Minnesota Fraud

tigerred59 said:
Its a mess because liberals always take a hands off approach when it comes to immigrants, legal or illegal and I don't understand it. They toss out loans and grants like Halloween treats. They throw in welfare assistance with no oversight or interest, but will in fact, GIVE THOSE BORN IN THIS COUNTRY PURE HELL WHEN IT COMES TO TRYING TO GET INTO THESE PROGRAMS??
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I refuse to respond to posts that are invisible.
 
Matt Dillon said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2007806334507569187
View: https://x.com/MatrixMysteries/status/2007806334507569187?s=20
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Two things, when I got let go with my last job of 25 years, I had to apply for healthcare....I was a few years short of Medicare, so I had to apply for Medicaid....the paper work alone nearly drove me insane. You had to provide everything necessary for this benefit, short of your blood type, it was a fuckin nightmare. Then when I applied for a job at this Nursing Home, they wanted everything, including proof of being a US Citizen....my point is this, how these immigrants are given special provisions and status to get all the federal programs at their will, just angers me to no end. Last year, I had to pay upwards of 30 dollars just to FAX papers to apply for help in paying my medicare parts B and C and was turned down because I made a few bucks over the poverty levels for my state. What little money I have left......it just ain't fair and its not right, not right at all.
 
Matt Dillon said:
So your link is Reddit, ya retard?
If you're gonna go that route, you'll get more reliable info from the neckbeards at 4Chan.
They have actually sussed out some stuff at 4Chan.
Just don't ever tell them you think some girl is hot. Trust me on that one. :D
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:rolleyes: You seriously need to lay off the sauce before you start typing, Matty.
Now, can you logically or factually refute or disprove ONE item in the link? See, I will give credit when credit is due regardless of the source .... whether I genuinely agree with that source or not. Folk of your mindset have yet to do that. You should try.
 
Lionfish said:
Minnesota’s Fraud Problem Isn’t Immigrants NOT TRUE THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT TO BE CRIMINALS AND EEXPECT EVERYTHING FOR FREE.
It’s the vast size of the welfare state that corrupts them.

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Wall Street Journal, By The Editorial BoJan. 2, 2026 5:29 pm ET

Republicans are having a field day with Minnesota’s welfare fraud, and understandably so. But while Gov. Tim Walz and Somali migrants may be easy political targets, the GOP will let this scandal go to waste if it fails to explain how vast government welfare payments have become an invitation for fraud and abuse.

The Trump Health and Human Services Department Tuesday said it is suspending federal child-care payments to Minnesota after a social-media personality claimed day-care centers run by Somali residents committed up to $100 million in fraud. That assertion hasn’t been corroborated, and over-egging fraud claims won’t help reform.

But Minnesota’s varieties of government fraud are prompting welcome scrutiny of its welfare system. Visitors to the state government website could mistake it for an internet scam because it advertises so many handouts—cash, housing support, child care, food, emergency assistance and more. These are on top of federal transfer payments.

Herewith a partial menu of what Minnesota residents can get from the state:

• Cash payments. Minnesota offers a “working families” tax credit of up to $3,089 a year, which operates similar to the federal earned income tax credit (maximum of $8,046). Both credits phase out as incomes rise. Minnesotans can also claim a $1,750 refundable tax credit for each child, on top of the $2,200 federal credit. That’s $4,000 per kid.

Low-income Minnesotans can also qualify for a preloaded debit card to pay for incidental expenses. A single unemployed parent with two children can get $1,189 a month in additional cash payments. Minnesotans who work can get more cash, but the work incentive is undermined by the state’s other payments that phase out as paychecks grow.

The state also operates a cash-grant program for low-income families who face evictions, utility shutoffs or other “household emergencies.” Forgot to pay rent or the gas bill? The state has you covered.

Once upon a time, the safety net was intended to help the disabled and sick who can’t support themselves—not for those who choose not to work, which is what it has become. Two distinct Social Security programs support people with disabilities (which can include depression and ADHD) and those with disabled children, though these have also been abused.

