Into the Night
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You are actually going to try to deny the homeless shitting on the sidewalks???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
More Floridians per capita move to California
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You are actually going to try to deny the homeless shitting on the sidewalks???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Into the Night
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You really should read the stuff you link to. It calls you a liar, Sock.
What 'global warming'? No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the planet, Sock. You can't create energy out of nothing. You are STILL ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Could be. Miami's Hispanic population is by and large Cuban. Los Angeles's Hispanic population is mostly Mexican. Cubans tend to be more industrious and law and order oriented, while Mexicans tend to be more ghetto.
In Miami Cubans are more likely to be victims of crimes than perpetrators, and as such, more prone to report them to the police. In Los Angeles, Mexicans are likely to be both victims and perpetrators of crime within their barrios and less likely to report crimes for fear of retribution or loyalty to someone they know, opting instead to have the perpetrators dealt with by others in the hood.
Miami's Mayor is Francis Xavier Suarez, a Republican.
Miami-Dade County, FL is Leaning liberal. In Miami-Dade County, FL 53.3% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 46.0% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 0.7% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, Miami-Dade county remained moderately Democratic, 53.3% to 46.0%.
I don't have a problem with you or anyone else living in California. But I have a right to respond when Florida is called a backwards redneck swamp that people are fleeing for the heavenly paradise of California. That's just a cartoon caricature.
I find it amusing how the extremist, proggies are so obsessed with Florida. The way they gossip and dish dirt, they remind of old ladies who gather for tea and tear some other old lady to pieces...
All because the admittedly extremist right-wing asshole governor hurts the gay and black people's precious little girlie feelings and because George Zimmerman got a fair trial and was rightfully acquitted instead of being lynched on the courthouse lawn like the "progressives" wanted.
Fuck the proggies, fuck DeShameless, fuck the extremist left and fuck the extremist Trumptard right.
Fuck 'em all.
Bulverism
Argument from ignorance fallacy
Bulverism
Argument from ignorance fallacy
Could be. Miami's Hispanic population is by and large Cuban. Los Angeles's Hispanic population is mostly Mexican. Cubans tend to be more industrious and law and order oriented, while Mexicans tend to be more ghetto.
In Miami Cubans are more likely to be victims of crimes than perpetrators, and as such, more prone to report them to the police. In Los Angeles, Mexicans are likely to be both victims and perpetrators of crime within their barrios and less likely to report crimes for fear of retribution or loyalty to someone they know, opting instead to have the perpetrators dealt with by others in the hood.
Miami's Mayor is Francis Xavier Suarez, a Republican.
Miami-Dade County, FL is Leaning liberal. In Miami-Dade County, FL 53.3% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 46.0% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 0.7% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, Miami-Dade county remained moderately Democratic, 53.3% to 46.0%.
I don't have a problem with you or anyone else living in California. But I have a right to respond when Florida is called a backwards redneck swamp that people are fleeing for the heavenly paradise of California. That's just a cartoon caricature.
I find it amusing how the extremist, proggies are so obsessed with Florida. The way they gossip and dish dirt, they remind of old ladies who gather for tea and tear some other old lady to pieces...
All because the admittedly extremist right-wing asshole governor hurts the gay and black people's precious little girlie feelings and because George Zimmerman got a fair trial and was rightfully acquitted instead of being lynched on the courthouse lawn like the "progressives" wanted.
Fuck the proggies, fuck DeShameless, fuck the extremist left and fuck the extremist Trumptard right.
Fuck 'em all.
Why do you keep backtracking, modifying, rephrasing, grasping for new reasons for why Miami and Jacksonville have higher crime rates than Los Angeles?
Is it really just that painful to admit major Florida cities are cesspools of crime, even when compared to Los Angeles
If you love Florida, that's fine. The ones who started promoting the narrative that California is a dystopian hellscape and Florida is a heavenly paradise are Trump's allies. I am just responding to their cartoon caricatures.
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Los Angeles had 3,332 reported crimes per 100k population
Miami had 4,750 crimes per 100k
Jacksonville had 4,168 crimes per 100 k
St. Petersburg had 5,029 crimes per 100k.
Reported crimes in large Florida cities are therefore between 25 to 50 percent higher than in Los Angeles.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Doesn't bother me one bit to acknowledge that Jacksonville and Miami have high crime rates. You seem to be the one having trouble admitting that your state's major cities have them too. I don't recall you ever even addressing the crime rates in Jacksonville and Miami prior to the post I'm responding to now. So really, it's YOU who keeps backtracking, modifying, rephrasing, grasping etc, etc. I'm just responding to each anti-Florida comment you express.
Certainly Florida has its problems as all states do. I have nothing particular against California, but I will say that some of the policies there do not seem to be in the best interest of average, law abiding, middle and working class citizens.
I think the state's government spends too much time, effort and money trying to appease those who the state would be better off without.
