Nazis in Ohio.

Doc Dutch said:
My best advice to you is to stay away from doctors and all medication. In fact, you should only drink distilled water, rainwater or pure grain alcohol to protect your precious bodily fluids from contamination by the government and/or the corporations.
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You are repeating yourself dumbass. You best troll someone else.
 
Doc Dutch said:
It's a serious warning which you should heed....unless you want the CIA and FBI tracking you and reading your thoughts.
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Mr. Tiny Penis, do you think they have caught up with the arrogant asshole that believes it is OK to shoot all Trump supporters.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That's just crazy shit from a woman who is clearly batshit crazy. Psychic surgery is a magic trick that is presented as a medical practice. She's insane, but not actively trying to defraud patients...
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The problem is that it's clowns like this woman that garner all the press regarding the adverse affects of the vaccines, the major flaw of using PCR tests to determine infection, or how hospitals treat such cases. The sane, rational, highly pedigreed and respected doctors and medical experts in the field and researchers who say such things are immediately vilified and ignored.
 
Taichiliberal said:
The problem is that it's clowns like this woman that garner all the press regarding the adverse affects of the vaccines, the major flaw of using PCR tests to determine infection, or how hospitals treat such cases. The sane, rational, highly pedigreed and respected doctors and medical experts in the field and researchers who say such things are immediately vilified and ignored.
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Here's what I see in regard to the Chinese Disease vaccine. It was rushed into production on very limited testing and proved only marginally effective. Not unexpected given the rush to produce it. For those most at risk it was probably a great idea to get one. For those otherwise, it should have been seen as a choice rather than a panacea which it wasn't. Scientific illiterates, particularly on the Left, simply couldn't grasp that and tried to force it on everyone.

This was the same sort of stupidity I saw in the military with the anthrax vaccine. They wanted everyone vaccinated against a nonexistent threat of biological warfare. The result was many people given the vaccine had severe and adverse reactions to it, something that was known from testing. The military dropped the requirement once the obviousness of that was demonstrated but not before many service members were either disabled or in some cases, died.

This "doctor" in Michigan is an idiot, but that doesn't mean the Chinese Disease vaccines should be forced on everyone either. Speaking in my case, I did eventually get a case and the symptoms lasted about two days with chills and weakness. After that, nada, zip point shit, and it was over. I've had worse colds. I'm not speaking for everyone here on that, just myself. And, no, I'm not getting that vaccine now or in the future.

On the other hand, I have no problem with many other vaccines I've received, and I'll update my tetanus one here in the next year or so for example. I usually get the flu one since the adverse reactions, for me, are nil and it can't hurt to have it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
The problem is that it's clowns like this woman that garner all the press regarding the adverse affects of the vaccines, the major flaw of using PCR tests to determine infection, or how hospitals treat such cases. The sane, rational, highly pedigreed and respected doctors and medical experts in the field and researchers who say such things are immediately vilified and ignored.
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Here's what I see in regard to the Chinese Disease vaccine. It was rushed into production on very limited testing and proved only marginally effective. Not unexpected given the rush to produce it. For those most at risk it was probably a great idea to get one. For those otherwise, it should have been seen as a choice rather than a panacea which it wasn't. Scientific illiterates, particularly on the Left, simply couldn't grasp that and tried to force it on everyone.

This was the same sort of stupidity I saw in the military with the anthrax vaccine. They wanted everyone vaccinated against a nonexistent threat of biological warfare. The result was many people given the vaccine had severe and adverse reactions to it, something that was known from testing. The military dropped the requirement once the obviousness of that was demonstrated but not before many service members were either disabled or in some cases, died.

This "doctor" in Michigan is an idiot, but that doesn't mean the Chinese Disease vaccines should be forced on everyone either. Speaking in my case, I did eventually get a case and the symptoms lasted about two days with chills and weakness. After that, nada, zip point shit, and it was over. I've had worse colds. I'm not speaking for everyone here on that, just myself. And, no, I'm not getting that vaccine now or in the future.

On the other hand, I have no problem with many other vaccines I've received, and I'll update my tetanus one here in the next year or so for example. I usually get the flu one since the adverse reactions, for me, are nil and it can't hurt to have it.
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And that's the hell of it all! This whole thing was put into the category of political ideology....the right wing viewed a mandate as "nanny state, big gov't, deep state" attempts to control all, the left wing for the silly reasons you described just as a counter. Anything in the middle is summarily dismissed.