• Healthcare. Minnesota was a pioneer in using federal Medicaid dollars to pay for other forms of social assistance such as housing, which is the locus of several fraud schemes. Two dozen states, including many run by Republicans, now tap Medicaid to pay nonprofits to provide housing “support” for the homeless or addicts.

Minnesota also operates a quasi-public health insurance option funded by ObamaCare subsidies. Rather than directly subsidize insurers, the feds send money to the state to manage its public option. Private insurers have a financial incentive to police fraud by providers. Government not so much.

• Food. The U.S. Department of Agriculture operates 16 “nutrition assistance programs,” with the biggest being SNAP, aka food stamps. About 41.6 million Americans, including 450,000 Minnesotans, receive food stamps averaging $186 a month. Because many states have eased eligibility verifications, people often receive more than they’re entitled to. The nationwide overpayment rate in 2024 was 9.3%, though somewhat lower in Minnesota (6.3%).

Minnesota is also one of nine or so states that provide free breakfasts and lunches to all students no matter their family income. In the pandemic Minnesota paid nonprofits to feed children. Much of this school lunch money was stolen, say federal indictments.

• Housing. The Department of Housing and Urban Development doles out some $60 billion each year to states and localities to subsidize rent for low-income households. In Minneapolis, low-income folks can receive $1,257 a month to rent a one-bedroom apartment. Rent subsidies phase out as incomes rise.

• Child care. Minnesota provides heavily subsidized child care for low-income families, partly funded by the feds. State subsidies are paid directly to child-care providers, which could enable fraudsters to set up fly-by-night day care to bilk the government. Parents can also claim up to $2,100 a year in federal tax credits for day care.

• Paid leave. Minnesota lets workers take up to 20 weeks of paid family and medical leave a year if they earned at least $3,900 in the prior year. The entitlement is funded by a 0.88 percentage-point payroll tax. A worker who earned $4,000 in a year can receive as much as $5,538 in paid leave, according to a state calculator.

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With so much money and so many programs, this vast system is an open vault for scammers—especially when politicians are loathe to police fraud because doing so might be called “racist” or “anti-poor.” But it’s also corrupting for beneficiaries who have an incentive to remain on the dole rather than build an independent life.

Republicans complain about fraud, but too few want to tackle the perverse incentives that allow it to flourish. Annual government transfer payments have increased by some $1.7 trillion to $4.9 trillion since the start of the pandemic, roughly double the rate of inflation. Minnesota’s problem isn’t immigrants. It’s the welfare state that corrupts them.
Minnesota’s Fraud Problem Isn’t Immigrants

It’s the vast size of the welfare state that corrupts them.

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Stay focused, genius:

POSTS #135, 359, 322, 364

Essentially, you try to back up the LIES about the Somalis and day care by trying to directly tie them into the deluge regarding the overall social service system in Minnesota.
Given that the Somali's make up less than 2% of the overall population, one be logically hard pressed to blame them for the lion share of ANY of the funds allocated.

Deal with it, gumby. FACTS, CRITICAL ANALYSIS of ALL the information takes the wind out of your bigoted propaganda. Now, double down like a good little MAGA/Alt-Right stooge.
 
tigerred59 said:
Its a mess because liberals always take a hands off approach when it comes to immigrants, legal or illegal and I don't understand it. They toss out loans and grants like Halloween treats. They throw in welfare assistance with no oversight or interest, but will in fact, GIVE THOSE BORN IN THIS COUNTRY PURE HELL WHEN IT COMES TO TRYING TO GET INTO THESE PROGRAMS??
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Man, you seem to be seriously into ultra right wing propaganda with all the exaggerated generalizations. Seems EVERY blessed time various politicos want to improve a system, you have the faction that want to totally dismantle it and take the country back to pre-FDR days. If you're down with that, then you've got some serious self examination to do.
 
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