First of all, you've provided no link to your statistics, so until you do, your figures are all questionable afaic.
But as I said earlier, and something you failed to address, is the question of the reporting of crimes.
We all know that of all American cities, Los Angeles probably has by far, the highest number of illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants as we also know, don't tend to report crimes to the police. If the message you're trying to insinuate is that Los Angeles is some kind of safe, clean, low crime haven, then you are wasting a lot of effort because nobody buys that for a second.
Port Tack
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utter bullshit.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
fine......prove something I said is not true......
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
what does LA count as crimes nowadays?.......the other locations may still include theft as a reported crime.......obviously LA doesn't.....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
not sure what your source is since you didn't link it......I googled your data and the first link that came up was a fact check on a statement made by Newsom in his debate with DeSantis.....there he compared San Francisco with Jacksonville......the fact checker noted that Newsom was right to say Jacksonville had a higher murder rate than San Francisco (though it was 62% higher rather than the 127% claimed by Newsom)........but it went in to say that while neither San Francisco OR Jacksonville were on the list of the 20 most violent cities in the country, there were no Florida cities on the list and three California cities.....Oakland, Stanton and San Bernadino......in other news, ALL 20 cities in the list were blue.....
https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/fact-check-does-jacksonville-have-higher-murder-rate-than-san-francisco/KJ736ZGHQNDJHI4KRVFSCZVF6I/
Yakuda
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I already gave the link in the post that started this exchange between Nomad and me.
I put the data in a spreadsheet for total reported crimes, and according to the FBI data for every city in Florida and California over 200k in population:
--> Average reported crimes in Florida cities = 4,133 crimes per 100k population
--> Average reported crimes in California cities: 3,626 crimes per 100k population.
That calculates to a 14 percent higher crime rate in Florida cities than in California Cities, on average.
In addition, the total reported crime rates in Miami, Saint Peterburg, Orlando, Jacksonville are substantially higher than in Los Angeles.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
same source I used......it shows the top 20 violent crime locations are all blue cities and that while no Florida cities are in the top 20, three California cities are........looks like your post is an intentional misrepresentation of fact......can you explain why?......
You would have to believe that Florida will suddenly have about 7 times the population growth it has had in the past. Where would they find the extra land? Florida is running out of land to develop. At least Texas and California still have land, but not the water to have people on that land.
Your prediction is silly.
Florida has gone from a low pay/low cost state to a low pay/high cost state. Homeowners insurance has risen by 300% in the last 5 years. This is going to slow growth. Also the lack of land fit for development will slow growth.
Worse yet, insurance is not rising because of outlandish profits. The big interstate insurance companies are not willing to cover Florida houses, even for four times as much money. This has left small, almost unregulated Florida insurance companies insuring against the next big hurricane. These companies will mostly fail without the reinsurance that would be required of bigger companies. That means even a small hurricane will wreck Florida. That cannot help their population.
Even with all that, I am guessing Florida will pickup one House seat in 2030, but there is no way they are picking up FIVE TRILLION ZILLION HOUSE SEATS, or whatever silly number you are coming up with.
Florida is known for its shoddy construction, so even if "hurricane proof homes" were a real thing, they would not be built in Florida.
As for demanding the people in Florida pay for living in Florida, my question is how many will remain in Florida after they pay that price?
T. A. Gardner
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Some Florida houses are being built to survive hurricanes, cut emissions
https://www.tampabay.com/news/flori...being-built-survive-hurricanes-cut-emissions/
How Do Concrete and Cinder Block Homes Fare in Hurricanes?
https://www.attainablehome.com/conc...,they can also withstand category 4 and above.
Even just adding--building code requires these and has for decades now--hurricane ties to rafters makes a home far more likely to survive most hurricanes.
Homes that can withstand most hurricanes can be easily constructed. Maybe they won't survive a direct hit by a category 5, but they can certainly withstand stuff up to a cat 3 with pretty simple and cost effective construction methods. You want cat 5 survival, that too can be done.
That house is designed to survive a cat 5 hurricane.
A cat 5 proof home that proves survival is possible
People in hurricane prone areas have a choice on how they build and how they maintain their homes. If they won't or don't invest in keeping their home safe, that's on them.
It's no different if you live in some wildfire prone part of say, California. Fireproofing you home is possible, but you have to want to do it.
A system like that will set you back less than $2000. Is your home worth it? Even if you have to buy a portable generator and pump to run it, you might be out $3000. Bet your homeowner's insurance goes way down too.
MAGA seems to be convinced that one's life should be guided by house price.
I don't want to be 85 looking back and thinking it was all worth it because I got a cheap house in Tallahassee and my state income tax was far below the national median.
To me, life has to be about more than that.
There are intangibles and aesthetics about where I live in California that I can't put a price tag on.
They do smaller censuses every year to fill in the data between big censuses.