In my case, I got it in November of 2021 along with my parents and 2 brothers. The brothers had it for a week or two and got over it (akin to a nasty flu) which they treated with various vitamins, minerals and such. I and my parents were hospitalized....my mom didn't make it, my pop was in rehab for a month. I was in for a solid month, with a week in ICU and about 3 weeks with air tubes in my nose....lost 40 pounds and all my muscle tone. Unlike my parents, my brothers were able to send me vitamins, supplements and some Ivermectin on the down low....turned everything around. I had home rehab visit's for a month....had a RPH that was shocked back into norm, followed a month later by a 1 day "minor" out patient procedure. Currently, doing DAMNED good, with a bit of residual leftover that dissipates each week....no more meds, doc gives thumbs up on heart.

Personally, never got a seasonal flu shot....been wary ever since I had to get a tetanus shot as a young man and had a serious 12 hour flu like reaction....also when recently the whole Tamiflu nonsense keeps me of the same mindset.
 
Taichiliberal said:
And that's the hell of it all! This whole thing was put into the category of political ideology....the right wing viewed a mandate as "nanny state, big gov't, deep state" attempts to control all, the left wing for the silly reasons you described just as a counter. Anything in the middle is summarily dismissed.

In my case, I got it in November of 2021 along with my parents and 2 brothers. The brothers had it for a week or two and got over it (akin to a nasty flu) which they treated with various vitamins, minerals and such. I and my parents were hospitalized....my mom didn't make it, my pop was in rehab for a month. I was in for a solid month, with a week in ICU and about 3 weeks with air tubes in my nose....lost 40 pounds and all my muscle tone. Unlike my parents, my brothers were able to send me vitamins, supplements and some Ivermectin on the down low....turned everything around. I had home rehab visit's for a month....had a RPH that was shocked back into norm, followed a month later by a 1 day "minor" out patient procedure. Currently, doing DAMNED good, with a bit of residual leftover that dissipates each week....no more meds, doc gives thumbs up on heart.

Personally, never got a seasonal flu shot....been wary ever since I had to get a tetanus shot as a young man and had a serious 12 hour flu like reaction....also when recently the whole Tamiflu nonsense keeps me of the same mindset.
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The whole time this bullshit was going on, I was careening around metro Phoenix in much lighter traffic going to various apartments and homes to fix electrical issues. I NEVER wore a mask except on the rare occasion that the renter asked me to within their home (one case out of well over 100) or where a store (usually the Big Orange Box aka Home Depot) was demanding it while in the store.
I never got it in all those travels in public all over the place. I did catch a cold twice, and did get checked just in case, and did stay out of going to calls until the cold cleared up. I figured that was all reasonable.

On one call in Snobsdale (aka Scottsdale) to a home in a gated community, I was there to change a faulty breaker in the service panel on the outside of the house. Beautiful day. In the 80's, gentle breeze, clear blue sky... The renter, in a mask came out, and then stood on the sidewalk like 20 feet from me bitching the whole time that I wasn't wearing a mask and demanding I do so to spend all of maybe ten minutes swapping out that breaker while outdoors. The fucker didn't even have to be out there at all for me to do it either.
I guess you can be rich and stupid all at once.

Personally, the one that always hurt was penicillin. The military gives you one periodically, because... That's their rule. That damn thing was always like getting hit in the shoulder with a sledgehammer.

As for Chinese Disease, it hit different people differently. The flu is like that too. Me? It wasn't anything special, more annoying than anything. Others, they died from it. I get that. The flu shots the military made you take. I also have the whole hepatitis series, yellow fever, etc., done, even small pox. So, getting a flu shot based on experience is nothing special for me. Didn't do the Chinese Disease one though, and not planning to.
The one they're asking about now is a shingles vaccine. It's really expensive, like $500 and not all insurers pay for it so I've declined so far not knowing for sure if it's covered because it's not worth that to me to avoid something I'm not likely to get.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The whole time this bullshit was going on, I was careening around metro Phoenix in much lighter traffic going to various apartments and homes to fix electrical issues. I NEVER wore a mask except on the rare occasion that the renter asked me to within their home (one case out of well over 100) or where a store (usually the Big Orange Box aka Home Depot) was demanding it while in the store.
I never got it in all those travels in public all over the place. I did catch a cold twice, and did get checked just in case, and did stay out of going to calls until the cold cleared up. I figured that was all reasonable.

On one call in Snobsdale (aka Scottsdale) to a home in a gated community, I was there to change a faulty breaker in the service panel on the outside of the house. Beautiful day. In the 80's, gentle breeze, clear blue sky... The renter, in a mask came out, and then stood on the sidewalk like 20 feet from me bitching the whole time that I wasn't wearing a mask and demanding I do so to spend all of maybe ten minutes swapping out that breaker while outdoors. The fucker didn't even have to be out there at all for me to do it either.
I guess you can be rich and stupid all at once.

