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there are facts in that article, just because they you want to pretend it isn't real, doesn't make the facts not real
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there are facts in that article, just because they you want to pretend it isn't real, doesn't make the facts not real
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Herman Cain: "I haven’t done any surveys to find out how many Muslims are loyal to the constitution. But I don’t know any Muslims who will subvert sharia law for our laws. That’s the problem I have. And I don’t have time to do the research to find out."
So, none of you master debaters have any examples of attempts to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government?
Link up.
http://www.postonpolitics.com/2011/...n-in-palm-beach-elaborates-on-muslim-remarks/So, none of you master debaters have any examples of attempts to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government?
Link up.
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no surprise legion troll ignores links when provided....he always does this.
links were given, and ignored...yet another great "debate" with the troll
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No evidence of Cain's claims? Wait, what's this?
http://www.drudge.com/archive/124538/muslims-want-impose-sharia-law-america
http://www.drudge.com/archive/124538/muslims-want-impose-sharia-law-america
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what is the matter epic...facts that don't validate your beliefs are ignored? you asked for links and then you ignore them. i guess i should not expect more from a troll
Seriously? The first link is . . . I'm not sure what the hell it is. The second link is to an article about the rejection of sharia law and the third link is to an NPR piece about how sharia law is rejected to the extent it conflicts with US law.
Weird.
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No substantiation for Cain's claims that Muslims are trying to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government, I see.
He has company in the baseless-claims department.
On Fox News' Fox & Friends, right-wing pundit and former Assistant Secretary of Defense Frank Gaffney baselessly claimed that "Muslim Brotherhood front organizations" are influencing the U.S. government and are pushing "subversive techniques" to impose Sharia law in the U.S.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201101310023
He has company in the baseless-claims department.
On Fox News' Fox & Friends, right-wing pundit and former Assistant Secretary of Defense Frank Gaffney baselessly claimed that "Muslim Brotherhood front organizations" are influencing the U.S. government and are pushing "subversive techniques" to impose Sharia law in the U.S.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201101310023
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nice of you to ignore the initial attempt to get sharia law introduced into our courts, and was used in a ruling, the lawyer claims sharia law is used with court issues, one link is from folks who want sharia...and the NPR link states sharia is already used in our courts.
yeah, it is weird you failed to see any of that. but unlike the troll, you at least responded with a discussion.
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Muslims are trying to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government?
Frank Gaffney and his friends can relax: Sneaky Muslims aren’t going to impose Sharia Law on the US and take away their bacon cheeseburgers.
It’s impossible.
But you’d never know that from what’s pouring out of outfits like Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy, or from right-wing bloggers across the land, all of whom say the threat is real — real enough to spawn 15 proposed state and federal laws against it.
The truth? Sharia is religious law, and no religious law can be imposed on the US without amending the Constitution — twice — to repeal both the opening clause of the First Amendment, and the Supremacy Clause in Article 6.
So how can Sharia Law be imposed on the US?
No one seems to know.
Meanwhile, the so-called examples of how Sharia Law is already being used in American courts are frauds. Take a look at them and you find out what they’re talking about are arbitrations — not trials under civil or criminal law. And two parties in an arbitration can agree to be bound by Star Fleet regulations without crossing the Constitution.
http://reinbachsobserver.com/?p=578
I don' know what "the initial attempt" is or what "ruling" you are talking about. The piece that is purportedly an interview is so replete with obvious errors that its reliability as a source of information is seriously questionable and I'm not inclined to read it. The link from folks that want sharia is particularly useless. Who gives a fuck what they want? The NPR piece says that sharia is treated as Jewish and Christian law is treated and that, to the extent it diverges from secular law, is not enforced.
Like I said, weird.
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Fox News' Trace Gallagher uncritically reported the false claim that "the courts are increasingly consulting and using Sharia law," which he attributed to the sponsor of a ballot measure banning the use of international and Sharia law in Oklahoma. In fact, the sponsor himself has failed to identify a single case in which Sharia law was successfully used in any U.S. court decision.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201011100009
http://mediamatters.org/research/201011100009
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you obviously have a difficult time reading simple facts. the appellate case overturned a superior court case that allowed sharia law to be the basis of it's decision. and you finally admit that sharia law is in fact used in our judicial system. that is what epic ask links for and i gave it. why you have to pretend otherwise is truly bizarre. i even gave a link showing that there are muslims trying to implement sharia law...you can discount their attempts all you want, but epic asked for examples of them TRYING and that is what i gave. you and him want to pretend there are no examples of them TRYING.
head in sand syndrome.
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how is it that hypocritical? stating a fact is now hypocrisy in dunceler's world...LOL, you're losing it more and more each day
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No examples of attempts to gradually ease Sharia law and the Muslim faith into our government....
Legal experts contacted by ABC News said they did not know of one instance of a judge in the U.S. invoking sharia in rendering a decision.
"Cases of first impression are rare," said Jim Cohen, a professor at the Fordham University School of Law in New York City, adding, "I have never heard of a case" involving sharia.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/okla...ic-sharia-laws-apply/story?id=10908521&page=2
Legal experts contacted by ABC News said they did not know of one instance of a judge in the U.S. invoking sharia in rendering a decision.
"Cases of first impression are rare," said Jim Cohen, a professor at the Fordham University School of Law in New York City, adding, "I have never heard of a case" involving sharia.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/okla...ic-sharia-laws-apply/story?id=10908521&page=2
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Legal experts contacted by ABC News said they did not know of one instance of a judge in the U.S. invoking sharia in rendering a decision.
"Cases of first impression are rare," said Jim Cohen, a professor at the Fordham University School of Law in New York City, adding, "I have never heard of a case" involving sharia.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/okla...ic-sharia-laws-apply/story?id=10908521&page=2
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You are aware of the hierarchy of courts in the American legal system, are you not? And that an appellate court overturning a superior court means that the superior court got something wrong, in this case, applying sharia? So, sharia was rejected in the courts of New Jersey, and emphatically so.
I believe I said that the NPR piece states that it is treated as Jewish or Christian law is treated and to the extent it conflicts with secular law, it is rejected.
Oh, so it's the trying that bothers you. OK. Personally, I have no problem with people exercising their First Amendment rights, but that's just me. Carry on.
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did you read what epic asked for? he asked for examples of attempts to implement sharia law into our government. i gave multiple examples of attempts. trying to implement sharia law into our government, in the examples provided, have zero to do with first amendment, save for the group that is trying to implement sharia law.
you blowing a gasket and not understanding what is being talked about. i have a hunch you think the examples really bother me or frighten me. they don't. examples of attempts were asked for...i gave examples and you're blowing it way out of proportion and trying to make it something it isn't. i can understand epic troll ignoring the examples, but expected slightly better from you.