more Obama laying off MJ dispensaries......NOT

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SmarterthanYou

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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...rants-at-oakland-medical-cannabis-school.html

Federal agents descended early Monday on Oaksterdam University — California's first cannabis industry training school — securing the downtown Oakland facility as they served search warrants.

A spokeswoman with the Internal Revenue Service said the raid is part of a joint investigation with the Drug Enforcement Agency but she declined to elaborate.

"It's an ongoing investigation and everything is under seal, so we're not able to comment," she said.

The raid comes as federal officials are stepping up a crackdown on medical cannabis dispensaries and the landlords who provide them space in which to operate.

Despite the 1996 California law that legalized marijuana for medicinal use, the feds have maintained that the dispensaries still violate federal law.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...rants-at-oakland-medical-cannabis-school.html

Federal agents descended early Monday on Oaksterdam University — California's first cannabis industry training school — securing the downtown Oakland facility as they served search warrants.

A spokeswoman with the Internal Revenue Service said the raid is part of a joint investigation with the Drug Enforcement Agency but she declined to elaborate.

"It's an ongoing investigation and everything is under seal, so we're not able to comment," she said.

The raid comes as federal officials are stepping up a crackdown on medical cannabis dispensaries and the landlords who provide them space in which to operate.

Despite the 1996 California law that legalized marijuana for medicinal use, the feds have maintained that the dispensaries still violate federal law.
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The dispensaries will remain for the large part unaffected by the raids. Profits is profits. Taxes is taxes. In twain they shall remain. No pain, no gain?
 
Johnny Rocketfingers said:
It doesn't hurt it. Look at Topspin. Hell, Obama could arrest Top personally and he'd still vote for him (as long as he didn't get a felony conviction).
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you're most likely right...but i would think after making his promises he wouldn't go back on them in an election year. especially over, what is becoming, a high profile issue.
 
none said:
you're most likely right...but i would think after making his promises he wouldn't go back on them in an election year. especially over, what is becoming, a high profile issue.
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You'd think that, but pot smokers, despite being single issue voters, will vote for him in droves. The only alternative for them is Johnson or Paul. And much as Paul is the only Republican that could be Obama (partially because of the weed vote), he won't get the nomination.
 
Johnny Rocketfingers said:
You'd think that, but pot smokers, despite being single issue voters, will vote for him in droves. The only alternative for them is Johnson or Paul. And much as Paul is the only Republican that could be Obama (partially because of the weed vote), he won't get the nomination.
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true...iirc...mitt is against it or i think he weaseled and said something about state rights. i remember i wasn't impressed with his response.
 
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Federal agents have conducted more than 170 raids of medical marijuana operations nationwide since 2009, according to Americans for Safe Access.


Obama has taken the war on drugs to a whole new level against marijuana. So much for his campaign promises...

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama stated, "The basic concept of using medical marijuana ... [is] entirely appropriate," and pledged, "I'm not going to be using Justice Department resources to try and circumvent state laws on this issue."
As president, Obama promised, "Science and the scientific process must inform and guide [the] decisions of my administration."
 
Johnny Rocketfingers said:
Mitt is for whatever his base is for until he's elected, then he's for power. And power requires no pot.
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just like virtually every other president...especially in the last decades.

and you're unfortunately right, making pot illegal gives a ridiculous amount of power to the feds and some states. for once i wish they would be more concerned with taxing it, than spending tax $$, fruitlessly, trying to stop the use of marijuana. prohibition was...what, about 10 years...we're coming up on a 100 years, with the "war" for about 40 years. usage has not declined.
 
none said:
just like virtually every other president...especially in the last decades.

and you're unfortunately right, making pot illegal gives a ridiculous amount of power to the feds and some states. for once i wish they would be more concerned with taxing it, than spending tax $$, fruitlessly, trying to stop the use of marijuana. prohibition was...what, about 10 years...we're coming up on a 100 years, with the "war" for about 40 years. usage has not declined.
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Then you have to support the younger generation, and get people like me into politics. We can't wait for the Boomers to die (maybe we can speed up the process).
 
webbway said:
:lol:

Federal agents have conducted more than 170 raids of medical marijuana operations nationwide since 2009, according to Americans for Safe Access.


Obama has taken the war on drugs to a whole new level against marijuana. So much for his campaign promises...

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama stated, "The basic concept of using medical marijuana ... [is] entirely appropriate," and pledged, "I'm not going to be using Justice Department resources to try and circumvent state laws on this issue."
As president, Obama promised, "Science and the scientific process must inform and guide [the] decisions of my administration."
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Everything in context, my friends. Just how many raids were undertaken by the Feds in the previous 3 years to 2009? I'm guessing far more but I'm betting that whoever came up with the 170 # raid number won't be coming up with that one.
 
