nano Thermite found in all 911 dust samples

blackascoal said:
Why was thermite found in ALL samples?

Why did the site stay hot for weeks after the event and how did it become the longest burning site in history (another first) when there is no doubt that fire, nor jet fuel/kerosene, nor airplanes, nor burning insulation, could have possibly caused either to happen?

Why did the Bush Administration remove critical evidence from the crime scenes? (Confirmed by the 9/11 Commission)

If the attack of the WTC is to be believed as told, why was there such relatively little interior and exterior damage at the Pentagon that left little evidence of a large plane crash, only made a small hole, couldn't burn paper, wood, or plastic right next to the crash site, the roof didn't even collapse until half and hour after the impact, no real pictures of the attack even though the Pentagon is set up to take such pictures and no pictures from the confiscated camera from right across the street, with the so-called "hijacker" taking the most difficult path to the Pentagon possible which actuall avoided the more critical and much more easily accessible areas, and with the plane executing an impossible route almost inches off the ground .. by so-called pilots who didn't have enough flying skills to rent a Cessna and two of whom lived with an FBI informant for two years?

Please save the hyperbole and "patriotic" responses and answer the question in a straightforward courtroom manner, if you please.
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Why is there no moon up in the sky??
Stormy weather
 
Threedee said:
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Stupid as shit. You know what thermite is? Iron oxide and zinc. That's right, rust and bicycle frames. Two of the most common metals found in modern life. Trace amounts of rust and car parts is hardly evidence of anything more sinister than 19 highly educated Islamic demagogues with box cutters.
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Jesus, you gotta' be bullshittin' me.

I meant answer that rises above the 8th grade .. make that the 2nd grade.

Traces of bicycle parts and rust would be identified as bicycle parts and rust, not thermite.

And what of the unreacted active thermite that was found?

Is that just bicycle parts?

And what about the other part of my question of why the site stayed hot for so long .. longer than any in history?

Was that bicycle parts burning?

Amazing how stupid people can be. I manitain that you'd have to be an American or a complete moron to believe the fairy-tale.

Here's a glimpse of what the rest of the world thinks about 9/11.

 
BAC, thermite is just powered/ground zinc and rust. You can't identify the difference between manufactured thermite and zinc and rust dust when you see them next to each other because they are the same thing. I can make thermite with my swiss army knife, a few rusty nails, and a bicycle frame. "Unreacted thermite" is just rust and zinc powder that hasn't been brought to ignition temperature.
 
ib1yysguy said:
BAC, thermite is just powered/ground zinc and rust. You can't identify the difference between manufactured thermite and zinc and rust dust when you see them next to each other because they are the same thing. I can make thermite with my swiss army knife, a few rusty nails, and a bicycle frame. "Unreacted thermite" is just rust and zinc powder that hasn't been brought to ignition temperature.
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With all due respect good brother, what you're saying is stupid beyond belief.

What you're suggesting is that there is no way to determine thermite from rust and bicycle parts. How stupid is that?

What you're suggesting is that thermite can be found in all building fires because it's just bicycle parts and there is nothing unusual about it .. when in fact, it'sl a phenomenon never before observed in building fires.

FEMA analyzed samples of molten metal from ground zero that had shown strong evidence of a chemical thermite reaction .. AND

THERMITE WAS NOT USED IN THE CLEANUP OPERATIONS-- FEMA Report Appendix C: WTC Building Performance Study.

Feel free to believe whatever you want, but explain how the site stayed hot longer than any fire in the history of Man .. something that ONLY thermite would produce?

Bicycle parts?
 
blackascoal said:
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We're more than 2,000 views into this thread with over 300 comments .. YET, not one single fairy-tale believer has answered the question of why thermite was present in all three buildings or why the site stayed hot so long when ONLY a thermire reaction could produce.

Not a single one of them.
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Cannot stop laughing.... the biggest fairy tale beleiver on this issue is YOU. You bury your head in the sand every time someone shows you why you are wrong. Then you come back with idiocy like the above and proclaim no one has answered your questions.

Then you post sites like the one which proclaims 'why did pilot x turn over his plane to a 100 pound weakling with a box cutter' as some kind of evidence to support your conspiracy. The very fact that they conveniently ignore that NONE of the planes had only one hijacker.

That same site proclaims 'why did the hijackers (now they pluralize it) wait until they were 280 miles away to take over the plane' again as if that was proof of your conspiracy. Probably had nothing to do with... oh I don't know... they waited until the fasten your seat belt light came off so that they could get up casually and walk to the front of the plane so as not to prematurely alert the flight crew or anything? Nah, it couldn't be something so simple as that. It must be a conspiracy.
 
It's not just a building fire, BAC. A tower collapsing and crushing 400 cars (what are car engines made out of - zinc - and frames? - aluminum) into powder and mixing it into a huge cloud of rusty metals makes traces of thermite. It's really that simple.
 
ib1yysguy said:
It's not just a building fire, BAC. A tower collapsing and crushing 400 cars (what are car engines made out of - zinc - and frames? - aluminum) into powder and mixing it into a huge cloud of rusty metals makes traces of thermite. It's really that simple.
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Answered again, and again, and again...
 
blackascoal said:
With all due respect good brother, what you're saying is stupid beyond belief.

