Mollie Tibbetts murdered by illegal alien!

Typical righty theme. Find an incident and claim it is a trend. Use fear to galvanize the rightys, it works so well on them. Trump has been using fear on the rightys from day 1. His first speech about Latinos was the opener and he has scared the rightys ever since.


This was a horrible incident. That is all it is.
 
anatta said:
I'm talking lives -not statistics.
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If you want to save lives, learn to think in terms of statistics, instead of anecdotes.
I'm all for DACA path to citizenship. But to get that you got give on border security.
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I don't see any value in wasting countless billions of dollars building a symbolic border wall. If conservatives want to get serious on immigration, they should first give on their insistence that they be allowed to waste our tax money that way.

That said, Trump claimed he could get Mexico to pay for the wall. As worthless as the wall would be for securing the nation, it would at least create some jobs to build it, so if Trump can get the Mexicans to foot the bill, I'm fine with that. While he's figuring out how to make good on that promise, though, we should focus on the items I laid out.
 
Oneuli said:
If you want to save lives, learn to think in terms of statistics, instead of anecdotes.


I don't see any value in wasting countless billions of dollars building a symbolic border wall. If conservatives want to get serious on immigration, they should first give on their insistence that they be allowed to waste our tax money that way.

That said, Trump claimed he could get Mexico to pay for the wall. As worthless as the wall would be for securing the nation, it would at least create some jobs to build it, so if Trump can get the Mexicans to foot the bill, I'm fine with that. While he's figuring out how to make good on that promise, though, we should focus on the items I laid out.
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Who currently has both houses and the white house? Where is the legislation they have been crying out for? Gee, it's almost as if the entire thing is another charade.
 
Oneuli said:
With a country as large as this one, you could cherry-pick examples to make the case that pretty much any sizable group you care to name is a huge problem. If I wanted to collect examples of guys named "Joe" who have committed murders and other heinous crimes, I could find thousands of them, and find a steady stream of new ones every month. Similarly, I could smear left-handed people, red-heads, Baptists, Hoosiers, veterans, clergy, married women, or any other large group, simply by using the consequences of large numbers to feed the fearful a steady stream of anecdotes. Undocumented immigrants are no different. There are enough of them that it's inevitable some will do terrible things. But, if you look at it statistically, it turns out that undocumented immigrants commit serious crimes at lower rates than native-born people. They make America safer, not more dangerous. Of course, understanding that point means liberating oneself from xenophobia enough to think clearly. Fear is the mind killer.
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It's not inevitable that some illegals will do terrible things. Since all of them broke the law by coming here without authority to do so or staying past the time they were allowed to stay, that means all of them did a terrible thing. If they aren't here, they can't do any of the terrible things.

Hopefully, one of those you cherish so much will Kate Steinle or Mollie Tibetts your family member.
 
CFM said:
It's not inevitable that some illegals will do terrible things. Since all of them broke the law by coming here without authority to do so or staying past the time they were allowed to stay, that means all of them did a terrible thing. If they aren't here, they can't do any of the terrible things.

Hopefully, one of those you cherish so much will Kate Steinle or Mollie Tibetts your family member.
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YOU broke the law countless times when you jaywalked so...
 
The hidden tragedies in the Mollie Tibbetts killing

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CNN)"I don't want Mollie's memory to get lost amongst politics," worried Billie Jo Calderwood, the aunt of Mollie Tibbetts, the Iowa teenager whose body was recovered this past Tuesday. Calderwood's concerns have been largely futile, as the White House and others have sought to politicize Tibbetts' death.

The reason this horrific death is useful to the Trump administration and its supporters is obvious: here lies an actualization of just the sort of fear they deploy to galvanize their supporters -- a young, white and beautiful girl jogging, allegedly killed at the hands of a cruel and savage foreigner.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/24/opin...men-running-mourning-rafia-zakaria/index.html




 
Lesh said:
YOU broke the law countless times when you jaywalked so...
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Do you have any evidence, photos or video, where I have ever jaywalked?

Your dismissive attitude of illegals doing things like this POS did is why the hope is there that WHEN it happens, it happens to those that think like you do.
 
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