Gatorman said:
Everything in context, my friends. Just how many raids were undertaken by the Feds in the previous 3 years to 2009? I'm guessing far more but I'm betting that whoever came up with the 170 # raid number won't be coming up with that one.
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you tell me...
 
Gatorman said:
Everything in context, my friends. Just how many raids were undertaken by the Feds in the previous 3 years to 2009? I'm guessing far more but I'm betting that whoever came up with the 170 # raid number won't be coming up with that one.
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Care to substantiate that with facts? And what context is there? Saying "I, as a former pot smoker, will not target medical marijuana dispensaries" and then going out and specifically targeting them (in addition to other power grabs like F&F) is, politely said, a fucking dick move.
 
Johnny Rocketfingers said:
Care to substantiate that with facts? And what context is there? Saying "I, as a former pot smoker, will not target medical marijuana dispensaries" and then going out and specifically targeting them (in addition to other power grabs like F&F) is, politely said, a fucking dick move.
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The "fact" here is that someone is saying that there have been 170 raids on medical marijuana dispensaries in the last 3 years. I accept that. I merely ask what the previous 3 years looked like and only bet the author would not be forthcoming on that issue. It's a guess and you're getting shitty about it? This may sound silly to you but the Prez didn't personally go on any of those drug raids and I don't recall him ever referring to himself as "a former pot smoker". My local Police Chief says he will not tolerate profiling or speed traps. Do I really need to draw you that picture? These cases go to court ya know and prison sometimes results. But, no profiling or speed traps ever, right? Riiiiiiiight.
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/03/us-usa-marijuana-california-idUSBRE8421FK20120503

A crackdown on California's medical marijuana supply chain by federal authorities targeting the state's illegal drug trade arrived this week in the affluent, coastal county of Santa Barbara.

The latest actions include three asset forfeiture lawsuits filed against properties housing marijuana operations and warning letters sent to people associated with 10 cannabis dispensaries deemed "illegal marijuana stores," federal officials said.

"All known marijuana stores in Santa Barbara County are now the subject of federal enforcement actions," a statement from the U.S. Attorney's Office in Los Angeles said.
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But Obama is a rocking president because he was responsible for the rise in medical dispensaries......
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/us/hundreds-of-california-medical-marijuana-shops-close.html?_r=2

Acting on federal law, which considers all possession and distribution of marijuana to be illegal, California’s four United States attorneys, working with the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Internal Revenue Service, have shut down at least 500 dispensaries statewide in the last eight months by sending letters to operators, landlords and local officials, warning of criminal charges and the seizure of assets. The United States attorneys said the dispensaries were violating not only federal law but also state law, which requires operators to be primary caregivers to their customers and distribute marijuana only for medical purposes.

“We’re not concerned in prosecuting patients or people who are legitimate caregivers for ill people, who are in good faith complying with state law,” said Benjamin B. Wagner, the United States attorney for the Eastern District of California. “But we are concerned about large commercial operations that are generating huge amounts of money by selling marijuana in this essentially unregulated free-for-all that exists in California.”
 
just another Obomber war

But over the past year, the Obama administration has quietly unleashed a multi*agency crackdown on medical cannabis that goes far beyond anything undertaken by George W. Bush. The feds are busting growers who operate in full compliance with state laws, vowing to seize the property of anyone who dares to even rent to legal pot dispensaries, and threatening to imprison state employees responsible for regulating medical marijuana. With more than 100 raids on pot dispensaries during his first three years, Obama is now on pace to exceed Bush's record for medical-marijuana busts. "There's no question that Obama's the worst president on medical marijuana," says Rob Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project. "He's gone from first to worst."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/obamas-war-on-pot-20120216#ixzz1zO8w7aqq
this topic comes up often, it helps to understand Gonzalez v Raich, but even that only focus on the Commere Clause.
I would recommned taking a couple minutes to read this 3 page article -it lays it all out (Ogden Memo) (DEA pressures on DoJ).
It is the most comprehensive single source i've found to datet
 
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/06/tax-court-burns-entire-u-s-medical-marijuana-industry/

Medical marijuana dispensaries that have taken federal tax deductions are about to be gut-checked by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), thanks to a recent ruling by the U.S. Tax Court in Washington, D.C.

In Olive v. Commissioner (PDF), judges unanimously found that the owner of the Vapor Room Herbal Center, one of San Francisco’s largest and most profitable dispensaries, was not allowed to take business deductions because the business was trafficking in a controlled substance.

The tactic has been increasingly favored by the IRS since 2008, when the U.S. tax agency began conducting audits of major California dispensaries. One of the first businesses targeted by the IRS was the Martin Alliance for Medical Marijuana, which was forced to shut its doors after the IRS cited § 280E of the federal tax code, which prohibits deductions on sales of controlled substances, and demanded millions of dollars in back taxes.

sure glad that obama said he'd lay off the dispensaries or things would really be bad.
 
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