More proof what morons these global warming hoaxers are

Truth Detector said:
How do climate doomsayers explain the current state of Arctic ice?
By Vijay Jayaraj

With ice coverage for July and August remaining above the ten-year average of 2010–20, the extent of summer sea ice in the Arctic has surprised experts who once predicted that such levels would be impossible.

This stands in stark contrast to the dominant climate narrative that predicts the dwindling of summer ice in the Arctic. Some politicians had even claimed that parts of the Arctic would be ice-free by now.

With the seasonal Arctic melt technically over, it is fair to conclude that the extent of ice in the summer of 2022 has been greater than the ten-year average. On most days in July and August, sea ice levels were above the ten-year average and significantly more than the previous few years.

The Japanese National Institute of Polar Research provides a useful visualization in the graph below. This year's Arctic sea ice — shown in red — is compared with the ten-year average and the levels of the previous few years, including that of 2012, when ice had reached its lowest of the period tracked.

https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent

According to the Danish Meteorological Institute, the extent of Arctic sea ice was much greater than the last five years, as shown in the below graph.

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php

Summer temperatures in the Arctic remained at levels similar to the 44-year average of 1958–2002, with no marked increase in warming. In the graph, temperature is shown in the Kelvin scale; the horizontal blue line is freezing, or zero degrees Celsius and 32 degrees Fahrenheit.

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

Now, here's the big question: why were internationally acclaimed climate scientists unable to predict this marked increase in the extent of summer sea ice? Is it because their overall approach is biased toward supporting the theory that carbon dioxide is warming the planet to dangerous levels? Or is it because their models are incapable of predicting future temperatures?

The answers must come from the doomsayers themselves. They need to explain why Arctic summer temperatures have been not at all different from the 44-year average and why summer sea ice is above decadal averages.

Acknowledging that we have yet to understand the complex climate system will undermine the credibility of scientists and political institutions advancing destructive energy policies to address a fantasy of climate catastrophe.

Melting of Arctic ice has been used as a major data point in the justification of restrictive energy policies adopted by many countries. It is ironic — and infuriating — that millions across the world are suffering from high energy prices and blackouts at the same time that Arctic sea ice has been at its greatest extent in five years!

Europe is facing rapidly rising electricity prices and a natural gas shortage. Citizens in the U.S. are experiencing high energy prices as their access to cheap fossil fuels is restricted by government's infatuation with solar and wind power. China is scampering to reduce blackouts. All this could have been avoided if political leaders had not promoted a false climate emergency.

It makes no sense to force people to live in darkness in the name of climate policy when the policy-makers themselves have so little understanding of the planet's mechanisms of warming and cooling. Acknowledge the infancy of climate science and liberate people from energy tyranny.

Vijay Jayaraj is a research associate at the CO2 Coalition, Arlington, VA. He holds a Master's degree in environmental sciences from the University of East Anglia, U.K. and resides in India.
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I personally don’t care how many of you deniers rebuild, start all over and beg for more government money …
 
Into the Night Soil
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You can't create energy out of nothing.
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So where did it come from ?
 
Into the Night said:
Omniscience fallacy. You don't get to speak for everyone. You only get to speak for you. Climate cannot change. There is no value associated with climate to change. Climate is a subjective description of weather. A marine climate is always a marine climate, even if you are standing in the desert. There is no such thing as a global climate.

This buzzword is simply used to replace that other buzzword that was getting long in the tooth: global warming.

Has weather changed? Yes. Weather is changing all the time.

Well, you fell into believing them here.

There is no cause for what does not exist. No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth.

You usually do, but this time you fell into their preaching.
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Sometimes, you can be a massive dumbass you know that? :palm:
 
Bourbon said:
I personally don’t care how many of you deniers rebuild, start all over and beg for more government money …
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There you go with that moronic "deniers" meme. I don't think you leftist dipshits can post without lying and looking stupid.

No one is denying the earth has been warming since the last ice age dipshit. We just know that claiming it is because of man isn't about science, it's about Government control. You, being a low IQ uneducated dipshit, are too stupid to comprehend the OBVIOUS. :palm:
 
Truth Detector said:
There you go with that moronic "deniers" meme. I don't think you leftist dipshits can post without lying and looking stupid.
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Quite right.
Truth Detector said:
No one is denying the earth has been warming since the last ice age dipshit.
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That is, of course, assuming there WAS an ice age. This too is a religion. Science has no theories about past unobserved events.
Truth Detector said:
We just know that claiming it is because of man isn't about science, it's about Government control.
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Quite right. In short, it's about tyranny.
Truth Detector said:
You, being a low IQ uneducated dipshit,
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IQ is a meaningless number.
Truth Detector said:
are too stupid to comprehend the OBVIOUS. :palm:
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Right again. The Church of Global Warming routinely tries to use a magick gas to create energy out of nothing, or to reduce entropy, or both. They routinely claim to have this god-like knowledge of the temperature of the Earth or the global sea level.
 
People who refer to scientists at The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and anywhere else for that matter, as "morons" don't belong in grown up conversation let alone a debate forum.
 
martin said:
People who refer to scientists at The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and anywhere else for that matter, as "morons" don't belong in grown up conversation let alone a debate forum.
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Forum ? They think it's a dumpster for yesterday's memes.
 
BartenderElite said:
Things like invading Iraq? Or not taking a pandemic seriously?
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Things like Communism--Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, etc. There's about 150 to 200 million dead between them. Invading places? The Left has the top spot on doing that. Pandemic? Leftist solutions like shutting down economies (wrecked those), closing schools (making kids stupid), wearing masks 24/7 (ineffective), etc. were all fails. Hell, the Leftist government in China was welding the doors to people's apartments shut to keep them isolated (and starving to death). The Left in Australia set up concentration camps for those that failed to toe the line on their edicts.

Seriously. The Left is the single most destructive force in modern history.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Things like Communism--Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, etc. There's about 150 to 200 million dead between them. Invading places? The Left has the top spot on doing that. Pandemic? Leftist solutions like shutting down economies (wrecked those), closing schools (making kids stupid), wearing masks 24/7 (ineffective), etc. were all fails. Hell, the Leftist government in China was welding the doors to people's apartments shut to keep them isolated (and starving to death). The Left in Australia set up concentration camps for those that failed to toe the line on their edicts.

Seriously. The Left is the single most destructive force in modern history.
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Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, etc. were fascist dictators.

False appeal to history fallacy.
 
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