Mark of the Beast, or common sense?

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Don Quixote said:
funny, i do not think that firing pins are regulated yet, but they may be as ejector and firing pin marks can identify a gun that fires an ejected casing
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Keep wishing Don; because your desire to keep records on everything is just a pipe dream.
How you going to track a gun through private sales?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Keep wishing Don; because your desire to keep records on everything is just a pipe dream.
How you going to track a gun through private sales?
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the same way that the dmv keeps track of private sales, require that the person doing the selling send in a notice that the weapon no longer is owned by them

i do have mixed feeling about weapon registration though

i know that weapon registration is not the complete solution because it is too easy for criminals to get illegal weapons

the problem is the illegal use of weapons not the weapons themselves
 
G R I N D said:
there is a reason why the anti-gun people like this measure. They know what it means. They can't wipe the smug look off their face when they think of how awesome it will be to make gun owners have to pay more money for exercising their 2nd amendment right.
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Got a source for your assertion that "the anti-gun people like this measure", or are you you just making shit up like a panty-pissing fear-monger?
 
\\()// said:
Got a source for your assertion that "the anti-gun people like this measure", or are you you just making shit up like a panty-pissing fear-monger?
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Ahhh! There it is! The seemingly casual request for "sources" and "links". The last refuge of the politically ignorant, and a portrait of the leftist's genetic desire to legislate and control EVERYTHING, particularly things that THEY are afraid of! Want a "source"? Go buy a gun and then discuss the process with your neo-comm friends. Watch for the look on their faces when you tell them what a pain in the ass process it is(depending on where you live, of course).
 
Rune said:
A smart killer will collect his brass anyway. I suppose it is a good idea though, it could make police more accountable.
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Luckily we do not have very many smart killers. These crimes are often done in passion, unplanned, or by stupid people.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
And what occurs when the owner has changed the barrel and firing pin?
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The reality is most gun owners aren't doing anything of the sort. However, if this stuff is implemented the purchase of the barrel and firing pin would be noted. They could track it back to the place where it was purchased and track the receipt as before.

Everybody is all about how it can be circumvented by the bad guys, and I noted that. Bad guys will change the gun so that this won't be useful. Most murders, however, aren't done by those people however much people think they are. It will be useful to catch the regular schmo more quickly.

It won't be useful for gang killings, etc. or long-term planned killings, but neither of those are the bulk of murders in the US.
 
And if the serial number were filed off or otherwise hidden and the killer were found, it would become good evidence of pre-meditation for the shooting...! Why would you remove the serial number if you were not planning to illegally fire that weapon?
 
Onceler said:
That's a sad argument to oppose this measure.

I don't get why gun rights activists & the NRA oppose stuff like this. Honestly, it seems like they are pro-crime. This is a common sense measure that helps law enforcement, period. It is not an infringement on the 2nd amendment or a threat to any law-abiding gun owner.

It's the exact reason people see the NRA as extreme.
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well said, no infringement, might help clear, or arrest subjects, or provide leads in a investigation. can't find any flaws in this idea.
 
Damocles said:
The reality is most gun owners aren't doing anything of the sort. However, if this stuff is implemented the purchase of the barrel and firing pin would be noted. They could track it back to the place where it was purchased and track the receipt as before.

Everybody is all about how it can be circumvented by the bad guys, and I noted that. Bad guys will change the gun so that this won't be useful. Most murders, however, aren't done by those people however much people think they are. It will be useful to catch the regular schmo more quickly.

It won't be useful for gang killings, etc. or long-term planned killings, but neither of those are the bulk of murders in the US.
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This is an example of why Damocles is a respected debater, IMO.
 
callinectes said:
Ahhh! There it is! The seemingly casual request for "sources" and "links". The last refuge of the politically ignorant, and a portrait of the leftist's genetic desire to legislate and control EVERYTHING, particularly things that THEY are afraid of! Want a "source"? Go buy a gun and then discuss the process with your neo-comm friends. Watch for the look on their faces when you tell them what a pain in the ass process it is(depending on where you live, of course).
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Does your bloviating blather boil down to an admission that you made your claim up?
 
Don Quixote said:
the same way that the dmv keeps track of private sales, require that the person doing the selling send in a notice that the weapon no longer is owned by them

i do have mixed feeling about weapon registration though

i know that weapon registration is not the complete solution because it is too easy for criminals to get illegal weapons

the problem is the illegal use of weapons not the weapons themselves
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This is nothing more then a precurser to registration and we already know how that workec out in Kanada, the UK, and Australia.
 
Don Quixote said:
the same way that the dmv keeps track of private sales, require that the person doing the selling send in a notice that the weapon no longer is owned by them

i do have mixed feeling about weapon registration though

i know that weapon registration is not the complete solution because it is too easy for criminals to get illegal weapons

the problem is the illegal use of weapons not the weapons themselves
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registration leads to confiscation.
 
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