MBL: Pokerhand.

Grind said:
'03 :)

But yeah thinking it over I still think I would lay it down, I don't have regrets.
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I saw a hand where Cloutier and Brunson were playing against a couple of no-names and Andy Bloch. Brunson had pocket kings and an ace came down on the flop. The no-name bet big, Brunson mucked and Bloch and Cloutier were already out of the hand (if I remember correctly). Someone speculates that Brunson had the KK, and Bloch immediately announces that "there's no way Brunson lays down pocket kings there".

Cloutier comes right back and says " If he thinks he's beat, he lays down pocket Kings. Of Course". And Cloutier and Brunson were right. Its the lesson against falling in love with the hand. Bloch couldn't fathom it, even after MIT and the Blackjack thing, but the old timers were right. They were right because they brought it back to the fundamentals. If you truly think you're beat, then you should fold.

You're not going to be right every time, but the beauty of it is that opponents only tend to remember the times you were wrong. So if you're right more than wrong, you earn a living. If its the other way around, then you're in the wrong game.
 
Beefy said:
I saw a hand where Cloutier and Brunson were playing against a couple of no-names and Andy Bloch. Brunson had pocket kings and an ace came down on the flop. The no-name bet big, Brunson mucked and Bloch and Cloutier were already out of the hand (if I remember correctly). Someone speculates that Brunson had the KK, and Bloch immediately announces that "there's no way Brunson lays down pocket kings there".

Cloutier comes right back and says " If he thinks he's beat, he lays down pocket Kings. Of Course". And Cloutier and Brunson were right. Its the lesson against falling in love with the hand. Bloch couldn't fathom it, even after MIT and the Blackjack thing, but the old timers were right. They were right because they brought it back to the fundamentals. If you truly think you're beat, then you should fold.

You're not going to be right every time, but the beauty of it is that opponents only tend to remember the times you were wrong. So if you're right more than wrong, you earn a living. If its the other way around, then you're in the wrong game.
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I remembered it wrong, but the point is the same.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyZdGTVAalE&feature=related
 
Grind said:
suuuup... just got back from my weekly job... cashed 3 out of 4.
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Good deal. The most unholy, antichrist thing about living here is that ther's NO gambling anywhere.

Did you watch the video? It's an important one.
 
I noticed you brought up the M factor earlier. I think that Harrington and Magril (sp?) are applying this to other players of their caliber. But what you and I play, (I play $100 buy in cash games at the casinos primarily) doesn't take those factors into account.

In other words, you and I a primarily playing against idiots. When that's the case, it comes down to reads instead of odds or factors.
 
I disagree mbl... when you are less than 10 bb it doesn't matter who you are playing mostly.... you need to shove or fold.

I was confused why you brought up a random quote from me in this thread though.
 
Grind said:
I disagree mbl... when you are less than 10 bb it doesn't matter who you are playing mostly.... you need to shove or fold.

I was confused why you brought up a random quote from me in this thread though.
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Yeah, it is a little different in tourney play.
 
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