Personally, the one that always hurt was penicillin. The military gives you one periodically, because... That's their rule. That damn thing was always like getting hit in the shoulder with a sledgehammer.

As for Chinese Disease, it hit different people differently. The flu is like that too. Me? It wasn't anything special, more annoying than anything. Others, they died from it. I get that. The flu shots the military made you take. I also have the whole hepatitis series, yellow fever, etc., done, even small pox. So, getting a flu shot based on experience is nothing special for me. Didn't do the Chinese Disease one though, and not planning to.
The one they're asking about now is a shingles vaccine. It's really expensive, like $500 and not all insurers pay for it so I've declined so far not knowing for sure if it's covered because it's not worth that to me to avoid something I'm not likely to get.
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I never got a penicillin shot "periodically". IIRC, I never got a penicillin shot, just pills when sick or for an infection.

Yes, I always got my shots on schedule. There's a lot of nasty dumbasses out there who think they know more than the doctors and will spread disease because the fucking morons think they know better. These are the same dipshits who never wash their hands after pissing and shitting then serve food to others. Fucking morons are a big danger because they aren't doing it out of maliciousness, just ignorance and stupidity.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
And that's the hell of it all! This whole thing was put into the category of political ideology....the right wing viewed a mandate as "nanny state, big gov't, deep state" attempts to control all, the left wing for the silly reasons you described just as a counter. Anything in the middle is summarily dismissed.

In my case, I got it in November of 2021 along with my parents and 2 brothers. The brothers had it for a week or two and got over it (akin to a nasty flu) which they treated with various vitamins, minerals and such. I and my parents were hospitalized....my mom didn't make it, my pop was in rehab for a month. I was in for a solid month, with a week in ICU and about 3 weeks with air tubes in my nose....lost 40 pounds and all my muscle tone. Unlike my parents, my brothers were able to send me vitamins, supplements and some Ivermectin on the down low....turned everything around. I had home rehab visit's for a month....had a RPH that was shocked back into norm, followed a month later by a 1 day "minor" out patient procedure. Currently, doing DAMNED good, with a bit of residual leftover that dissipates each week....no more meds, doc gives thumbs up on heart.

Personally, never got a seasonal flu shot....been wary ever since I had to get a tetanus shot as a young man and had a serious 12 hour flu like reaction....also when recently the whole Tamiflu nonsense keeps me of the same mindset.
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The whole time this bullshit was going on, I was careening around metro Phoenix in much lighter traffic going to various apartments and homes to fix electrical issues. I NEVER wore a mask except on the rare occasion that the renter asked me to within their home (one case out of well over 100) or where a store (usually the Big Orange Box aka Home Depot) was demanding it while in the store.
I never got it in all those travels in public all over the place. I did catch a cold twice, and did get checked just in case, and did stay out of going to calls until the cold cleared up. I figured that was all reasonable.

On one call in Snobsdale (aka Scottsdale) to a home in a gated community, I was there to change a faulty breaker in the service panel on the outside of the house. Beautiful day. In the 80's, gentle breeze, clear blue sky... The renter, in a mask came out, and then stood on the sidewalk like 20 feet from me bitching the whole time that I wasn't wearing a mask and demanding I do so to spend all of maybe ten minutes swapping out that breaker while outdoors. The fucker didn't even have to be out there at all for me to do it either.
I guess you can be rich and stupid all at once.

Personally, the one that always hurt was penicillin. The military gives you one periodically, because... That's their rule. That damn thing was always like getting hit in the shoulder with a sledgehammer.

As for Chinese Disease, it hit different people differently. The flu is like that too. Me? It wasn't anything special, more annoying than anything. Others, they died from it. I get that. The flu shots the military made you take. I also have the whole hepatitis series, yellow fever, etc., done, even small pox. So, getting a flu shot based on experience is nothing special for me. Didn't do the Chinese Disease one though, and not planning to.
The one they're asking about now is a shingles vaccine. It's really expensive, like $500 and not all insurers pay for it so I've declined so far not knowing for sure if it's covered because it's not worth that to me to avoid something I'm not likely to get.
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On a side note: It's been documented that the Wuhan lab was doing outsourced "contract" research for an American pharmaceutical company (I'm not sure if the name was disclosed) at the time of the outbreak in China. When asked about this in a press conference, Fauci stated that it was for "other" projects and "NOT related to Covid".

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Why in the hell would an American pharmaceutical research have to outsource the China? It should be noted that certain biological researches are forbidden in the USA by law due to their threat potential. No such law exists for the Chinese labs as a mandate unless the communist gov't forbids it.

I don't trust Fauci as far as I can throw him. He's had no credibility ever since the AIDS crisis. Pity Dr Mullis isn't alive to put him in his place.
 
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