Mitt Romney claim named 'lie of the year'

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Here is what Romney said:

I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state Jeep — now owned by the Italians — is thinking of moving all production to China.
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The Detroit News explains:
Romney was apparently responding to reports Thursday on right-leaning blogs that misinterpreted a recent Bloomberg News story earlier this week that said [accurately] Chrysler, owned by Italian automaker Fiat SpA, is thinking of building Jeeps in China for sale in the Chinese market.
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That's the lie of the year?

How about this one:
For more than 200 years, our party has led the fight for civil rights
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Hope you know how Dems handled the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
 
bravo said:
And this is what the link says....

The Bloomberg story, however, sparked the confusion in the first paragraph of the story, saying Chrysler planned to return Jeep output to China "and may eventually make all of its models in that country."
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Howey said:
Again? Really?
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I'm tired of dealing with the insane ramblings of this Paul Siriasi guy, Bravo, and the other nincompoops on here...


It's clear Mitt misunderstood the Bloomberg report. Everyone should understand that. If Mitt had come out following that and said, "Hey, I misunderstood the story. My bad.", he stood the chance of sweeping the whole incident under the rug, but instead he continued the lie through the infamously erroneous television commercial, which ultimately cost him the election.

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Note: As a professional blogger, I reached out to Craig Trudell, Bloomberg's Detroit Bureau reporter and the author of the original article.

In a twitter response, he reminded me (In the Ranieri Chrysler Blog) that even Chrysler called his article "clear and accurate". Here's the text from that blog:

There are times when the reading of a newswire report generates storms originated by a biased or predisposed approach.

On Oct. 22, 2012, at 11:10 a.m. ET, the Bloomberg News report “Fiat Says Jeep® Output May Return to China as Demand Rises” stated “Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. Manley (President and CEO of the Jeep brand) referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.”

Despite clear and accurate reporting, the take has given birth to a number of stories making readers believe that Chrysler plans to shift all Jeep production to China from North America, and therefore idle assembly lines and U.S. workforce. It is a leap that would be difficult even for professional circus acrobats.

Let’s set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China. It’s simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world’s largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation. A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments.
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In an email I just received from Craig, he gave me permission to share this, later, article from he and his colleague Jeff Green at Bloomberg:

I would direct your forum to these paragraphs in particular:

Romney first claimed that Jeep is decamping for China in front of a crowd of 12,000 supporters at an Oct. 25 rally in Defiance, Ohio. The singer Meat Loaf performed at the event in the Defiance High School football stadium.
“I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state, Jeep, now owned by the Italians, is thinking of moving all production to China,” Romney said. “I will fight for every good job in America, I’m going to fight to make sure trade is fair.”
Romney was citing an Oct. 22 Bloomberg News story about Fiat’s discussions to make Jeeps in China that never said the company would move all production to that country. Even before Romney spoke in Defiance, Chrysler defended the accuracy of the story after it was misrepresented in a blog on the Washington Examiner’s website.
“Despite clear and accurate reporting, the take has given birth to a number of stories making readers believe that Chrysler plans to shift all Jeep production to China from North America, and therefore idle assembly lines and U.S. workforce,” Gaulberto Ranieri, a senior vice president for corporate communications, wrote in an Oct. 25 blog post on Chrysler’s website. “It is a leap that would be difficult even for professional circus acrobats.”
The company has no intention of abandoning its North America production, Ranieri wrote. “A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments.”
Romney’s spokeswoman, Andrea Saul, told the Associated Press yesterday that Romney had relied on what she called an inaccurate story from Bloomberg News, and that Bloomberg had updated its story to indicate that Chrysler wasn’t moving its operations to China.
The story’s first version didn’t say that Chrysler intended to move its Jeep production from the U.S. to China. Bloomberg News did update the story within hours of its first posting to stress that point -- three days before Romney spoke.
Asked to explain what was erroneous with the Bloomberg story, Saul asked to see it then didn’t respond to requests for comment. Bloomberg News spokeswoman Meghan Womack said last night, “Bloomberg’s story was not inaccurate. We stand by our reporting.”
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I hope this puts the insanity of some posters on this forum to a rest regarding this topic. Especially Bravo, :)


THREAD DONE!​
 
Personally, I found the 'I need a new accountant' issue to be much more telling.

