Many fewer U.S. gun owners

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If I wanted to see trite, hackneyed, illogical responses like these I could've read hundreds on gunlover blogs.

In fact, I have. It's not just great minds that think alike.
None of them could factually refute the survey either, so far.
USFreedom makes a good point, albeit a supposition. Unlike the circular arguments and transparent attempts at deflection the rest of you have tried, it has some plausibility.
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;811937 said:
Did I say that?

Somebody wanted to talk about high school shooting. What's the first thing that comes to mind?

Remind me again how you get to control what people post here.
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You're nothing but a sick fuck who will go to any lengths to try and make your stupidity some kind of truth.
He mentioned High School Shooting Team and you brought up two deranged individuals and then you try to say insinuate that they equate.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You're nothing but a sick fuck who will go to any lengths to try and make your stupidity some kind of truth.
He mentioned High School Shooting Team and you brought up two deranged individuals and then you try to say insinuate that they equate.
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WinterBorn said:
You make it sound as though this is a new thing. There have always been youth models of shotguns and rifles. That dates back to muzzleloaders and blackpowder firearms.

And it is only in the last decade or so that shooting was not part of growing up in this country. Dads took their sons hunting. Families hunted as a group. This is not a new thing, Topper.

What is new is that the sons didn't want to go. My sons didn't care for hunting. I'm glad that my daughter enjoys it.
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My first weapon was a .22 cal single bolt rifle, purchased from the local hardware store and given to me as a present, at the age of 12.
Used it to hut wild rabbits, around the farm, that mom cleaned, froze, and then used for meals.
That was over 40 years ago and I still haven't shot anyone.
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;812198 said:
License sales indicate that the number of young hunters in Kentucky is declining.

http://myhuntingandfishing.com/wanted-hunting-mentors-courier-journal-the-courier-journal/1662/

According to an article in the Savannah Morning News on January 31, 2008, “Hunting accidents spiked in Georgia during the 2007-08 season, and four of the five fatal incidents involved children or teenagers.

“This has been an unusual year,” said Wildlife Resources Division Capt. James Bell, who is the coordinator of the state’s Hunter Safety Program. “We’ve never had that many kids in accidents in the last 10 years.”

The season’s five casualties included an 8-year-old boy killed by a shotgun blast; a 12-year-old boy who shot and killed his father; a 14-year-old killed while squirrel hunting; and another 14-year-old shot and killed by his brother, who mistook him for a deer.

Authorities investigated 21 serious accidents during the 2007-08 season that included – in addition to the five fatal shootings – four non-fatal shootings and 12 tree stand accidents.

What pains us the most is the loss of young people in what is supposed to be a recreational activity.

Let's hope that this year, fewer young people end up on the wrong side of the hunting season in Georgia.

This issue brings renewed focus to the gun lobby’s agenda to encourage young people, notably boys, to start hunting.

The gun lobby and industry know full well that their numbers are in a consistent decline and are hurriedly trying to save their customer base. If young men and boys don’t take up hunting early in life, then the chances of them becoming gun owners later — and then potential NRA members, and of course donors — dramatically reduces.

The gun industry’s fear campaign to push handguns for “protection” among women has failed abysmally. Hence the gun lobby’s agenda to lower the hunting age in several states hoping to rescue their market. The gun industry and lobby’s thinking must be that kids taking up hunting might be a longterm investment.

There are many factors causing the decline of hunting in the United States. But one factor that can’t be ignored — as this article illustrates — are the constant stories in the news of accidental shootings among hunters, especially young people.

Thoughtful and protective parents have no doubt read and are aware of these hunting tragedies and have reconsidered if hunting is a good choice for their young ones.

Hunting is a tradition among some families in several parts of the country. But stories of hunting accidents have taken their toll and should make parents think twice about continuing the tradition.




http://www.gunguys.com/?p=2810
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What your article really showed, was that licenses are in the decline. This does not necessarily mean that hunting has declined.
 
