nano Thermite found in all 911 dust samples

Damocles said:
Oh, I'll be "going away" but it isn't because my "arguments are stupid", it's because you are a block of stone who refuses to listen to any information other than your own.

I took yours, I asked people who would know, and I found out differently than you and I suggest you do the same. People with agendas push them, talk to people without them.
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I talk to people with and without agendas all the time brother .. I'd offer I do it more than you. It was my job to do so.

I'm comfortable with you believing whatever you choose.
 
No amount of evidence, no matter how valid, no matter how thoroughly researched and studied, no matter anything, can break through the power of cognitive dissonance. It is a POWERFUL mindfuck and nowhere it is more evidenced than in the fairy-tale of 9/11 ..
a story that only an American or a moron would believe.

What's comical is we have so called educated people believing our own country brought the building down. Laughable you retards.
 
Topspin said:
No amount of evidence, no matter how valid, no matter how thoroughly researched and studied, no matter anything, can break through the power of cognitive dissonance. It is a POWERFUL mindfuck and nowhere it is more evidenced than in the fairy-tale of 9/11 ..
a story that only an American or a moron would believe.

What's comical is we have so called educated people believing our own country brought the building down. Laughable you retards.
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Oh no, our government has never lied or decieved this nation into anything.

We have never lied our way into war and anyone who believes that is unamerican.

McKinley was right when he told Americans the USS Maine had been sunk by the Spanish.

We had no idea the Japanese were about to attack Peral Harbor.

The Gulf of Tonkin Incident happened just as Johnson said it did.

And Bush found the WMD he said Iraq had.

In fact, we are Americans and we would never even think of such a thing .. which is why the documents that validate Operation Northwoods, which is a blueprint for 9/11 .. can't be real documents and can't have been signed the The Joint Chief of Staff.

... amazing.
 
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Oh and by the way, .. it was just coincidence that the US government was running FIVE wargames in the area at the same time 9/11 was happening .. war games that included .. hijacked airplanes .. which had NORAD .. which is completely ABSENT from this fairy-tale .. the most sophisticated air defense mechanism in the world guarding the most watched airspace on planet earth .. ABSENT from the fairy-tale .. had NORAD air-controllers confused whether reports of hijacking were real or part of the excersise.

And of course this information about secret American military excerises was readily available to Bin Laden and his band of cavemen.

:lmao:

This shit is soooo stupid.
 
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ib1yysguy said:
Stupid as shit. You know what thermite is? Iron oxide and zinc. That's right, rust and bicycle frames. Two of the most common metals found in modern life. Trace amounts of rust and car parts is hardly evidence of anything more sinister than 19 highly educated Islamic demagogues with box cutters.
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thanks, mr science!! LOL what a clown
 
If this super-energetic nano thermite did exist, it should have erupted in a gigantic fireball when the building collapse created the dust cloud in the presence of an ignition source. The WTC dust cloud should have exploded like a massive grain elevator under those conditions. Ref: Imperial Sugar Plant Explosion at Port Wentworth - sugar is far less energetic than thermite.
 
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You can't even look at thermite when it's burning. That much thermite burning would have been impossible to deny because the building would be burning brighter than the frikkin sun.
 
ib1yysguy said:
You can't even look at thermite when it's burning. That much thermite burning would have been impossible to deny because the building would be burning brighter than the frikkin sun.
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Not to mention how long it would have taken to do the damage needed to drop the building. It's just mind-boggling. There would have had to be Tens of Thousands of Tons of the crap around, it would have been blazing.

There are legitimate questions, this isn't one of them.
 
evince said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite


Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide, which produces an aluminothermic reaction known as a thermite reaction. It is not explosive, but can create short bursts of extremely high temperatures focused on a very small area for a short period of time.

Thermites can be a diverse class of compositions. The fuels are often aluminium, magnesium, calcium, titanium, zinc, silicon, and boron. The oxidizers can be boron(III) oxide, silicon(IV) oxide, chromium(III) oxide, manganese(IV) oxide, iron(III) oxide, iron(II,III) oxide, copper(II) oxide, and lead(II,II,IV) oxide. [1]
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You ever seen thermite burn? It doesn't look like 9/11.
 
blackascoal said:
The FEMA-sponsored Building Performance Study of 2002 contains evidence of melted steel caused by sulfidation and oxidation. This is found in the "Limited Metallurgical Examination" written by Professor Jonathan Barnett. The NIST report, however, fails to address the evidence of sulfidation found in the structural steel from the WTC.

