MOTHER of all CARAVANS - Poor & Uneducated WHITES ... mass to invade U.S.A.
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We surely don't need anymore people to take care of...that's*a given..I'm going to guess no one posting here saying "bring em all in" has any idea of the gravity of the situation...
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I've already addressed this argument. See above.
Can nobody know the reasons for any war other than those they saw as adults? Then we're all too young to know the reasons for any war other than a tiny sampling that happened to occur in recent decades. Obviously, that's not how it works. You can know why Hitler invaded Poland as well as a German who happened to be a middle-aged Berliner back when it happened -- possibly better, since you will have learned about it after the history had been digested and much of the behind-the-scenes action had come out, whereas he will be burdened by having learned about it first through the lens of Nazi administration propaganda. The same is true for a non-elderly person commenting on Bush's desire to start a war on Iraq.
Many weren't convinced, which is why the US couldn't even line up some of its closest allies, like Germany and France, behind its war-mongering attempt to get a UN resolution. They, sanely, wanted to give inspectors more time to learn the truth. Bush, on the other hand, became increasingly impatient the more evidence came out undermining the case against Iraq (e.g., the lies about Niger uranium, the supposed al Qaeda/Iraq meeting, and all those sites our sources insisted were WMD sites but inspectors confirmed weren't). Bush saw the case for war rapidly unraveling as more intelligence came in, so he rushed us into attacking without even holding the vote he'd promised to hold in the UN.
Overall, Hussein was a bulwark against terrorism, as a secular leader imposing order in an area otherwise likely to devolve into a playground for both Shiite extremists and Sunni groups like al Qaeda and ISIS. Everyone who understood security policy warned that taking down Hussein would bolster such terrorists, but right-wingers, who understand nothing about security policy, were sure they were wrong. Now we all know who got it right.
Yes. And the same can be said for the leaders of about three dozen nations at any given time -- brutal dictators are a dime a dozen. That's not treated as a reason to conquer the country unless we see resources to seize and want to use a fake humanitarian concern to try to fool a handful of soft-headed bleeding hearts to move into the warmonger camp.
It was a multi-trillion-dollar error that we'll be paying for generations to come.
There are always some who wave the flags for an invader, if only to curry favor. But in the end, a significant chunk of the population was willing to face near certain death in facing our vastly superior force, because they saw us as a hostile occupier -- an outcome that those who understood security issues correctly foresaw and noisily warned of, but that the "cake walk twits" on the right had stupidly dismissed when they were told it was going to happen. That's why none of the informed people take them seriously. They're consistently wrong about everything.
Protecting those shipping lanes didn't require trying to install a fresh puppet in Iraq. In fact, threats to our shipping have actually been made worse when idiotic right-wingers engage in their usual geopolitical incompetence -- for example, the USS Stark was attacked "accidentally" after Hussein found out that the US (his nominal ally) had been secretly arming his arch-enemies, the Iranians. As always, the wingnuts thought they were playing such a clever Realpolitik game, and as always, it blew up horribly in America's face.
Agreed. But this far into your dotage, it's hard to imagine your perspective will widen at all.
Eagle_Eye
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No my dear you refuse to accept facts! You stick with the utopian bullshit that you clearly learned from your parents based on your posts about them. You are an intelligent young woman who someday will hopefully grow up based on Owl's politics I doubt you will ever reach moderate but hopefully more realistic.
I also noted you evaded my Korea example, truth hurt?
I definitely didn't. I responded to it directly. Reread.
Please stop whoring for illegal immigration.
I noted it too, Grumpy. Just the usual, black isn’t really, really black.
Not for a very long time, if ever...‘Or it would have happened...No vacancy signs needs to up here for those with no path or resources to come here and live ....
Mason Michaels
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Eagle_Eye
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I scanned your replies and not one was any more than the canned BS the anti war anti military crowd have been spouting for years. The least you could do is repackage it so it looks new.
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moon
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It doesn't have to ' look new ', drone - it's the ageless truth.
My children love me. I never lied to them like your parents have to you obviously.
That is untrue. Legitimate businesses do not use illegal labor. It just so happens though that 90% plus of illegal labor is used in blue states. Hmmmmmmmmm
I don't see the trump administration going after any businesses. His own businesses employed illegals but still he stays laser-focused on the workers rather than the employers. Does anybody think people would be coming here to work if jobs were scarce?
And not just farmers. Construction contractors. Restaurant owners. Landscaping companies.
I don't see the trump administration going after any businesses. His own businesses employed illegals but still he stays laser-focused on the workers rather than the employers. Does anybody think people would be coming here to work if jobs were scarce?
I do not recall Obama doing crap either. Or Bush. Or Clinton. This really is not a partisan issue. They all suck.