WinterBorn said:
All that quote shows is that there is no one-to-one correlation. So there could be more firearms sold than background checks run. But the FFL dealer does not run background checks until they are ready to complete the sale.
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Let's not forget that AZ just passed a bill that doesn't require you to go through the Federal background check, if you're a resident of AZ and are buying a weapon manufactured in AZ.
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;812847 said:
So when you asked



You weren't asking where it was conducted?
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You are dancing again.
 
The April 2011 NSSF-adjusted National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) figure of 843,484 is an increase of 15.2 percent over the NSSF-adjusted NICS figure of 731,955 in April 2010.

For comparison, the unadjusted April 2011 NICS figure of 1,339,673 is an increase of 9.2 percent over the unadjusted NICS figure of 1,226,760 in April 2010. This marks the eleventh straight month-over-month increase in NSSF-adjusted NICS figures.
 
Topspin said:
obviously the gun jizzers never had statistics in college or any college.
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Yep, we did. That is why we question the parameters of the surveys. Those who slept thru statistics are the ones who swallow the conclusions without question.
 
thanks for the comedy, only on a gun nut thread have I EVER heard 1,500 called a tiny sample.

JIZZ ON GUN NUT!!!
 
Topspin said:
thanks for the comedy, only on a gun nut thread have I EVER heard 1,500 called a tiny sample.

JIZZ ON GUN NUT!!!
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1500 is not a particularly large sample for a national poll. But if you want to discuss the lack of education, why not talk about the inability to comprehend what the significant increase in NICS background checks mean.
 
WinterBorn said:
1500 is not a particularly large sample for a national poll. But if you want to discuss the lack of education, why not talk about the inability to comprehend what the significant increase in NICS background checks mean.
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Well, according to the FBI- the people who actually conduct the checks, so presumably they are more "educated" on the subject than you - "statistics represent the number of firearm background checks initiated through the NICS. They do not represent the number of firearms sold. Based on varying state laws and purchase scenarios, a one-to-one correlation cannot be made between a firearm background check and a firearm sale."

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/copy_of_TotalNICSBackgroundChecks.pdf

This fact has been pointed out to you numerous times in this thread, and apparently you forgot that. Have you seen a healthcare professional recently?
 
Gun ownership in the nation is at the lowest level ever recorded by the General Social Survey, according to an analysis issued Tuesday by the Violence Policy Center. The National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago has been surveying the American public on gun ownership since the early 1970s. Far from representing the mainstream sentiment of Americans, the NRA's gun-in-every-home-and-hollow mantra is resonating with fewer and fewer of us.

In most households, people choose not to own guns. In 2010, less than a third of households reported having a gun in the home. This is better than a 20-point drop from 1977, when 54 percent of households reported having guns. The drop in gun ownership came despite the millions of dollars the firearms industry gave the NRA to push looser gun restrictions across the nation. Rather than accept the limitations endorsed by the U.S. Supreme Court in its definition of the Second Amendment right, the NRA is pushing for the unfettered prerogative to carry a gun into just about any place a gun owner chooses, including schools, churches, workplaces, and bars.

LOL they have been doing the survey since the 70's and only 30% now own guns.

When you have nothing take a stab at sample size of 1,500
Hi fucking larious
 
The National Institute on Justice calls it the best survey on firearms.
The best available survey series on gun
ownership is the General Social Survey
(GSS), conducted by the National Opinion
Research Center. Its estimates have
been lower than some others, in the range
of 40 to 43 percent during the 1990s. In
particular, the GSS estimate for 1994 was
just 41 percent. Another telephone survey
in 1994 produced a still lower estimate
for gun ownership, 38 percent of
households.

Burn!!!
 
Using nationally representative data from a large interview survey by the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), RAND researchers examined the prevalence of firearms in U.S. homes with children under 18 years old and learned how those firearms are stored. [1]



Firearms Are Common in Homes with Children


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Thirty-four percent of children in the United States (representing more than 22 million children in 11 million homes) live in homes with at least one firearm. In 69 percent of homes with firearms and children, more than one firearm is present.
 
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