Nation is divided like time of Civil War.

evince said:
Each state gets two no matter their population


But then more senators due to population level


Senators elected by all the states population

Reps by districts
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Prohibited by the Constitution. Giving all states an equal number of senators cannot be amended. But they could abolish the Senate.
 
Frank Apisa said:
I know all of that...just as anyone who has gotten past High School Civics knows it. Do you think you are special because you know stuff that is taught in high school...you fucking moron.

We were not discussing how things came to be...nor were we talking about lessons in civics.

WE WERE DISCUSSING your moronic comment that the fact that the 600,000 people of Wyoming being represented in the US Senate by two Senators and the 40,000,000 people of California being represented by only two Senators also...

...has no consequences?

You dumb mother-fucker...no matter how constituted or how conceived...IT HAS CONSEQUENSED...ENORMOUS CONSEQUENCES to the detriment of the people of California...no matter that they are represented more equitably in the House.

By the way, moron, "a state" is an area of land. It needs no representation. The people who live on that land do need representation...and they are getting fucked because of the way the representation is allotted. Anyone but a fucking moron would recognize that...and only a fucking moron would suggest that the situation has no consequences.

If I can help you with anything else...let me know. I feel it is right that the more intelligent among us help those who are lacking in intellectual ability.
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the only consequence is in your imagination. get over it. you are not that fucking intelligent, apparently. all you appear to be is a whiny little brat about it. now go back to the dunce corner, junior
 
BidenPresident said:
This is why right wingers hate liberal California and New York. Where all the power is.
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They know they're done. Just shutting down the white supremacists' communications will be enough to defeat them. Easy-peasy.. they can shoot into the dark all they want, if they don't see the military coming.. it's byyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the only consequence is in your imagination. get over it. you are not that fucking intelligent, apparently. all you appear to be is a whiny little brat about it. now go back to the dunce corner, junior
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Sounds like a surrender to me.

I accept your surrender...and wish you good luck with whatever foolish statement you want to make next.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I don't think they'd ever get 38 states to agree to that...........
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On that...I will agree with you.

But we were not talking about whether it could be changed. We were talking about your ignorant contention that it doesn't matter if the 600,000 heavily conservative voters of Wyoming have just as much power in the Senate as the 40,000,000 heavily liberal voters of California.

The notion sucks...which is why I hope we finally partition.

It would be interesting to see how Florida and Texas feel about having no more power than Wyoming, and North and South Dakota.
 
Frank Apisa said:
On that...I will agree with you.

But we were not talking about whether it could be changed. We were talking about your ignorant contention that it doesn't matter if the 600,000 heavily conservative voters of Wyoming have just as much power in the Senate as the 40,000,000 heavily liberal voters of California.

The notion sucks...which is why I hope we finally partition.

It would be interesting to see how Florida and Texas feel about having no more power than Wyoming, and North and South Dakota.
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Texas would simply become it's own nation once again.........we might even annex Louisiana and Mississippi, then ask Georgia and Florida to join us, giving us the entire gulf of Mexico as our seaport.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Texas would simply become it's own nation once again.........we might even annex Louisiana and Mississippi, then ask Georgia and Florida to join us, giving us the entire gulf of Mexico as our seaport.
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Could be.

States like Wyoming, N. & S. Dakota, Montana, Idaho...ranking states like Indiana and Illinois would be interesting also.

Frankly, I'd be more than happy to be rid of all of you. You are leeches on federal government. States like New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts end up supporting you.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Could be.

States like Wyoming, N. & S. Dakota, Montana, Idaho...ranking states like Indiana and Illinois would be interesting also.

Frankly, I'd be more than happy to be rid of all of you. You are leeches on federal government. States like New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts end up supporting you.
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Those frontier midwestern and northern states that have most of the cattle, along with some of the farming states will do just fine allied with the new Texas nation. Our oil will help sustain them and we'll be just fine without you. What you supposed 'rich' states will end up doing is raising taxes, making more poor people, and they will eventually all become lazy and dependent upon your government..........you'll slowly die off as business' look to regain profitability by moving to Texas.
 
Our devotion to our constitution is entirely rooted in toxic true-believerism.

We think of the inspiring preamble and the amendments that sought to protect our rights.
Those are indeed worth reflecting upon.

But the very word "constitution" refers to that of which something is made. That is what a constitution is.
The entire crux of our constitution is in the main articles which laid out our form of government.

The framers were so terrified of authoritarian government that they created the most inefficient and ineffective government of the face of the planet Earth.
That was true then, and it remains true now.

In addition to its ineffectiveness and inefficiency, the government created was and is inequitable as well.
Conservative rural states have governmental representation far in excess of their percentage of the population.

That means that all of us who live in the nation's unban cultural centers, which happen to be the world's most important urban cultural centers in many cases,
are vastly under-represented. In very real effect, the nation's brightest, most educated, and most accomplished citizens have far less political power than they should--
political power required to drag America belatedly into the 21st Century.

Thus, we've not entered the 21st Century in terms of accomplishment.
We've not striven toward a more perfect union as we were instructed to do by the very people who made it next to impossible for us to do it.
We're a socially regressive global laughingstock.

In the eyes of the world, we're all fat, dumb, morally deficient crackers, because fat, dumb, morally deficient crackers are what they see influencing the nation
and annoying the world.

If you're not highly embarrassed, you're not a worthy and patriotic American. It's quite that simple.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Those frontier midwestern and northern states that have most of the cattle, along with some of the farming states will do just fine allied with the new Texas nation. Our oil will help sustain them and we'll be just fine without you. What you supposed 'rich' states will end up doing is raising taxes, making more poor people, and they will eventually all become lazy and dependent upon your government..........you'll slowly die off as business' look to regain profitability by moving to Texas.
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Yeah...keep thinking that. Your group will become a third world country...and beg to be allowed back into some kind of union.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Our devotion to our constitution is entirely rooted in toxic true-believerism.

We think of the inspiring preamble and the amendments that sought to protect our rights.
Those are indeed worth reflecting upon.

But the very word "constitution" refers to that of which something is made. That is what a constitution is.
The entire crux of our constitution is in the main articles which laid out our form of government.

The framers were so terrified of authoritarian government that they created the most inefficient and ineffective government of the face of the planet Earth.
That was true then, and it remains true now.

In addition to its ineffectiveness and inefficiency, the government created was and is inequitable as well.
Conservative rural states have governmental representation far in excess of their percentage of the population.

That means that all of us who live in the nation's unban cultural centers, which happen to be the world's most important urban cultural centers in many cases,
are vastly under-represented. In very real effect, the nation's brightest, most educated, and most accomplished citizens have far less political power than they should--
political power required to drag America belatedly into the 21st Century.

Thus, we've not entered the 21st Century in terms of accomplishment.
We've not striven toward a more perfect union as we were instructed to do by the very people who made it next to impossible for us to do it.
We're a socially regressive global laughingstock.

In the eyes of the world, we're all fat, dumb, morally deficient crackers, because fat, dumb, morally deficient crackers are what they see influencing the nation
and annoying the world.

If you're not highly embarrassed, you're not a worthy and patriotic American. It's quite that simple.
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You shoulda posted that in LARGE type...and bolded. It is right on!
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I gotta hand it to you liberals. you sure do stay stuck on your stupid fantasies..........no matter how bad they turn out.
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I am not a liberal.

As for the deluded class in America...Trumpers, American conservatives, and members of the GOP are the champs. Everyone else is a distant also-ran.
 
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