Barnett examined two pieces of melted steel, one from the WTC 7, the other from the Twin Towers. About the first piece, Barnett wrote: "The thinning of the steel occurred by a high-temperature corrosion due to the combination of oxidation and sulfidation." This was done by "a eutectic mixture of iron, oxygen, and sulfur that liquefied the steel," he concluded.

Barnett found the same sulfidation in the piece of melted steel from the Twin Towers. "The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event," Barnett wrote. "No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified."

This evidence would be CRUCIAL to any real investigation of the events, but it was ignored.

When Jones first brought this to the attention of the American people he was attacked and mocked, and the claim that there was evidence of thermite or molten steel that should not have been there was ridiculed .. now that it's undeniably proven .. "those are just bicycle parts."

What you demonstrate my good brother is that the power of cognitive dissonance knows no bounds. It is not bound by political party nor ideology. It is not bound by race, class, gender, sexual persuasion, or faith.

It is a POWERFUL mindfuck.

There are about a thousand sane, honest, and intelligent questions that should be asked of 9/11. Because the events as described defies the laws of science, physics, and egineering with anomalies that have never happened before in the history of Man. Like fires melting giant buildings. It has never ever, ever, ever, fucking EVER happened before in the history of Man, buildings, or fire. There is no science, history, or engineering that suggests it is even possible. It cannot be replicated in a lab.



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Really? It has never IN HISTORY happened? You are an expert on all structures throughout history? Because I'm pretty sure that I've seen buildings collapse from fire before.
 
froggie said:
Superfreak, there are those of us who just want the truth and we look at every aspect. i had not seen the Thermite theory, until today.

What about NORAD and the lies the DoD told, i would love someone to debunk those and I would be a very happy person.

It is the thing that I still can't find an answer that makes me happy. The President was not at the WH on 9/11, thankfully and if he had been and the plane had not crashed in the field, would it have made it to the WH?

If you can show me facts to clam my mind on this I would greatly appreciate it. I don't believe the Bush administration had a hand in planning the attack, but I just want to know why so many systems failed on that day!

I just want HONEST answers for a change.
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As a guy who works for NORAD, I can tell you that we didn't have the capability to stop 9/11. Reason one is that we did not have interior radar sites, and the image on the old scopes was a big blank over the interior of the US and Canada. We faught a Cold War mission that assumed any attack would be a missile or aircraft launched at us from the outside. Reason two is that no one in NORAD, not even the CINC of NORAD, had the authority to shoot down a civilian airliner. Now we have people in our chain of command that do.

That is all.
 
Antiaris Toxicaria said:
Really? It has never IN HISTORY happened? You are an expert on all structures throughout history? Because I'm pretty sure that I've seen buildings collapse from fire before.
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Then that should be real easy for you to prove.

Steel-frame structures cannot globally collapse due to gravity and local failures alone. It's not possible, can't be replicated in a lab. There is too much redundancy in the steel.

It's not possible, cannot be replicated in a lab.

I defy you to find ANY examples of steel-frame buildings collapsing from fire in HISTORY before or AFTER 9/11.

No steel-structure building has ever collapsed due to fire in the entire history of mankind, then in one day 3 seperate buildings do? The odds of that are astronomical. And the odds of any building UNIFORMLY collapsing at free-fall speed due to local failures .. three times on the same day .. reaches the level of absolutely moronic.

And to the argument about the planes hitting with such force, or this and that about "gallons of fuel" ... in 1945 The Empire State Building was hit by a B-25 bomber. The fire burned longer than the towers and was not as well constructed as the towers. The building did not collapse.

In May 1988 a fire at the Interstate Bank Building in Los Angeles destroyed four floors and damaged a fifth floor of the modern 62-story building. The fire burned for four hours. The building did not collapse.

In February 1991 a fire gutted eight floors of the 38-story One Meridian Plaza building in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The fire burned for 18 hours. The building did not collapse.

In October 2004 in Caracas, Venezuela, a fire in a 56-story office tower burned for more 17 hours and spread over 26 floors. Two floors collapsed, but the underlying floors did not, and the building did not collapse.

In February 2005 there was another "towering inferno" in Taiwan. The fire burned for about an hour and a half, but the building never came close to collapsing.

Also in February 2005 the 32-story Windsor Building in Madrid, Spain, caught fire and burned for two days. The building was completely engulfed in flames at one point. Several top floors collapsed onto lower ones, yet the building remained standing.

In 1975 WTC1 itself survived a serious fire. It started on the 11th floor and spread to six other floors, burning for three hours. How did WTC1 survive a 3-hour fire in 1975 but completely collapsed on 9/11 as the result of a fire lasting less than two hours?

