More Troops to Afghan

The key to leaving is a stable Afghan government. How does that happen? Nation building. Otherwise, it's the never-ending presence, isn't it?
that might never be possible. We're gonna try given the commitment of their ANAF..
We have manged to piss off Russia who is using DC Noise as reasoning to start negotiations -including the Taliban.

All we are doing is shoring up existing US forces to their limited roles w/Trump's 4,000.

If/when that goes bad - then we just bomb the suckers with Wack A Mole < (but nobody will say that)
 
that might never be possible. We're gonna try given the commitment of their ANAF..
We have manged to piss off Russia who is using DC Noise as reasoning to start negotiations -including the Taliban.

All we are doing is shoring up existing US forces to their limited roles w/Trump's 4,000.

If/when that goes bad - then we just bomb the suckers with Wack A Mole < (but nobody will say that)

The bolded is astonishing.

You're talking about people's lives.
 
He conned 77,000 morons just like you in 3 states. The polls show buyer's remorse in those same states. But idiots like you are too stupid to realize how badly you were fooled.

What's your next "if/would" fantasy, tardspeak?

would these be the same kind of polls that made tards think hilldog would win?
 
ya dumb assed stick. you're confusing me with Trumps campaign promise to get out.
I just POSTED TO you I used the word "intervention" - like not intervening!! *duh*

You obviously have no self respect, no steadfast principles, and are fully willing to get on your knees and put a lip lock on Trump's fat, flabby ass.

Shall we just call you Chief NeoCon Extraordinaire from now on?

I'm not sure it's even worth talking to you if your so called bedrock principles change on a daily, even hourly basis. I mean, how can I ever tell if you are actually telling the truth, or simply lying for your hero?
 
You obviously have no self respect, no steadfast principles, and are fully willing to get on your knees and put a lip lock on Trump's fat, flabby ass.

Shall we just call you Chief NeoCon Extraordinaire from now on?

I'm not sure it's even worth talking to you if your so called bedrock principles change on a daily, even hourly basis. I mean, how can I ever tell if you are actually telling the truth, or simply lying for your hero?

YOU STUPID IDIOT. WHAT PART OF NOT INTERVENING (non interventionism) do you not understand???
3 freaking times now I told you I am a non-interventionist - like STARTING A WAR=interventionism for regime change.
I've criticized HRClinton/Obama for their INTERVENTIONISM..DO YOU GET IT>?>?
 
Really good speech.

Laid out a comprehensive plan, including Pakistan and India. No time lines. No nation building. Conditions based withdrawal. And I like the idea of a coalition government including the Taliban.

Gives them a reason to quit the fight in favor of a political solution in Afghanistan.

Don't spin it. This sucks. The globalists have invaded the White House. We need to be out of that shithole. There is nothing to be gained by us staying.

What is ironic is that the same lefties who were clamoring for Trump to get rid of Bannon got rid of the one guy who opposed this.

I can't figger out whether the libs really wanna go or stay in Afghanistan. Or maybe they are only interested in cheap political points?
 
Look who suddenly supports a.... what is it you always call Hillary Clinton and John McCain... "war monger"?

Isn't that the main reason you claimed to so adamantly hate those two?

And now that Dumpster Donnie is about to send untold thousands more troops to get chewed up and spit out I guess you'll have to come up with some new line of bullshit spin to justify it and continue kissing his ass without looking like a totally shameless Trumptard.

And to not have to admit that you've been had.
So are you happy for Afghanistan to become the new Islamic State?
 
You are full of shit.

War is war.

Escalation is escalation.

Spin is spin.

Thousands more Americans will be killed and maimed.

You pilloried Hillary for being a war monger simply because she cast a vote to authorize use of force in Iraq. You fawned over Trump because he promised to get us out of Afstan. Now he's going back on his word and doing the opposite of what he said during the campaign and you're still lapping up his shit.
Seems that you've learnt nothing from Obama's failure to stop Daesh in Iraq and Syria.
 
I arrived at three fundamental conclusion about America’s core interests in Afghanistan....

. First, our nation must seek an honorable and enduring outcome worthy of the tremendous sacrifices that have been made, especially the sacrifices of lives. The men and women who serve our nation in combat deserve a plan for victory. They deserve the tools they need and the trust they have earned to fight and to win.

