Minimum wage rate and labors’ market prices.

Truth Detector said:
That is a lie; you can't find ONE credible claim that supports that assertion. The ONLY thing arbitrary Government minimum wage laws do are increase inflationary pressures resulting in no real benefit for those who are getting minimum wage.

The other LIE regarding the minimum wage is that these are not individuals who are supporting families. Most are illegals who cannot speak English, students and part time adults supplementing their main income and who have no real job skills.



Priceless; the GOVERNMENT Congresses budget office reporting on the GOVERNMENT Congressional policies in order to get uneducated voters to vote for them in the false belief that they are benefiting. :rofl2:

Clue for you; ALL Congressional budget office reports and estimates are wrong. They've never gotten anything right.



Another BULLSHIT claim that cannot be supported by any credible sources.

Again, it is not the Governments job to mandate ANYTHING on the private market. The best way to make make more money is by learning skill that is in demand or getting a higher education.
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nobody ever had poverty made less brutal by minimum wage?

what are you complaining about then?
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
We should be proud enough of American workers to set a better wage standard for them.
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Arbitrary increases in the minimum wage will do NOTHING to raise their standards. There is ZERO evidence to that occurring as evidenced by the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938. 82 years of this nonsense and idiots on the left still argue that it works. That is the definition of retarded.

Geeko Sportivo said:
If we aren't proud enough of our US workers- then what is the point of all this Bring Jobs Back Home- and MADE IN THE USA- and UNION SUCKS BULLSHIT ALL ABOUT? HUH?
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This is a moronic strawman argument. It has nothing to do with pride shit-for-brains. :palm:

Geeko Sportivo said:
I don't think you can play it both ways.
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Then STOP doing it dumbass. You sound like Biden; DUMB. :palm:

Geeko Sportivo said:
BASED ON RUNAWA,Y INFLATION, the minimum wage standard should be over $20 Bucks and hour- If not $25.00 an hour.
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More dumb strawmen. We don't have runaway inflation and a minimum wage of $20 bucks would lead to more low skill workers being out of work. Why do liberals hate low wage workers?

Let's take this moronic argument to its logical conclusion; why stop at $20 an hour? Who can live in New York, San Fran or Los Angeles on $20 an hour? That is only $41,600 annually and after taxes, around $35,360.

Geeko Sportivo said:
YOU CAN'T PAY THAT? YOU SHOULD BE RAN OUT OF BUSINESS FOR FOSTERING POVERTY!
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This from a low IQ, unaccomplished moron who has never run a business. You really should STFU; we already know you're a whiny, uneducated know-nothing. NO need to prove it every damned day. :palm:
 
Michael_Panetta said:
Here's an idea. Have overtime pay begin at 35 hours instead of 40 hours.
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That is as stupid as arbitrary Government mandated minimum wage laws. You should go back to school and at least finish high school. Although, I doubt that will help as they don't educate much anymore you being the best evidence of that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Why is that "fascism?" That is an economic choice in a Socialist society. If you can make more on welfare, why work? If your taxes go up and you lose benefits because your wage increased, you forego a pay raise to maintain them. Some people work to certain levels of income deliberately like that to avoid losing social security benefits, or Earned Income Credits. It used to be that some on welfare would have children just to increase the payments they were getting while neglecting the kids.

Other people work "under the table" to avoid taxes or reported income.

None of that is solely an American issue. That happens everywhere.

In Italy they cracked down on "tax cheats" like the plumber driving a Ferrari who was making six figures easily...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/plumb...l-to-reformers-plan-to-rescue-italian-economy

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-01-12/italy-poor-drive-ferraris

https://www.thelocal.it/20160301/italy-announces-record-haul-from-crackdown-on-tax-fraud

Cheating on your taxes is a European pass time. Everybody does it there because taxes are high enough that it is worth cheating to the maximum extent possible.

Minimum wage hikes don't fix the problem of low wage earners. More skills, better education, and more training do. But even then, there's always going to be the bottom end of the bell curve that end up unable to get more than low paying, low skill or unskilled jobs simply because they can't do more.
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:thumsbup:
 
AssHatZombie said:
who and how?

if wages surpass minimum wages naturally as fascists claim there's nothing to worry about.
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I see this post as evidence you don't have the slightest clue of what you are bloviating about and have ZERO proof to back it up.

You look no different than the lying leftist loons of this of forum now snowflake.
 
AssHatZombie said:
the fact is that is that the magic of unfettered capitalism didn't create th middle class, it was the labor movement attenuation of capitalism that did.

you're ignoring history.
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Two points; we have never had unfettered capitalism in 100 years. Also, without unfettered capitalism there would be no middle class. There would be no jobs. I suggest you do some research and become better informed.
 
AssHatZombie said:
are you claiming they haven't?
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I am asking you to PROVE your claim snowflake. I have already indicated my view as they have not. I can prove it. But I am waiting for your profound evidence to the contrary so I can mop the floor with your head.

I'll understand if you continue deflecting and avoiding the question.
 
Truth Detector said:
I see this post as evidence you don't have the slightest clue of what you are bloviating about and have ZERO proof to back it up.

You look no different than the lying leftist loons of this of forum now snowflake.
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if the "free market" wages always surpass minimum wage, what are you worried about?
 
AssHatZombie said:
if the "free market" wages always surpass minimum wage, what are you worried about?
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How am I worried? Strawman much?

I am responding to the lie that arbitrary minimum wage laws help low skilled workers pay their bills but rather, do nothing but cause inflationary pressure on markets and merely supplant low skilled workers with higher skilled workers.

Why are you so desperate to deflect and avoid supporting your claims with credible facts?
 
these neocons believe nothing should ever interfere with anything corporations want to do ever.

they're insane fascists who also believe in monololies and cartels.

I know them well, I used to be one.
 
Truth Detector said:
How am I worried? Strawman much?

I am responding to the lie that arbitrary minimum wage laws help low skilled workers pay their bills but rather, do nothing but cause inflationary pressure on markets and merely supplant low skilled workers with higher skilled workers.

Why are you so desperate to deflect and avoid supporting your claims with credible facts?
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deflect much?
 
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