old, noisily put her can of soft drink down and said, "You decide who you'll date by how a person looks? Bend us over and we all look the same!"

Another memorable moment from my working days.
 
WinterBorn said:
Ahh, trying for the diversion again?

No, the man said only that she mentioned her fiance, nothing more. That is not baiting, that is simple conversation.

Of course, considering the way you feel about homosexuals, your response is not surprising.
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Obviously it wasn't simple conversation. I don't think you know at all how I "feel" about queers.
 
Southern Man said:
Obviously it wasn't simple conversation. I don't think you know at all how I "feel" about queers.
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I think you have made it quite obvious how you feel about homosexuals.

The woman mentioned her fiance, and you call that baiting? At the time of this event, gay marriage is legal in Mass. She was not inviting him to the wedding, discussing sexual issues or even discussing whether or not gay marriage is right. The state supreme court ruled it is legal, and she is taking advantage of the ability to marry the woman she loves. This isn't about gay marriage. This is about a woman being excited about getting married to someone she loves, and some twit who decides he should be able to express his opinion regardless of the harm or hurt it causes.

She mentioned her fiance. That is not opinion or belief, but fact.

He told her that homosexuality is "bad stuff" and that is strictly belief and opinion.

Yes, SM, how you feel about homosexuals is quite clear. As long as they don't expect to be treated as equals, don't show any affection in public, and don't discuss their life, you are content to have them stay in the closet.
 
Southern Man said:
A simple conversation wouldn't have resulted in a firing.
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What she said was in simple conversation. Its the whole "bad stuff" part that went beyond simple conversation.

Not to mention using the word "deviant" at her.



She was having a simple conversation. What he was doing was a little more devious.
 
WinterBorn said:
What she said was in simple conversation. Its the whole "bad stuff" part that went beyond simple conversation.

Not to mention using the word "deviant" at her.



She was having a simple conversation. What he was doing was a little more devious.
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Baseless assumptions on your part.
 
ib1yysguy said:
You're incapable of seeing the larger picture. Evangelical right wingers ALWAYS attempt to play up the ridiculous notion that Christians are under attack from somewhere. They're always the victims. It's fucking ridiculous given the fact that they are single handedly responsible for just about all of the real discrimination that happens in this country.

Who was against interracial marriage? Who is against gay marriage? Who was against integration? Voting rights for blacks? Who's against immigration?

You, sir, are a retard. Move along.
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Funny the only acceptable legal discrimination is against white males. but sure, blame the christians. *shrug*
 
Southern Man said:
Baseless assumptions on your part.
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Based on evidence given by the man who was fired.

He said she mentioned her fiance, and that was all he said.

He said a bit more and paid for it.



Remember once, not long ago, when I mentioned that in the near future the anti-gay crowd would be treated like the racists of the segregation era are treated now?

Welcome to a glimpse at that future.
 
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