Second, the consequences of a rapid exit are both predictable and unacceptable.

A hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum for terrorists, including ISIS and Al Qaeda, would instantly fill just as happened before Sept. 11. And as we know, in 2011, America hastily and mistakenly withdrew from Iraq. As a result, our hard-won gains slipped back into the hands of terrorist enemies. Our soldiers watched as cities they had fought for and bled to liberate, and won, were occupied by a terrorist group called ISIS. The vacuum we created by leaving too soon gave safe haven for ISIS to spread, to grow, recruit and launch attacks. We cannot repeat in Afghanistan the mistake our leaders made in Iraq.

Third, and finally, I concluded that the security threats we face in Afghanistan and the broader region are immense. Today, 20 U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organizations are active in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the highest concentration in any region anywhere in the world.

For its part, Pakistan often gives safe haven to agents of chaos, violence and terror. The threat is worse because Pakistan and India are two nuclear-armed states
Sadly Gomer/Yesmad are far too simple minded to appreciate such subtleties.
 
idiot. not war is war. war is either effectively prosecuted or not.

Hillray voted for NATIONBUILDING and organized REGIME CHANGE in Iraq/Libya.

I would be OK with getting all the way out, but that would leave a vacuum ( as Trump said).
we really do not want to leave a terrorist state behind

This is the best way - small amount of troops in a support role to KILL TERRORISTS-
and trying much harder to get the regional players to step up

Trump took the least worst option on Afghanistan.

Everyone wants out, but pulling out will have the effect of making a safe space for the Islamists. That's a given, based on our experience over the past decade---under Obama.

No nation building. If the Afghanis want to be Communists, we don't care, so long as the country is reasonably stable and not a terror hot bed.

Pakistanis are going to be pressured. China is the key to NK like Pakistan is the key to Afghanistan. I guess it took a real estate mogul to figure that out.

I'm on board.
 
I think there's a rule that anyone on this board who thought Invading and Occupying Iraq was a great idea can just shut their mouths on any thread where military strategy is the topic. They have no - none, zero, nada, zilch - credibility.

So take a back seat, and keep quiet, ma'am.

Well do that as soon as you shut your mouth on healthcare.

K?
 
So are you happy for Afghanistan to become the new Islamic State?

I have no problem with our presence in Afghanistan or even an increase in troop strength there.

My issue with annette is how he ran his mouth about people like Clinton and McCain being war mongers and using that as his rationale for supporting Trump but now, is drooling and fawning over him despite going back on his campaign promises.
 
Don't spin it. This sucks. The globalists have invaded the White House. We need to be out of that shithole. There is nothing to be gained by us staying.

What is ironic is that the same lefties who were clamoring for Trump to get rid of Bannon got rid of the one guy who opposed this.

I can't figger out whether the libs really wanna go or stay in Afghanistan. Or maybe they are only interested in cheap political points?

Nobody wants to stay there.

But you simply can't deny that total withdrawal will lead to the identical result as when Obama adandoned Iraq and when we mindlessly destabilized Libya.

Maybe you or someone else can explain how the same result in Afghanistan would serve US interests.

Also, Trump made it pretty clear this wasn't opended ended. If he doesn't get the results he wants, he'll say Fvct it, and pull the plug on it somewhere don't the road.
 
Seems that you've learnt nothing from Obama's failure to stop Daesh in Iraq and Syria.

Seems like you've learned nothing from every other previous failure of military campaigns in that region including Russia's.

Terrorism is born of ideology and you cannot eradicate ideology.
 
Nobody wants to stay there.

But you simply can't deny that total withdrawal will lead to the identical result as when Obama adandoned Iraq and when we mindlessly destabilized Libya.

Maybe you or someone else can explain how the same result in Afghanistan would serve US interests.

Also, Trump made it pretty clear this wasn't opended ended. If he doesn't get the results he wants, he'll say Fvct it, and pull the plug on it somewhere don't the road.

IOW, he telegraphed a message to the terrorists that all they have to do is lay low and wait us out until we eventually leave.

IOW, the exact same thing he criticized Obama for.

And the Trumptards swallow as usual.
 
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