What you're suggesting is that there is no way to determine thermite from rust and bicycle parts. How stupid is that?

What you're suggesting is that thermite can be found in all building fires because it's just bicycle parts and there is nothing unusual about it .. when in fact, it'sl a phenomenon never before observed in building fires.

FEMA analyzed samples of molten metal from ground zero that had shown strong evidence of a chemical thermite reaction .. AND

THERMITE WAS NOT USED IN THE CLEANUP OPERATIONS-- FEMA Report Appendix C: WTC Building Performance Study.

Feel free to believe whatever you want, but explain how the site stayed hot longer than any fire in the history of Man .. something that ONLY thermite would produce?

Bicycle parts?
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Please... do tell us... in that FEMA report.... Appendix C... WHAT page does it say that thermite was not used in the cleanup. I think you may have referred to the wrong appendix, because that one does not appear to state any such thing.
 
Superfreak said:
Cannot stop laughing.... the biggest fairy tale beleiver on this issue is YOU. You bury your head in the sand every time someone shows you why you are wrong. Then you come back with idiocy like the above and proclaim no one has answered your questions.

Then you post sites like the one which proclaims 'why did pilot x turn over his plane to a 100 pound weakling with a box cutter' as some kind of evidence to support your conspiracy. The very fact that they conveniently ignore that NONE of the planes had only one hijacker.

That same site proclaims 'why did the hijackers (now they pluralize it) wait until they were 280 miles away to take over the plane' again as if that was proof of your conspiracy. Probably had nothing to do with... oh I don't know... they waited until the fasten your seat belt light came off so that they could get up casually and walk to the front of the plane so as not to prematurely alert the flight crew or anything? Nah, it couldn't be something so simple as that. It must be a conspiracy.
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Not only that, but your site directly spoke to the "hot for so long" stuff.
 
ib1yysguy said:
It's not just a building fire, BAC. A tower collapsing and crushing 400 cars (what are car engines made out of - zinc - and frames? - aluminum) into powder and mixing it into a huge cloud of rusty metals makes traces of thermite. It's really that simple.
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Its really that STUPID

That's absolutely moronic and assumes that scientific examination can't tell the difference between car parts and thermite.

You are a perfect example that the cognitive dissonance that surrounds this issue knows no political bounds.

And at what point are you going to answer why the site stayed hot?

Did car parts do that?
 
What do you get when you grind up a car and rusty metal? Thermite. End of story.

What kept the site hot? Not thermite. Thermite burns off very, very quickly.
 
blackascoal said:
Its really that STUPID

That's absolutely moronic and assumes that scientific examination can't tell the difference between car parts and thermite.

You are a perfect example that the cognitive dissonance that surrounds this issue knows no political bounds.

And at what point are you going to answer why the site stayed hot?

Did car parts do that?
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Any metal, once molten, will remain hot for very long periods of time if it is underground and not exposed to the air, ground transfer of heat takes a very long time compared to air transfer.

For example, the heat from an underground coal fire reaches very high temperatures because there is no where for the heat to escape to. Nobody pushes more coal into the ground to keep the fires going, but they can burn for a very, very long time.

Now, for the molten metals, we have definitely covered those above, but if you include fires and automobiles, etc, along with the planes. There were many, many metals that could become molten under such circumstances.

All of this, just from my Firefighter 1 Courses... Either fire sciences have been taught wrong for decades and decades, or you attempt to use other's ignorance to perpetuate an incorrect assumption.
 
blackascoal said:
Its really that STUPID

That's absolutely moronic and assumes that scientific examination can't tell the difference between car parts and thermite.

You are a perfect example that the cognitive dissonance that surrounds this issue knows no political bounds.

And at what point are you going to answer why the site stayed hot?

Did car parts do that?
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The site stayed hot because it was on fire and stayed on fire.

As for your idiotic attempts to proclaim thermite was used in a grand conspiracy.... ignoring the fact that you refuse to look at the data in terms of HOW MUCH thermite it would take to accomplish your conspiracy....

Lets instead look at YOUR OWN SOURCE....

http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf

I refer you to page C-5 under the summary... number 2 (see, I reference the exact page I am referring to and provide a link... unlike someone I know)

What does that say the temperatures reached? 1000 degrees C???

and Thermite burns at what? 2500 C

Lets move on... what else does that point state? What does the heated steel turn into? Iron, oxygen and sulfur.

What is required for a thermite like burn? a metal like iron (which was present) and a more reactive metal.... like Aluminum (also present)

I do wonder how traces of those thermite components could have possibly been found in the dust. Oh heavens... how did it occur?

Will ignore again the fact that thermite itself was shown to be used by the iron worker during cleanup.... because we all know if we ignore the posting of that photo that means it never happened.
 
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