Martha's Vineyard merchant says there's a ‘process’ for coming to America, 'follow th

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Earl

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Published September 17, 2022 7:41pm EDT

Martha's Vineyard merchant says there's a ‘process’ for coming to America, 'follow that'

Rhode Island resident Paul Sinclair who does business in Martha's Vineyard said the island could have done more in response to the migrants' arrival from Florida
By Kerry J. Byrne | Fox News


Martha's Vineyard guests and residents share reaction to migrants on their island with Fox News Digital

Fox News Digital spoke to people on Martha's Vineyard on Saturday, Sept. 17, 2022, to get their thoughts about the presence of illegal migrants sent to their island this week.
NEWYou can now listen to Fox News articles!

OAK BLUFFS, Mass. – At least one person on this oasis of leftist elites blames federal officials for the illegal immigration crisis that thrust Martha’s Vineyard into the national spotlight.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis sent 50 migrants by plane Wednesday to the Massachusetts island, which boasts one of the wealthiest and most hard-left voting blocs in the nation.

"I think it was a political stunt," Paul Sinclair of Rhode Island told Fox News Digital on Saturday, as he sold T-shirts and surf gear during a street festival on Circuit Avenue in Oak Bluffs, one of the commercial hubs of Martha’s Vineyard.

MARTHA'S VINEYARD ‘RALLIES RELIEF EFFORT’ FOR MIGRANTS BY SHIPPING THEM TO CAPE COD MILITARY BASE

"But like any problem if you want to fix a problem make it visible. And I think (the problem) was made visible."

The phrase "political stunt" has been used on the island and elsewhere in leftist political circles to criticize DeSantis.
Paul Sinclair, a Martha's Vineyard vendor from Rhode Island, told Fox News Digital he hopes the arrival of 50 migrants on the resort island on Wednesday, Sept. 14, brings attention to the need to follow the legal immigration process."
https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/m...ays-theres-process-coming-america-follow-that
 
There is a process and it does not involve swimming across the Rio Grande river and entering illegally.

When the Republicans take Congress, illegals will be arrested and deported.

It is the law.
 
BartenderElite said:
I think I read that all of the migrants that were flown up to Martha's Vineyard entered legally.

Not true?
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Not true.

They came from Venezuela and crossed out borders illegally.

There is a process and a place to apply for citizenship and it isn’t in the middle of the Rio Grande River.
 
BartenderElite said:
My understanding is that they came in legally.
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Your understanding is wrong.

They came from Venezuela and crossed out borders illegally.

There is a process and a place to apply for citizenship and it isn’t in the middle of the Rio Grande River.
 
Earl said:
Not true.

They came from Venezuela and crossed out borders illegally.

There is a process and a place to apply for citizenship and it isn’t in the middle of the Rio Grande River.
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They presented themselves to border officials and requested asylum/refugee status. They were given a date to appear at a hearing to determine if they are eligible for that status. Some are detained in facilities and others are allowed to enter the country. Most have a sponsor and go to that location until their hearing. A majority appear for their hearing. If not, they are deported.

To correct this situation we need to change the laws on asylum/refugees. There is no "open border." 20,000 border patrol agents with their electronic surveillance equipment continue to police the border as they always have. The increased number refers to "apprehensions." The peak was in 2019 and then a reduction during the pandemic and an increase in 2021-22.
 
BartenderElite said:
My understanding is that they came in legally.
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No, they didn't. They entered illegally, and under Biden he ignored that and let them apply for asylum anyway. There likely was little or no screening of them outside that, and they likely were simply moved to Florida without any processing beyond a piece of paper asking them to appear at an immigration court sometime in the future. In any case, they are in the country illegally and awaiting trial for that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, they didn't. They entered illegally, and under Biden he ignored that and let them apply for asylum anyway. There likely was little or no screening of them outside that, and they likely were simply moved to Florida without any processing beyond a piece of paper asking them to appear at an immigration court sometime in the future. In any case, they are in the country illegally and awaiting trial for that.
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Awaiting trial for what? If they are in the country illegally they can be deported. If they applied for asylum they are waiting their hearing. There is no trial for being in the country illegally.

When you present yourself to the border patrol and request asylum that is the proper procedure.
 
Flash said:
They presented themselves to border officials and requested asylum/refugee status. They were given a date to appear at a hearing to determine if they are eligible for that status. Some are detained in facilities and others are allowed to enter the country. Most have a sponsor and go to that location until their hearing. A majority appear for their hearing. If not, they are deported.

To correct this situation we need to change the laws on asylum/refugees. There is no "open border." 20,000 border patrol agents with their electronic surveillance equipment continue to police the border as they always have. The increased number refers to "apprehensions." The peak was in 2019 and then a reduction during the pandemic and an increase in 2021-22.
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Post a link showing that presented themselves to border officials.

Most of the illegals cross illegally and then ask for asylum.

There are 2+million more illegals in America since Biden took office.

The borders are wide open.
 
