Great question Jarod. I doubt you get a response.
Though I do agree that second wave feminism in the West has alienated large numbers of men. It affects conservative men significantly greater in particular the religious right as they have the highest divorce rates of any demographic but even then the divorce rate in the U.S. for all demographics is horrible and the inescapable fact is that 75% of the divorces in the U.S. are initiated by women. That issue is exacerbated by U.S. family law being deeply biased in favor of women. There is little, if any, equity for men in family law courts in the U.S. particularly where matters of child custody which is biased so against men that women can literally ignore court orders and settlements with virtual impunity.
Social media has certainly made the situation worse since it’s advent. Hypergomy is a natural behavior for women as they are always in pursuit of the highest status males available.
Prior to social media women were competing for the top 20% of men by status in this country. Shortly after Social Media became ubiquitous that dropped to 10%. It now stands at under 5%. This is primarily because Social Media has made it easier for women to pursue the highest status males.
This advent has been incredibly destabilizing to the institution of marriage. Due to the dramatic increase of women’s hypergomous behavior it has become extremely risky from a financial standpoint. The average young man desiring to marry is facing better than 50% odds of being divorced within five years and losing everything they ever worked for including their own children.
This in turn has created very large numbers of young INCELS who are beyond frustrated. Many of those have just flat out given up on western women and started the MGTOW movement (Men Going Their Own Way).
These young men are also asking a very perceptive question in regards to the institution of marriage and that is under the current circumstances in the U.S. other than sex, what do western women bring to the table that would encourage a man to pursue marriage with them and the honest answer many men are concluding is “Not much”. To which they naturally conclude “So why in the world would I take such a terrible financial risk of losing everything after five years of marriage on average?” Their obvious answer is under the current circumstances they won’t. It’s just simply not in their best interest.
That has lead many men to travel abroad to find women who are not invested in second wave feminism and marrying them instead. The fact that those marriages are far more successful, and by that I mean their divorce rates are far lower than the national average, speaks volumes.
Needless to say the feminist response to this has largely been outrage. Why I can’t fathom. It’s like the feminist thinking is “We have rejected you but how dare you choose someone else instead of living in misery.”.
And I can tell you from my own experience of marrying a woman from another country the vicious comments I have had directed at me and her personally by feminist.
I’ve heard all the stereotypes. The main one being “you can’t find a woman here so you traveled to a third world country and exploited a young, poor, ignorant, uneducated naïve peasant for your own sexual gratification.”
The truth is my wife is from a middle class family, graduated Suma Cum Laude from high school, was offered a Full Ride academic scholarship to the Philippine Military Institute which she turned down as she did not desire a military career. Instead she graduated from a UP campus (which is equivalent to an accredited State University in the U.S.) and graduated with high honors with a business degree. One that she has put to good use by stint of hard work and well above average smarts.
I’ve heard so many insults from feminists women, and this isn’t a political thing as I’ve heard them from conservative women and liberal women alike, that it’s not even funny.
I almost always laugh those criticisms off as jealousy as I have been the happiest and most content in my life since I married her.
One time I did lose my temper when in public a feminist said to my face and in the presence of my wife that “She didn’t see why I was so proud about marrying a mail order bride.” In the most dismissive manner.
Wrong thing to say. I came out my chair furious and shouted at her “Are you calling my wife a whore?!”. She turned beet red in the face and said “I didn’t call your wife a whore.”. My wife calmly said “Yes you did. Where I come from calling a woman a mail order bride is the same thing as calling her a whore.”.
I turned to that idiots boy friend and straight out told him “You’d better talk to your woman or you and I are going to have words.”.
He was just as pissed as I was and told her to STFU and literally grabbed her by the arm
and walked her out of the establishment.
So I very much understand many men’s resentments towards second wave feminism because they are being taught that the worst sin a man can commit is to be born a white straight male and automatically an oppressor of women.
Then Democrats can’t understand why white working class men vote against their own economic interests by voting Republican. Maybe they may be more clued in on their best interests than one might give them credit for.
My only disagreement with them is it’s not political. Conservative women tend to be as entitled and self centered and hypergomous as liberal women given by the evidence that they initiate more divorces than liberal women do, though not by much.
So Jarod I tell you this to give you something to think about as I know you probably have had little experience in these matters and good for you but you clearly know I’m no authoritarian knuckle dragger and that many of the men here hostile towards second wave feminism do not articulate their frustrations well at all they are by no means the wrong for feeling resentful as they are clearly being shown here in the U.S. that the majority of women here aren’t interested in them and don’t want them.
So I don’t blame them for their resentments. I can seriously relate to them. I just mainly disagree with them on how to deal with them and throwing out the baby with the bath water by being persuaded by some authoritarian politician who could care less, in reality, about them isn’t a solution.
