Yakuda
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It's amazing how stupid you are.
Maybe when everybody has....
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It's amazing how stupid you are.
Correct. This is another fact that the dumb fucks like Yakuda don't understand. The ER has no responsibility other than stabilizing you. Show up with a sore throat, and they will send you home. They will make no attempt to determine the cause.
A one time wealth tax on the richest .1 percent would raise enough money to pay for many of those things. But God forbid we take ANY money from billionaires. Let's investigate Hunter Biden and the 1/6 committee instead.
Yakuda
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Lets! I love agreement.
I do like though how you think one injustice means we shouldn't look at other injustices.
According to the results, they do. https://www.citizen.org/article/dea...o-rank-behind-other-industrialized-countries/ Our system sucks but is highly profitable.
We have the worst outcomes of any industrialized nation. The all have single payer. Our healthcare system is third world. Medicare for all makes the most sense. If you want to add on coverage you can.
T. A. Gardner
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My view is the government has to run some things, but the government doesn't do a "better" job of it. It just happens that government has to do that particular job and we have to live with the inept and inefficient system that results.
T. A. Gardner
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Maybe you should read the actual study rather than just post the results. The Commonwealth Fund uses the same idiotic metrics many other surveys on health care systems do. Most of those metrics don't measure the effectiveness and quality of them.
This study's metrics of Access, Equity, and Efficiency (measured in terms of spending to GDP) all have virtually nothing to do with the quality of health care outcomes. When they looked at the one thing in their study that was clearly about outcomes, Quality the US ranked, by them between third and fifth.
In other words, the US health care system is one of the best in the world, but it's also expensive, and not always equitable.
That is your opinion...and the strong opinion of so many American conservatives. That is why you people ought to stay the hell out of government. You have absolutely no talent at governance.
My opinion is that government is "We, the people." We do as good a job when working a government job as we do when working a private sector job. Confident, intelligent, ethical people working in government are productive...just as confident, intelligent, ethical people are productive in the private sector.
T. A. Gardner
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I've worked in those government bureaucracies, and that's what they are. Of late, the ESG stuff--and it's been there in varying degree since at least the late 80's--has put more and more incompetence, and emphasis on political and social outcomes than doing a good job.
Trying to do a good job becomes nearly impossible in some cases simply because the system and rules are against you. So, while you do have individuals in government that want to do a good job, the system fights them in many cases. Worse, with hiring based more and more on race, gender, sex, etc., rather than competence, you often have managers and workers who are literally so stupid and incompetent they can't do their job and drag down those around them. In fact, when you are faced with that situation, you quickly realize that you need to spend your time doing CYA rather than your job because without covering your ass, you are a target for firing, disciplinary action, etc., regardless of how well you actually do your work. A bad manager in government can, and will, destroy your career to save theirs. E-mail is a true blessing in those situations. You get the manager to put their stupidity in writing on E-mail and save it along with a print copy. That way when the shit storm starts you have a paper trail they don't have and you walk away unharmed.
"you can lead a horse to water....."
I also worked at one point for the federal government in the Social Security Administration. It was my experience that the competency there was no different from the private sector...some good, some bad.
Let's just agree to disagree on this. Given the opportunity to vote on the issue...I would vote for a federal run medical insurance plan over what we have now in a New York second. I would vote for it willingly and enthusiastically...and I would get as many others to do so also.
My guess is Yakuda has that good Single Payer government coverage(Medicare), and does not really care about everyone else.
So you trust corporations over the govt. This is what they accomplished. https://healthsystemsfacts.org/?gcl...ggOPiTNSZMgHueWlzk6-TAg1Uoe_QJ9AaAuZ5EALw_wcB
I took my wife into an emergency hospital. I overheard a discussion with doctors and a woman in the next curtain. They were informing her that her insurance did not get service there and they had people on the phone trying to find a hospital that would treat her. I thought they had to stabilize her, but they didn't.
Geeko Sportivo
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My guess is Yakuda has a sharp stick up his ass, and that T.A. Gardner has not reached the age yet where he has had a serious and expensive medical challenge to have to deal with yet in his life!
I hope your wife got the help she needed, but this is America so I cannot be sure she did.
In most developed countries, if there is a medical problem, they try to solve the medical problem. In America, they must first find if there is insurance, and if that insurance covers solving the medical problem. If you are found unconscious, and without ID on the streets of almost any developed country, they treat your medical problem. In America, you are in real trouble.
Stone is in his late 50's, and his older brothers are still having to take care of his medical expenses.
These people are either lucky that someone else is taking care of them, or lucky that they have not needed major medical expenses. As you enter your 40's and 50's, you tend to start needing preventative care even if you are lucky. You can still live into your 90's without it, but the odds are not great.
Geeko Sportivo
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You would think that everybody would be on the same page, regarding Healthcare and Healthcare insurance. First of all, Healthcare in the United States and even Healthcare insurance is more expensive than any other country in the world.
Here is my beef- My local Real Estate Taxes includes a Hospital tax that is about half of my overall Real Estate Tax. Just the hospital tax alone costs over $4,000 a year.
OK, it used to, before I reached the age where I get a huge break due to my homesteading the property. BUT, for most other people that live in the County and under 66 years of age are paying real estate taxes out their ass.
The idea of a National Healthcare system was to get everyone insured so that No. one- it would be affordable to everyone who needed it, and number two, everyone would qualify, and number 3- Bring down the Hospital tax. Because our county hospital just bills the fees for anyone who can't pay their bill back to the county.
Barriers to health care facing long-term resident non-citizens affect every Texan. The hospitals, clinics, and other health care systems we all share, rely on, and finance through our taxes and insurance premiums can only be effective if they address the health needs of all Texans, from controlling communicable diseases to prenatal care and trauma care. Millions of U.S. citizen Texans are uninsured (the highest uninsured number and rate in the U.S.), and our state’s large immigrant population faces all the same barriers to care as U.S. citizens, plus an additional complex list of exclusions. The effects reach far beyond any
individual immigrant. One-third of Texas children have a foreign-born parent, and foreign-born workers and small employers in Texas make hefty contributions to our state economy (see: Immigrants Drive the Texas Economy: Economic Benefits of Immigrants to Texas). When individual immigrants are disenfranchised from access to health care it can affect whole families, and the health and prosperity of the communities in which they live, work, study and worship. Like any other uninsured Texan, immigrants who delay getting care too often end up needing costly emergency care on the local taxpayer’s tab.
One in nine Texas residents is not a U.S. citizen. Census surveys don’t record which of those 2.9 million non-citizen residents are here lawfully, but the best
estimates are that 60 percent or more lack legal status. Of the 5 million uninsured Texans in 2014, about 1.6 million were non-U.S. citizens. Non-citizens—even those who are lawfully present—are not eligible for public health insurance on the same terms as U.S. citizens, and options for undocumented residents are especially limited. The 2014 roll out of the Affordable Care Act’s (ACA) new private and public health coverage options brought new rules and pportunities for non-US citizens. But the law also had unintended consequences, and barriers to care for immigrants remain significant— especially here in Texas. Undocumented residents are excluded from all formal public insurance programs (except for payment of some emergency services in Medicaid), and legal residents face significant technological and legal barriers related to both public coverage and private insurance in the new Marketplace established by the ACA.