Does anyone really believe that Romney wasn't aware that moving your company to China is a tax deductible expense?
 
The list of lies told by rumny and his surrogates is so long and involving so many issues that I would find it impossible to find any one of them as the largest. The total dishonesty and refusal to divulge pertinent information by rumny et al were his demise as well as other repubs that expected to handily win in 2012. I'm certainly glad to see that the attorney general is now going to investigate the gerrymandering of districts for the sole purpose of denying value to the votes of certain people. How is it that the house Democratic candidates received far more votes than the repubs but the repubs have somehow and immorally retained a house majority? Another mystery of the voting machines? I don't think so.
 
Gatorman said:
The list of lies told by rumny and his surrogates is so long and involving so many issues that I would find it impossible to find any one of them as the largest. The total dishonesty and refusal to divulge pertinent information by rumny et al were his demise as well as other repubs that expected to handily win in 2012. I'm certainly glad to see that the attorney general is now going to investigate the gerrymandering of districts for the sole purpose of denying value to the votes of certain people. How is it that the house Democratic candidates received far more votes than the repubs but the repubs have somehow and immorally retained a house majority? Another mystery of the voting machines? I don't think so.
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I predicted the lies from the right, especially Romney, at least 18 months ago.


btw...isn't it funny how the cons have ran away from this thread since I had the writer of the Bloomberg piece bust their bubble?
 
Howey said:
I predicted the lies from the right, especially Romney, at least 18 months ago.


btw...isn't it funny how the cons have ran away from this thread since I had the writer of the Bloomberg piece bust their bubble?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/30/mitt-romney-jeep-china-jobs_n_2045988.html

A Bloomberg story published the previous Monday had stated that Fiat, which owns Chrysler, "plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country."


THAT was the story that was published by Blomberg and Romney was absolutely right in reporting what it says...in black and white...the Bloomberg story said exactly what
Romney repeated....


A line was added to the Bloomberg story after it was published stating that Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia, was referring to "adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China."


A correction was made AFTER publication to clarify and correct the mistake made by the writer of the incorrect article

Even Huffington gets it right sometimes.

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It never fails that when an issue in put into context and the truth is told, it reveals that pinhead lefties continue to mis-state the facts, spin the truth and LIE...
 
bravo said:
A line was added to the Bloomberg story after it was published stating that Mike Manley, [/B]chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia, was referring to "adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China."

A correction was made AFTER publication to clarify and correct the mistake made by the writer of the incorrect article
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That was addressed in my email from Craig:

The story’s first version didn’t say that Chrysler intended to move its Jeep production from the U.S. to China. Bloomberg News did update the story within hours of its first posting to stress that point -- three days before Romney spoke.
Asked to explain what was erroneous with the Bloomberg story, Saul asked to see it then didn’t respond to requests for comment. Bloomberg News spokeswoman Meghan Womack said last night, “Bloomberg’s story was not inaccurate. We stand by our reporting.”
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Why can't you just admit you're wrong and move on????
 
Howey said:
That was addressed in my email from Craig:



Why can't you just admit you're wrong and move on????
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Probably because I'm not wrong....

Romney's comment referred to the Bloomberg story as it was FIRST published.....thats the fact of the matter...
and his comment stated exactly what Bloomberg's article said.....

Why can't you just admit your spinning what actually occurred with your own version of events .....

The reason Romney was wrong was because the original story was wrong......the rest of your crap is irrelevant.....
It doesn't matter when the article was corrected, if you don't know about the correction....
 
bravo said:
Probably because I'm not wrong....

Romney's comment referred to the Bloomberg story as it was FIRST published.....thats the fact of the matter...
and his comment stated exactly what Bloomberg's article said.....

Why can't you just admit your spinning what actually occurred with your own version of events .....

The reason Romney was wrong was because the original story was wrong......the rest of your crap is irrelevant.....
It doesn't matter when the article was corrected, if you don't know about the correction....
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Idiot. Learn to read. The article was clarified THREE DAYS before Romney said a word.
 
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