Many dead in Florida high school

We can start by being honest. The 2nd amendment doesn't state every American has the right to carry a gun.

But Americans will NEVER accept that truth.
 
We can also profile, stop and frisk every white boy and man in America and either kill them or confiscate their weapons.

It's what they do to Blacks.
 
crowonapost said:
That so rarely happens that to even posit that has become a running joke. ESPECIALLY on this subject.
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For the most part I'm not going to disagree. However all we can control is ourselves so if he wants to have a conversation about what gun rules he's like to see established then start one. And if some people laugh then so be it. That's going to happen on any board you post on. If you can't take someone trolling you the truth is you shouldn't be posting on a board like this. But there could be others that want to join a real discussion.

Just sitting back and complaining while doing nothing yourself doesn't change a thing.
 
cawacko said:
For the most part I'm not going to disagree. However all we can control is ourselves so if he wants to have a conversation about what gun rules he's like to see established then start one. And if some people laugh then so be it. That's going to happen on any board you post on. If you can't take someone trolling you the truth is you shouldn't be posting on a board like this. But there could be others that want to join a real discussion.

Just sitting back and complaining while doing nothing yourself doesn't change a thing.
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I think he stated clearly from the beginning that he attempted it before. That it went no where and I will conjecture, why be insane by doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result? Those that are gun loving blind will never give a shit about a solution. Other than more guns and prayers. Florida being a perfect example of 'gun freedoms'... yeah well we get yet another example of how that plays out.

There is no solution to gun blindness and there is no limit to how many school kids should get killed so that Tommy in bum fuck Opiate-ville can freedom shoot.
 
Face facts. Americans now completely accept random acts of mass gun violence as the price they must pay so that absolutely everyone (at least every white person), can own guns and carry them anywhere, any place, and at any time.

The kops murdered Philando Castile, a Black man, who had the right to carry a gun.
 
EVERY gun-owner is a potential school-yard slaughterer. Remove their weapons- from their ' cold dead hands ' if necessary. Let the kids live.
 
TTQ64 said:
Face facts. Americans now completely accept random acts of mass gun violence as the price they must pay so that absolutely everyone (at least every white person), can own guns and carry them anywhere, any place, and at any time.

The kops murdered Philando Castile, a Black man, who had the right to carry a gun.
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Face facts.
Black Americans now completely accept random acts of mass gun violence in Chicago and Detroit as the price they must pay so that absolutely everyone (at least every Black person), can own guns and carry them anywhere, any place, and at any time.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Nope, sorry.

I've tried to have this discussion and I got laughed at for the attempt.

Y-O-U believe guns are more important than human lives, Y-O-U can solve the problem.
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well to me there is no problem.

given that it is you that believes there is a problem, it is up to you to propose solutions.

I am fine with how things are.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And gun nuts won't lift a finger to try and stop it from happening again.
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When I was growing up just about ever guy I went to school with had a gun. Usually a hunting rifle or a shotgun, which were often left on the gun rack in their vehicles parked in the school parking lot. Yet at that time (late 70's) the incidents of mass shootings, particularly in schools, were very rare and far lower today.

So what's different between now and then? Gun ownership isn't. You have to be careful that you don't confuse the symptom with the disease. In other words easy access to guns isn't what is causing the problem.
 
crowonapost said:
I think he stated clearly from the beginning that he attempted it before. That it went no where and I will conjecture, why be insane by doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result? Those that are gun loving blind will never give a shit about a solution. Other than more guns and prayers. Florida being a perfect example of 'gun freedoms'... yeah well we get yet another example of how that plays out.

There is no solution to gun blindness and there is no limit to how many school kids should get killed so that Tommy in bum fuck Opiate-ville can freedom shoot.
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I was trying to be more diplomatic in the first post. I've posted with Zap for 15 years or more. We all come to boards like this for different reasons, to each his own. Getting involved in discussions on issues isn't his M.O. I saw the post he's talking about. He posted a couple of ideas and people responded as happens in a discussion. Because people didn't agree with him he's claiming they laughed at him or mocked him or whatever it was. No, that wasn't the case. And again, one shouldn't post here if they can't take disagreement.

There are a number of issues where it's hard to find agreement, guns definitely being one. But just because this board has people who are so strongly pro or anti it doesn't mean the rest of the country is.
 
We can also stop the media from having all these so called "experts" excusing white male murders in mass shooting as not being terrorist.

They are terrorist. PERIOD!
 
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