HISTORY is full of examples of building fires, including buuldings hit by planes. NONE have ever collapsed as they did on 9/11, none have since, and none ever will. It is impossible.

Then explain how such an event could bring down two giant buildings that collapse in the exact same science-defying manner, yet using the exact same catalyst, only cause such small damage to a much smaller building .. only leaving a 16/14ft hole .. didn't burn the pages off a book right next to the impact site .. didn't burn a wooden stool .. YET, the plane, passengers, giant 7ft tall indestructable engines, wings, tail, luggage, and most everything you'd expect in a crash site, just magically disappears.

That shit is amazing.

They just .. pooff .. disappeared.

And even though there are cameras all over the Pentagon, including on the roof, all we could get was one grainy picture that doesn't show anything.

.. amazing

How about pictures from the camera that was immediately confiscated by the FBI from the gas station right across the street? Don't we get to see those? .. No, we don't. .. and given the flight path the "plane" had to take, by the "hijackers" were flying over the gas station they had to be at about tree top level .. which would have blown the windows out the station and the roar of the plane going overhead would have been deafening .. and the plane would have left a wake of blown out windows and even over-turned cars as it flew over the freeway system right next to the Pentagon.

But I do understand that asking these questions is unamerican.

So I'm not asking.
 
Threedee said:
As a guy who works for NORAD, I can tell you that we didn't have the capability to stop 9/11. Reason one is that we did not have interior radar sites, and the image on the old scopes was a big blank over the interior of the US and Canada. We faught a Cold War mission that assumed any attack would be a missile or aircraft launched at us from the outside. Reason two is that no one in NORAD, not even the CINC of NORAD, had the authority to shoot down a civilian airliner. Now we have people in our chain of command that do.

That is all.
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Prior to just three months before 9/11, that chain of command looked very different and Commanders in the field were stripped of all authority to act in the event of hijacked planes.

In June 2001, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Instruction CJCSI 3610.01A was issued for the purpose of providing "guidance to the Deputy Director for Operations (DDO), National Military Command Center (NMCC), and operational commanders in the event of an aircraft piracy (hijacking) or request for destruction of derelict airborne objects." This new instruction superseded CJCSI 3610.01 of 31 July 1997.

This CJCSI states that "In the event of a hijacking, the NMCC will be notified by the most expeditious means by the FAA. The NMCC will, with the exception of immediate responses as authorized by reference d, forward requests for DOD assistance to the Secretary of Defense for approval."

Thus, authority to respond to civilian hijackings, which had worked successfully for NORAD for 40 years, was changed to transfer all such authority to the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld.

Three months before 9/11, NORAD was essentially issued a stand-down order.

On May 8, 2001 .. just four months before 9/11, Dick Cheney was placed directly in charge of managing the integration of all training exercises throughout the entire federal government and all military agencies. On 9/11 Cheney oversaw multiple war games and terror drills, including several exercises of NORAD.

I was sitting in the congressional hearing on March 11, 2005 when Pentagon Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Richard Myers acknowledged that four military wargames were going on at the same time that the events of 9/11 were unfolding.

The war games included ..

Northern Vigilance, an exercise that pulled Air Force fighters from the east coast of the United States up into Canada and Alaska simulating an attack out of Russia. All of those fighters were rendered useless as the 9/11 plot unfolded - too far away to respond.

One of the components of this drill included "false blips" (radar injects simulating aircraft in flight) placed on FAA radar screens. At one point FAA head Jane Garvey said they suspected up to 11 hijackings on 9/11. They couldn't determine which were real, which were simulated, and which were live-fly military exercises?

Vigilant Warrior, an excersise that simulated using "hijacked aircraft as weapons" as crashing them into federal buildings, including the WTC and the Pentagon.

This was further supported by an April 18 2004 USA Today article titled, "NORAD had drills of jets as weapons." The report cited NORAD officials who confirmed live-fly drills were conducted using hijacked airliners originating from the continental United States used as weapons crashing into targets including the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The specific drill USA Today referred to was "planned in July 2001."

There was also Nothern Guardian and Northern Denial, both of which took planes and resources away from the New York Washington area.

Rice lied when she said she had no idea planes could be used as weapons when in fact, those exact simulated excersises were being conducted while 9/11 was happening .. seriously inhibiting the ability to repond, and intended or unintended, providing perfect cover for the attack.

And, and, and, the US government had plans for CONDUCTING the exact kind of attacks .. using hijacked civilian planes as weapons and flying them into federal buildings as documented in Operation Northwoods.

You work for NORAD .. am I lying?
 
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