BartenderElite said:
My understanding is that they came in legally.
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Did all of them follow that process?







Is this the legal way?

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https://sports.yahoo.com/tens-thousands-brazilians-venezuelans-illegally-110000655.html
 
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Earl said:
Post a link showing that presented themselves to border officials.

Most of the illegals cross illegally and then ask for asylum.

There are 2+million more illegals in America since Biden took office.

The borders are wide open.
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What border enforcement has been reduced or stopped to make them more "open" than under Bush, Obama, or Trump?
 
Earl said:
Published September 17, 2022 7:41pm EDT

Martha's Vineyard merchant says there's a ‘process’ for coming to America, 'follow that'

Rhode Island resident Paul Sinclair who does business in Martha's Vineyard said the island could have done more in response to the migrants' arrival from Florida
By Kerry J. Byrne | Fox News


Martha's Vineyard guests and residents share reaction to migrants on their island with Fox News Digital

Fox News Digital spoke to people on Martha's Vineyard on Saturday, Sept. 17, 2022, to get their thoughts about the presence of illegal migrants sent to their island this week.
NEWYou can now listen to Fox News articles!

OAK BLUFFS, Mass. – At least one person on this oasis of leftist elites blames federal officials for the illegal immigration crisis that thrust Martha’s Vineyard into the national spotlight.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis sent 50 migrants by plane Wednesday to the Massachusetts island, which boasts one of the wealthiest and most hard-left voting blocs in the nation.

"I think it was a political stunt," Paul Sinclair of Rhode Island told Fox News Digital on Saturday, as he sold T-shirts and surf gear during a street festival on Circuit Avenue in Oak Bluffs, one of the commercial hubs of Martha’s Vineyard.

MARTHA'S VINEYARD ‘RALLIES RELIEF EFFORT’ FOR MIGRANTS BY SHIPPING THEM TO CAPE COD MILITARY BASE

"But like any problem if you want to fix a problem make it visible. And I think (the problem) was made visible."

The phrase "political stunt" has been used on the island and elsewhere in leftist political circles to criticize DeSantis.
Paul Sinclair, a Martha's Vineyard vendor from Rhode Island, told Fox News Digital he hopes the arrival of 50 migrants on the resort island on Wednesday, Sept. 14, brings attention to the need to follow the legal immigration process."
https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/m...ays-theres-process-coming-america-follow-that
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They are such morons. If Biden were enforcing our laws and following that process, we wouldn't have over 2 million illegals wandering about the countryside. :palm:
 
Earl said:
There is a process and it does not involve swimming across the Rio Grande river and entering illegally.

When the Republicans take Congress, illegals will be arrested and deported.

It is the law.
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They really are the dumbest people on the planet, as exemplified by their President and his VP. :laugh:
 
Flash said:
They presented themselves to border officials and requested asylum/refugee status. They were given a date to appear at a hearing to determine if they are eligible for that status. Some are detained in facilities and others are allowed to enter the country. Most have a sponsor and go to that location until their hearing. A majority appear for their hearing. If not, they are deported.

To correct this situation we need to change the laws on asylum/refugees. There is no "open border." 20,000 border patrol agents with their electronic surveillance equipment continue to police the border as they always have. The increased number refers to "apprehensions." The peak was in 2019 and then a reduction during the pandemic and an increase in 2021-22.
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WRONG and stupid. They did not "present" themselves at a LEGAL border crossing. They crossed ILLEGALLY dipshit. I am amused that dipshits like you think your smart. Irony.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, they didn't. They entered illegally, and under Biden he ignored that and let them apply for asylum anyway. There likely was little or no screening of them outside that, and they likely were simply moved to Florida without any processing beyond a piece of paper asking them to appear at an immigration court sometime in the future. In any case, they are in the country illegally and awaiting trial for that.
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:thumbsup:
 
Flash said:
Awaiting trial for what? If they are in the country illegally they can be deported. If they applied for asylum they are waiting their hearing. There is no trial for being in the country illegally.

When you present yourself to the border patrol and request asylum that is the proper procedure.
Click to expand...

:eyeroll:
 
Earl said:
Post a link showing that presented themselves to border officials.

Most of the illegals cross illegally and then ask for asylum.

There are 2+million more illegals in America since Biden took office.

The borders are wide open.
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Correction; 2 million so far this fiscal year. And we still have two weeks to go.
 
Flash said:
What border enforcement has been reduced or stopped to make them more "open" than under Bush, Obama, or Trump?
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Just stop, you dumb hack.

Border Patrol agents have encountered a record number of 1,853,837 migrants since October, according to internal U.S. Customs and Border Protection data exclusively obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation.

The illegal border crossings, which occurred between Oct. 1, 2021, and Aug. 6 2022, already exceed the 1,662,422 Border Patrol encountered in fiscal year 2021, which was already a record high for the force, according to the internal data.

In May 2019, nearly 150,000 people illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border were apprehended by U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Last month, that number had been reduced to about 30,000. Who should get the credit?
 
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