MUELLER invest'g SUITCASES/DUFFELs full of CASH from Russia & Putin to Trump campaign

Frank Apisa said:
Keep repeating that last line.

You may eventually convince yourself of it.

I doubt you will convince anyone with a functioning brain, though.
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It's entirely true. We needed a special counsel to bust a Dutch lawyer and sentence him to 30 days in jail? Go back to sleep Frank, you need your rest to get in 9 holes tomorrow.
 
Centerleftfl said:
I think it is safe to say that PUTIN WANTED TRUMP TO WIN! Follow the money! Note the very last sentence. There has never been an accounting of TRUMP'S MASSIVE inauguration fund. They've refused. Hey RACHEL (Maddow), WHERE ARE YOU?? She's been mentioning this periodically for months.

Either way, their story suggests that one way Russia might have injected money into the
American political system for the 2016 election and beyond was not via traceable and accountable electronic transfers, but
the old-fashioned delivery of cold, hard cash.

Flying around stacks of cash is a time-honored way to get money into circulation in a distant place with no one in between learning about it — most of the time.

If Russian officials were shipping cash to the United States in 2016 for deposit in American bank accounts, which were then the apparently legitimate points of origination
for payments to political campaigns or political action committees, it could have been a powerful and deniable source of influence.​


The Russia Investigations: On The Hunt For Duffel Bags Full Of Cash
April 7, 20187:00 AM ET
PHILIP EWING

Investigations: Mueller sends the feds to meet some international arrivees; new sanctions on some powerful, wealthy Russians; and Mr. Zuckerberg goes to Washington. A gleaming new Gulfstream 650 — or maybe it's a Sukhoi business jet — sweeps in for a landing at Teterboro Airport, the suburban New Jersey entrepôt for elite fliers on their way to nearby Manhattan. The sleek aircraft turns smartly off the runway and heads for the "executive passenger terminal," where a row of black vehicles is parked and waiting as usual. But when the hatch folds down to permit passengers to deplane and make their short drive into New York, someone is standing in the way:

That, at least, was the scene painted in an exclusive report by CNN's Kara Scannell and Shimon Prokupecz. Mueller himself might not be standing on the tarmac, but FBI investigators from his office have interdicted at least two wealthy Russians recently on their way into the United States, they report.
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The special counsel's office is apparently trying to establish whether powerful Russians who owe fealty to President Vladimir Putin — the oft-referenced "oligarchs" —may have funneled cash donations to President Trump's campaign or his inauguration fund.


The Russia Sanctions Saga: Weapons Dealers, Mobsters And Suitcases Full Of Cash

On Friday, the Treasury Department targeted some of those same oligarchs for a new round of sanctions, along with a number of other Russian government officials and entities — including the state weapons exporter. And here was the description Treasury gave of the conduct of one targeted Russian, gold baron Suleiman Kerimov:

"He is alleged to have brought hundreds of millions of euros into France – transporting as much as 20 million Euros at a time in suitcases, in addition to conducting more conventional funds transfers – without reporting the money to French tax authorities.

More money, more problems

That pattern of conduct, and the nature of the interdictions described by Scannell and Prokupecz, raise questions about how long this smuggling of cash might have gone on. The CNN story suggests investigators want to know whether it might have gone into Trump's inauguration accounts — or whether it continues to this day....

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/07/6002...ions-on-the-hunt-for-duffel-bags-full-of-cash


PS 20,000,000 Euros = $24,597,000.00 (US Dollars). That's a whole lot of suitcases and duffel bags!
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No proof. Mere speculation.

Stormy didn’t pan out?
 
Centerleftfl said:
I think it is safe to say that PUTIN WANTED TRUMP TO WIN! Follow the money! Note the very last sentence. There has never been an accounting of TRUMP'S MASSIVE inauguration fund. They've refused. Hey RACHEL (Maddow), WHERE ARE YOU?? She's been mentioning this periodically for months.
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[h=1]We Know Trump's Inauguration Donors.[/h]Financial Election Commission disclosures released on Wednesday show that some uberwealthy donors helped Trump defray the cost: Million-dollar givers included investment firm founder Charles Schwab, mining entrepreneur Christopher Cline and Bank of America. Investor and casino tycoon Sheldon Adelson spent $5 million. Those megadonors contributed to Trump's monster inauguration haul of nearly $107 million, the FEC forms show. That sum doubles President Barack Obama's then-record inauguration donations in 2009, which totaled around $53 million.
Though this report shows how much money Trump's inauguration brought in, it does not detail exactly how that money was spent. Presidential inauguration committees do not have to disclose that to the FEC.


https://www.npr.org/2017/04/19/5247...-donors-where-the-money-went-is-another-story
 
countryboy said:
It's entirely true. We needed a special counsel to bust a Dutch lawyer and sentence him to 30 days in jail? Go back to sleep Frank, you need your rest to get in 9 holes tomorrow.
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Keep repeating that nonsense...and you MAY convince yourself, although even that is in doubt.

Cannot play. Screwed up my right hand with a massive splinter. Still mending. Golf is a couple of weeks away.
 
countryboy said:
Not how criminal investigations work. You must have reasonable suspicion of a crime. If Trump is not a target, there is no reasonable suspicion of a crime. There was absolutely no need for a special counsel.
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And right now all they have confirmed is a meeting where Trump's kid met with people from the Russian government to talk about Russian adoptions.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Keep repeating that nonsense...and you MAY convince yourself, although even that is in doubt.

