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So water "migrates"? Have they started tagging molecules with RFID collars? Are you trying to say something different?
 
even with currents the water is replaced with other water that's in the same current. What the fuck does it mean to migrate if you're talking about a water molecule. You are an idiot and your strawman attempt is feeble.
 
tinfoil said:
even with currents the water is replaced with other water that's in the same current. What the fuck does it mean to migrate if you're talking about a water molecule. You are an idiot and your strawman attempt is feeble.
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Calling me an idiot doesn't prove me wrong. Do I really have to google this for you? Look up the Gulf Strean to start getting a clue what you are talking about.
 
how does the gulf stream equal migration of the water? The notion of migrating water is what I said is idiotic and you are an idiot for conflating that with currents which are completely different than migration. You are comparing the ducks to the path they take.
 
tinfoil said:
how does the gulf stream equal migration of the water? The notion of migrating water is what I said is idiotic and you are an idiot for conflating that with currents which are completely different than migration. You are comparing the ducks to the path they take.
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So you don't think water molecules flow in the Gulf Stream?
 
tinfoil said:
So water "migrates"? Have they started tagging molecules with RFID collars? Are you trying to say something different?
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water chemistry differs depending on where in the ocean it happens to be and can indicate where it originated from

where are the cites for your statements or are they just hyperbole and opinion
 
Rune said:
So you don't think water molecules flow in the Gulf Stream?
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LOL do you think there is no water molecules that replace the position of the moving molecules? Or in your world, do the water molecules build up in one hemisphere? LOL idiot
 
This was the simplest explaination I could find for you, and I am typing this as slow as possible;


The conveyor belt on a continuous-ocean map

The movement of surface currents pushed by the wind is fairly intuitive. For example, the wind easily produces ripples on the surface of a pond. Thus the deep ocean — devoid of wind — was assumed to be perfectly static by early oceanographers. However, modern instrumentation shows that current velocities in deep water masses can be significant (although much less than surface speeds).
In the deep ocean, the predominant driving force is differences in density, caused by salinity and temperature (the more saline the denser, and the colder the denser). There is often confusion over the components of the circulation that are wind and density driven.[SUP][2][/SUP] Note that ocean currents due to tides are also significant in many places; most prominent in relatively shallow coastal areas, tidal currents can also be significant in the deep ocean.
The density of ocean water is not globally homogeneous, but varies significantly and discretely. Sharply defined boundaries exist between water masses which form at the surface, and subsequently maintain their own identity within the ocean. They position themselves one above or below each other according to their density, which depends on both temperature and salinity.
Warm seawater expands and is thus less dense than cooler seawater. Saltier water is denser than fresher water because the dissolved salts fill interstices between water molecules, resulting in more mass per unit volume. Lighter water masses float over denser ones (just as a piece of wood or ice will float on water, see buoyancy). This is known as "stable stratification". When dense water masses are first formed, they are not stably stratified. In order to take up their most stable positions, water masses of different densities must flow, providing a driving force for deep currents.
The thermohaline circulation is mainly triggered by the formation of deep water masses in the North Atlantic and the Southern Ocean and Haline forcing caused by differences in temperature and salinity of the water.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermohaline_circulation

I hope this helps.
 
OMG you are an idiot. I'm not disputing ocean currents! Get it! You are throwing up the same strawman.

I said the process can not be described as migration
 
Rune said:
This was the simplest explaination I could find for you, and I am typing this as slow as possible;


The conveyor belt on a continuous-ocean map

The movement of surface currents pushed by the wind is fairly intuitive. For example, the wind easily produces ripples on the surface of a pond. Thus the deep ocean — devoid of wind — was assumed to be perfectly static by early oceanographers. However, modern instrumentation shows that current velocities in deep water masses can be significant (although much less than surface speeds).
In the deep ocean, the predominant driving force is differences in density, caused by salinity and temperature (the more saline the denser, and the colder the denser). There is often confusion over the components of the circulation that are wind and density driven.[SUP][2][/SUP] Note that ocean currents due to tides are also significant in many places; most prominent in relatively shallow coastal areas, tidal currents can also be significant in the deep ocean.
The density of ocean water is not globally homogeneous, but varies significantly and discretely. Sharply defined boundaries exist between water masses which form at the surface, and subsequently maintain their own identity within the ocean. They position themselves one above or below each other according to their density, which depends on both temperature and salinity.
Warm seawater expands and is thus less dense than cooler seawater. Saltier water is denser than fresher water because the dissolved salts fill interstices between water molecules, resulting in more mass per unit volume. Lighter water masses float over denser ones (just as a piece of wood or ice will float on water, see buoyancy). This is known as "stable stratification". When dense water masses are first formed, they are not stably stratified. In order to take up their most stable positions, water masses of different densities must flow, providing a driving force for deep currents.
The thermohaline circulation is mainly triggered by the formation of deep water masses in the North Atlantic and the Southern Ocean and Haline forcing caused by differences in temperature and salinity of the water.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermohaline_circulation

I hope this helps.
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i think that you may have overloaded him
 
Don Quixote said:
i think that you may have overloaded him
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Clearly, yet he insists there is some other unknown system at work, or not, which he so far refuses to discuss, instead using the repeated utterance of the word idiot as a debate tactic, with an occasional "strawman" thrown out there as well.
 
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