Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
My 1st Obligation will always be to do the right.
That's a hymn.
Like I said, we are not the same.
Men, are you willing to risk what Daniel Penny endured to protect women & children?
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That's a hymn.
Like I said, we are not the same.
Diogenes
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Like I said, you go your way, I'll go mine. My first obligation will always be to my own. That's not gonna change. I have responsibilities. I won't risk endangering the future of my own for strangers.
T. A. Gardner
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Except what I described happens here at least several times a year. You barely hear anything about self-defense cases. Something like Penny's in Phoenix would be minor news after the break for commercials on TV, or barely a story buried in the newspaper sites like AZCentral. One or another columnist might whine about it to nobody caring.
T. A. Gardner
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They can try, but they get little traction here. You won't see the sort of large radical Leftist protests even on university campuses here. Instead, they are miniscule and largely ignored.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
Meh, i roll with what comes along.
I don't have a whole herd to be responsible for, though.
Diogenes
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Sorry, I don't believe that's realistic. The left's commitment to a culture of continual grievance is too strong and the access to global distribution by anyone with a cell phone and a social media account is just to powerful in today's social media world.
I see over and over on X scenes of people being abused on the streets with lots of people around who dont do anything other than maybe film. I also remember seeing on YouTube a young French woman (hot) living in Moscow saying that in France she feels like she is walking the streets alone and in danger, but that what happens in France does not happen in Russia, she feels totally safe because she is sure that if there was any problem with her security strangers would come to her aid.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
That's nice, Comrade.
Diogenes
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Where's this oasis from the world known as "here", where supposedly nobody finds out about alleged "racial killings"?
I'm pretty sure people in Red China know about the George Floyd case.
The killing of Matthew Shepard happened in the middle of nowhere. The left still beats that drum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard
Anti-Truth.
T. A. Gardner
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Here's some examples of what I mean:
Just 5 sentences devoted to a homeowner shooting and killing an intruder, with the story buried in the news.
Another one where it was one and done in the news.
Here's one about a similar incident to Penny's on the Phoenix light rail system.
This one is a shooting on the light rail system.
It just doesn't stoke outrage here because self-defense and carrying a weapon are pretty much allowed anywhere and everywhere.
An armed society is a polite society.
Bond lowered for alleged assailant in attack on ASU classmate
The alleged attack happened Sept. 19 in an ASU West classroom.
www.azcentral.com
Phoenix homeowner fatally shoots man breaking into home, police say
A man who broke into a home near 17th Avenue and Coolidge Street in Phoenix was shot and killed by the homeowner, Phoenix police say.
www.azcentral.com
Just 5 sentences devoted to a homeowner shooting and killing an intruder, with the story buried in the news.
Police: South Phoenix homeowner fatally shoots intruder
On Sunday, a south Phoenix homeowner shot and killed a trespasser following a confrontation.
www.azcentral.com
Another one where it was one and done in the news.
Here's one about a similar incident to Penny's on the Phoenix light rail system.
Phoenix man arrested in connection with assault on light rail train
Phoenix police find and arrest 25-year-old Jacob Jasmer, who they believe assaulted a light rail passenger with a hammer on Oct. 14.
www.azcentral.com
This one is a shooting on the light rail system.
Man arrested after light rail shooting in downtown Phoenix
A 25-year-old man has been arrested following a shooting on a light rail train in downtown Phoenix that left one injured.
www.azcentral.com
It just doesn't stoke outrage here because self-defense and carrying a weapon are pretty much allowed anywhere and everywhere.
An armed society is a polite society.
T. A. Gardner
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See my above post.
Diogenes
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Here's some examples of what I mean:
Bond lowered for alleged assailant in attack on ASU classmate
The alleged attack happened Sept. 19 in an ASU West classroom.www.azcentral.com
Phoenix homeowner fatally shoots man breaking into home, police say
A man who broke into a home near 17th Avenue and Coolidge Street in Phoenix was shot and killed by the homeowner, Phoenix police say.www.azcentral.com
Just 5 sentences devoted to a homeowner shooting and killing an intruder, with the story buried in the news.
Police: South Phoenix homeowner fatally shoots intruder
On Sunday, a south Phoenix homeowner shot and killed a trespasser following a confrontation.www.azcentral.com
Another one where it was one and done in the news.
Here's one about a similar incident to Penny's on the Phoenix light rail system.
Phoenix man arrested in connection with assault on light rail train
Phoenix police find and arrest 25-year-old Jacob Jasmer, who they believe assaulted a light rail passenger with a hammer on Oct. 14.www.azcentral.com
This one is a shooting on the light rail system.
Man arrested after light rail shooting in downtown Phoenix
A 25-year-old man has been arrested following a shooting on a light rail train in downtown Phoenix that left one injured.www.azcentral.com
It just doesn't stoke outrage here because self-defense and carrying a weapon are pretty much allowed anywhere and everywhere.
An armed society is a polite society.
I'm not sure you understood the factors that make a story take off.
The racial angle is the main one.
T. A. Gardner
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Some of those involve various racial groups. One I looked at was a white man breaking into a Navajo home. Same thing. White dude got shot nothing more to it.
The story above about the shooting on the light rail involved a white and a person of Middle Eastern ethnicity. No big deal here. Hispanic? Same as White here. Blacks aren't nearly as numerous so that issue is far less of one here.
T. A. Gardner
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You are probably unaware this one even happened. White, elderly, man shoots illegal immigrant on his ranch. Happened in the most Progressive part of Arizona. They failed to get a conviction.
Prosecutors couldn't even get witnesses to testify against him.
The case is forgotten now.
Jurors to decide fate of Nogales rancher accused of killing migrant on his land
Illegal immigration continues to be a flashpoint in national politics, and the trial of George Alan Kelly has gained national attention.
www.azcentral.com
Prosecutors couldn't even get witnesses to testify against him.
The case is forgotten now.
Diogenes
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Then your examples don't seem representative of what we're discussing.
White man kills white man - meh.
Brown man kills brown man - meh.
Yellow man kills yellow man - meh.
Black man kills black man - meh.
Red man kills red man - meh.
White man kills any of the above, especially a black man...
Diogenes
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You are probably unaware this one even happened. White, elderly, man shoots illegal immigrant on his ranch. Happened in the most Progressive part of Arizona. They failed to get a conviction.
Jurors to decide fate of Nogales rancher accused of killing migrant on his land
Illegal immigration continues to be a flashpoint in national politics, and the trial of George Alan Kelly has gained national attention.www.azcentral.com
Prosecutors couldn't even get witnesses to testify against him.
The case is forgotten now
Your own link says that the case gained national attention.
T. A. Gardner
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And, when it ended, the guy went back into obscurity. The MSM dropped the story when it became clear he was going to walk and not be convicted.
Diogenes
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So I read.
You think that's a realistic expectation in every case, as long as it's in Arizona?
Fine.
I wouldn't count on it, personally.
Did Mr. Kelly find himself in any civil actions later?
T. A. Gardner
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Pretty much. No, once the criminal case ended, that ended everything.