Cannot play. Screwed up my right hand with a massive splinter. Still mending. Golf is a couple of weeks away.
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How is it nonsense? Why exactly did we need a SC for any of these process "crimes"? I thought the whole reason for the SC was Trump/Russia collusion. There is none.

All hard time giving aside, I don't really wish you any harm, and I do hope you heal from your injury. How'd you get a big splinter? I got one the size of a matchstick one time, and it hurt like hell to have the ER remove.
 
hvilleherb said:
And right now all they have confirmed is a meeting where Trump's kid met with people from the Russian government to talk about Russian adoptions.
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Yeah, funny thing about that is, there's a shit ton of circumstantial evidence IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE that that meeting was actually part of the Hillary/Russian collusion scheme. The lawyer who met with Trump Jr met with Fusion GPS before, and after the meeting with Jr.
 
Mueller's a busy guy.....doing nothing of importance..cost taxpayers over $7,000,000 as of Dec. 2017
..His record so far,

Michael Flynn lying...

The special counsel filed a 32-count indictment on Feb. 22 against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort tax evasion and bank fraud.

Rick Gates 11 counts related to filing false income tax returns and three counts of failure to report foreign bank and financial accounts.

George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty in 2017 to making false statements to the FBI regarding “the timing, extent and nature of his relationships and interactions with certain foreign nationals

Alex van der Zwaan charged with lying to federal investigators

Richard Pinedo, pleaded guilty to using stolen identities to set up the bank accounts earlier this month.

A grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies in February for allegedly interfering in the 2016 election. In the case, Mueller details a sophisticated plot to wage “information warfare” on the U.S. However, the Justice Department said the indictment does not allege that the interference changed the outcome of the election.
 
countryboy said:
How is it nonsense? Why exactly did we need a SC for any of these process "crimes"? I thought the whole reason for the SC was Trump/Russia collusion. There is none.
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YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT YET.

But one way to find out if there was or was not...was with the SC.

And the scope of the SC...is very wide.

All hard time giving aside, I don't really wish you any harm, and I do hope you heal from your injury. How'd you get a big splinter? I got one the size of a matchstick one time, and it hurt like hell to have the ER remove.
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I don't take any of this stuff personal, CB. I've been doing the forum thing for 20 years now...and busting balls is a huge part of EVERY forum I've ever been part of.

Got the splinter on a railing in our bedroom. Somehow the railing had gotten a small splintering...and when I ran my hand on it...bang. Goddam thing hurt like hell from the first second.

Then...because I am a jerk...I started digging for the splinter with a tweezers that I did not sterilize first.

Dumb move.

Never found the splinter (apparently it was in too deep)...and instead managed to infect the wound. My right index finger was swollen to twice its normal size. Finally had to go to my doctor...who did more digging...and he was not able to get the splinter out either. Antibiotics (which I hate to take has gotten some of the swelling down), but still some left. We'll see what happens. Thanks for asking.
 
Frank Apisa said:
YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT YET.

But one way to find out if there was or was not...was with the SC.

And the scope of the SC...is very wide.
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That's the problem. If they had some reasonable suspicion of a crime, and evidence of said crime, why does the scope need to be ever expanding? They are investigating a person, not a crime. That's not how our justice system is supposed to work.



Frank Apisa said:
I don't take any of this stuff personal, CB. I've been doing the forum thing for 20 years now...and busting balls is a huge part of EVERY forum I've ever been part of.

Got the splinter on a railing in our bedroom. Somehow the railing had gotten a small splintering...and when I ran my hand on it...bang. Goddam thing hurt like hell from the first second.

Then...because I am a jerk...I started digging for the splinter with a tweezers that I did not sterilize first.

Dumb move.

Never found the splinter (apparently it was in too deep)...and instead managed to infect the wound. My right index finger was swollen to twice its normal size. Finally had to go to my doctor...who did more digging...and he was not able to get the splinter out either. Antibiotics (which I hate to take has gotten some of the swelling down), but still some left. We'll see what happens. Thanks for asking.
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Lol, I've been known to dig for stuff with a utility knife. But I always use a brand new blade, and I always wipe it off with 92% isopropyl. :D
 
countryboy said:
That's the problem. If they had some reasonable suspicion of a crime, and evidence of said crime, why does the scope need to be ever expanding? They are investigating a person, not a crime. That's not how our justice system is supposed to work.
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noise said:
I don't see Mueller's name listed in the article
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Except he issued ALL the search warrants for all the interdictions, not to mention he's the HEAD of THE investigation. My dog knows that now!

(YOU really didn't type that??)
 
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kudzu said:
Wow... These guys think they are untouchable.....
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I think they're so past that now. Now it's a sphincter response when they wake up and turn on their computers. (Unless the only go to the FIX News site).

PS. They're some very very nervous nevertheless pissed off OLIGARCHS in Russia today too.
 
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countryboy said:
Not how criminal investigations work. You must have reasonable suspicion of a crime. If Trump is not a target, there is no reasonable suspicion of a crime. There was absolutely no need for a special counsel.
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You mean like starting out with WHITEWATER and ending up with blowjobs?
 
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