Mythical DGU caught on camera

countryboy said:
This case has nothing to do with thievery, a woman was viciously attacked because she didn't get a customer's food out quickly enough. The rest of your post is pure nonsense. Did you even watch the video? Spend some time watching this channel, you'll see how wrong you are. Evil exists, and we have every right to defend against it. Self defense has nothing to do with "blowing away intruders", it has to do with protecting ourselves, our loved ones, and innocent bystanders against those who would do us harm.

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion that "most just point and shoot, as novices"? This YouTube channel certainly doesn't promote that.
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If they did, we'd be hearing about a burglar in a hospital, not dead, burglar, after dead burglar, and gun crazies all around, hooting about it like emasculated retards. Theft is no reason to fire a gun, and kill someone, like the NRA slaves say. A Christian definitely shouldn't he shooting to kill, as it goes against one of the most basic of basic commandments. If you're a Christian, you might want to figure it out, because big G upstairs isn't going to favor someone taking a life over secular goods. You shoot to kill only in dire situations. As a Christian it's still not justified, but it's not damning since it was a no options scenario. So any Christian gun owners should learn defensive gun tactics. Maybe if gun crazies touted defensive gun usage, instead of talking about blowing away intruders like it makes them some kind big shot, those type of arguments would be apt. Any sane gun owner should distance themselves from these people, and let it be known what proper gun usage is.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Fuck legal, you'll kill someone for snatching your wife's corporate state meds but you won't breach the "legality" of a plant she would never, could never become addicted to? Move. You would kill, but not relocate or side step an utterly ridiculous law.
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I don't need to run the risk of some idiot cop thinking a SWAT raid would look good on his arrest record, so no......for the present time i'm not going to go down that side and relocating, at this point, is not an option because our son is buried here. try a little 'liberal' understanding of someones position and circumstances before attempting to look stupid for berating them.
 
Nordberg said:
You should. He would have been better served using a baseball bat or a cue stick. That is not what guns are for. You should have thought that thru.
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now I question your so called military experience. As a Marine, I was taught how to use a rifle as a weapon in multiple ways, like using the butt of the rifle to strike an enemy with, or using the barrel end to strike in the face, with or without a bayonet. what branch were you in?
 
Nordberg said:
No. they should turn the other cheek. More guns than people. Not hard to figure it must happen sometimes. Lot less than people shooting family and themselves.,
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I prefer to defend my family, myself and my property. You can turn the other cheek if you wish.
 
Jade Dragon said:
It doesn't really matter, it's rarely used, as most just point, and shoot, as novices. Why even throughout forums like this, you have gun jocky's touting about blowing away intruders, like it's some kind of noble act. The reasoning behind a gun is a deterrent, because taking a life because they swipe some goods is rather sick. And to think some of those nanobytes say they are Christian. Maybe gun ownership should require a class in effective defensive usage, to keep point, shoot, kill, from being the ingrained idea for some.
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Its not that THEY ATTEMPT TO "SWIPE" some goods, its the (MO)/ fashion in which they engage in swiping some goods. Goods that often time would have simply been given them through charity if they had but asked and demonstrated the need. Its the VIOLENCE and THREAT of placing the innocent in danger. Even the Christ demanded the right of self defense in protecting both life and property by the use of weapons when required (Luke 22:35-36) (Luke 11:21) and even more the scriptures detail the fact that each person is self responsible for providing for his own household through the effort of his own labor not through theft or begging (depending upon others), and if you do not take care of your own you are worse than an infidel (1 Tim. 5:8)

Why does the left insist upon defending the wicked and prosecuting the just? :palm: Self defense in protecting both life and property is more than allowed or expected...its RIGHTEOUS.
 
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ThatOwlWoman said:
What an excellent idea. I know that Missouri used to require such a class before a person could get a concealed carry permit. It was 8 hours of instruction that included a proficiency-with-your-firearm test as well. You had to be able to hit the target at a range of 7 yards. Do we really want ppl running around with guns that can't hit a target at 7 yards??
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Same in OK.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I think this is a very good idea if we want to live in a world where random ppl are wandering around with lethal weapons in their pockets, purses, etc. What you think, friend?
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I don’t question classes for concealed carry. I think they are excellent and conceived after careful consideration. I am not a proponent for open carry. I do not think classes or undo regulation should be necessary just to purchase a weapon though. The instantaneous background checks are sufficient, IMO.

Edit: I should add since you a fairly new acquaintance that I carry everywhere I am legal to carry. My weapon is like my pocketknife in that I put it on every day. I carefully follow the law and make it a point to know the laws in the states to,which I travel.
 
leaningright said:
I don’t question classes for concealed carry. I think they are excellent and conceived after careful consideration. I am not a proponent for open carry. I do not think classes or undo regulation should be necessary just to purchase a weapon though. The instantaneous background checks are sufficient, IMO.

Edit: I should add since you a fairly new acquaintance that I carry everywhere I am legal to carry. My weapon is like my pocketknife in that I put it on every day. I carefully follow the law and make it a point to know the laws in the states to,which I travel.
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I'm cool with required classes to own a death-dealer.... open carry, concealed, just because you want it.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
damn good thing you're squad mates never had to trust you to watch their backs in combat then.
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So you think war in a combat zone is the same as dealing with a teenage burgler who has no weapons? Just shoot the kid in the face because your fellows in the armed service demand it. You make no sense.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
now I question your so called military experience. As a Marine, I was taught how to use a rifle as a weapon in multiple ways, like using the butt of the rifle to strike an enemy with, or using the barrel end to strike in the face, with or without a bayonet. what branch were you in?
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So. You could use it as a pry bar if you want to. But it is designed as a shooting weapon. It ejects bullets at 3000 fps . Not made to be a hammer.
 
Nordberg said:
So you think war in a combat zone is the same as dealing with a teenage burgler who has no weapons? Just shoot the kid in the face because your fellows in the armed service demand it. You make no sense.
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if there is an individual, or multiple individuals, have broken in to your home, you're a moron if you DON'T consider it a combat situation because YOUR life, or the lives of your family, could be in danger. YOU make no sense, but that's an often times hazard of being a stupid liberal.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
if there is an individual, or multiple individuals, have broken in to your home, you're a moron if you DON'T consider it a combat situation because YOUR life, or the lives of your family, could be in danger. YOU make no sense, but that's an often times hazard of being a stupid liberal.
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The guy had it happen once. When he figured out likely when and where, he thought just like you. Tough guy who could shoot someone in the face if he tried to break in.Yeah, we know you could mow people down if you were terrified. He thought so too. The point I make is that it isn't that easy to do. I am sure you are a special, special case that would have no feelings about shooting someone. That is whats wrong with being an aggressive pugnacious righty. You can talk tough as hell. But you don''t know.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
and a baseball bat was made to hit baseballs, but that doesn't mean I can't use it to hit golfballs or an assailants head.
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Not the same. A gun is designed to shoot projectiles and kill people. You can use it for croquet if you want. But your logic has gone askew.
 
Nordberg said:
So you think war in a combat zone is the same as dealing with a teenage burgler who has no weapons? Just shoot the kid in the face because your fellows in the armed service demand it. You make no sense.
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That would be unwise, head shots are difficult. They always teach to shoot center body mass.
 
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