NEWSMAX: No Voting Machine Fraud

Agreed about defamation suit by corporations. It's usually a waste of money to sue individuals for defamation on message boards.

If anonymous JPP asshole #1 calls anonymous JPP asshole #2 a "cunt", there's a zero chance of proving defamation since a key part of defamation is proving harm. Corporations can prove harm by loss of business. What harm was done to an anonymous user?

Another reason I don't like lawyers, but understand their use was because I was involved in such a lawsuit. It cost me $17K to tell that asshole to go fuck himself. The good news? He spent over $89K before his lawyers quit for non-payment and then represented himself in court.

Also, it might be hard to prove JPP Asshole #2 is not a cunt. On the other hand, Dominion and Smartmatic can prove Hugo Chavez did not write their software and all the other claims made about those two corporations.
 
It all proves the maxim "Money talks, bullshit walks". Fox and Newsmax walked as fast as they could away from their own bullshit.

I couldn't believe anybody would believe claims involving Chavez or that any company would purposely write programs to change the votes and any states or counties would buy their products.
 
saying the network itself “never made a claim of impropriety about Smartmatic, its ownership or software.”

The previous Newsmax statement went on, “As any major media outlet, we provide a forum for public concerns and discussion. In the past we
have welcomed Smartmatic and its representatives to counter such claims they believe to be inaccurate and will continue to do so.”
 
Also, it might be hard to prove JPP Asshole #2 is not a cunt. On the other hand, Dominion and Smartmatic can prove Hugo Chavez did not write their software and all the other claims made about those two corporations.

Pardon, but you are looking at it bassackwards. It's difficult to prove a negative. It's up to Fox, Newsmax and the other defamers to prove their claims against Dominion and Smartmatic. All Dominion and Smartmatic have to do is prove a financial loss or other harm (numbers are best and $$$ = numbers).

In such a scenario, it's up to JPP #1 to prove JPP #2 to prove # 2 is a cunt, not for #2 to prove they are not. However, to win a defamation suit, #2 has to prove harm. "My feelings were hurt" doesn't do it. Loss of business, estrangement from family and/or friends or any other form of physical harm. Psychological harm is harder to prove unless the person died. Remember the cute chick who was sentenced for driving another person to suicide on Facebook(?)? Still, harm has to be proved in order to win a case.

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saying the network itself “never made a claim of impropriety about Smartmatic, its ownership or software.”

The previous Newsmax statement went on, “As any major media outlet, we provide a forum for public concerns and discussion. In the past we
have welcomed Smartmatic and its representatives to counter such claims they believe to be inaccurate and will continue to do so.”

Translation: Newsmax admits they were wrong and will both cease and desist in their false accusations.

LOL
 
I couldn't believe anybody would believe claims involving Chavez or that any company would purposely write programs to change the votes and any states or counties would buy their products.

Several members of this forum disagree with you.
 
Pardon, but you are looking at it bassackwards. It's difficult to prove a negative. It's up to Fox, Newsmax and the other defamers to prove their claims against Dominion and Smartmatic. All Dominion and Smartmatic have to do is prove a financial loss or other harm (numbers are best and $$$ = numbers).

Agreed. If Fox and Newsmax can show their statements were true that is a defense against libel/defamation even if the companies did experience harm.
 
I couldn't believe anybody would believe claims involving Chavez or that any company would purposely write programs to change the votes and any states or counties would buy their products.

It is because they want to believe very badly. That makes them vulnerable to anything the right says that feeds the needs.
 
They don’t want a big law suit hanging over their heads if Trump decides to pick them for his future network.

LOL An excellent point. The downside is that Trump is nuts enough he may take it as blasphemy from a non-believer.
 
Without explicitly addressing their prior coverage, Fox News and Newsmax both aired segments over the past few days walking back a subset of election fraud claims centering around voting machines manufacturer Smartmatic, which earlier this month delivered legal notices to a trio of conservative networks for promoting baseless conspiracy theories about the company.

So, yeah! When they know they can be sued for millions of dollars for libel- HELL YEAH! THEY Walked it all back in short shrift!

BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
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Several members of this forum disagree with you.

I know. I still have trouble understanding how they believe it.

But, I do realize we basically believe anything our side is pushing. Facts don't really matter.

None of us had any clue whether the Anita Hill or Ford testimony was true or false, but liberals believed them and conservatives thought they were lying. And, we knew in advance that would be true--partisanship determined their conclusions.

I'm curious what the new tactic will be after Congress certifies the electoral votes on January 6 and declares Biden the winner. I'm sure the Trump supporters are sure he will still win the presidency through some new scheme.
 
Agreed. That said, both Fox and Newsmax walked away. Results count.

It's not like a Trumpian SLAPP suit against some poor schmuck or small business owner who can't afford a lawyer. That's what was done against me.

It also occurred to my HOA that was opposing annexation by the city. It seemed like basically a suit against free speech but they had some other legal justification.

I watched the Fox statement. They did not actually claim they were wrong, they had a guy answering questions who claimed he was not aware of Dominion doing business with Venezuela, etc.
 
I know. I still have trouble understanding how they believe it.

But, I do realize we basically believe anything our side is pushing. Facts don't really matter.

None of us had any clue whether the Anita Hill or Ford testimony was true or false, but liberals believed them and conservatives thought they were lying. And, we knew in advance that would be true--partisanship determined their conclusions.

I'm curious what the new tactic will be after Congress certifies the electoral votes on January 6 and declares Biden the winner. I'm sure the Trump supporters are sure he will still win the presidency through some new scheme.

IMO, it comes down to societies where conspiracy theories are high and where they are low. Conspiracy theorists exist throughout the modern world. Most of us were a little bit suspicious about the JFK assassination. As a kid, I thought there was a government cover-up in Project Blue Book and Area 51.

There's a difference when an individual is a conspiracy theorist nutjob and when a large section of society become conspiracy theorist nutjobs on certain topics. The US is much more like Third World shitholes when it comes to the latter. We weren't like this back in the 1980s, but it started happening in the US after Ruby Ridge and Waco. 9/11 saw a lot of them spring up. Bush's invasion of Iraq didn't help.

Maybe it has something to do with the Rise of the WWW.
 
It also occurred to my HOA that was opposing annexation by the city. It seemed like basically a suit against free speech but they had some other legal justification.

I watched the Fox statement. They did not actually claim they were wrong, they had a guy answering questions who claimed he was not aware of Dominion doing business with Venezuela, etc.

No doubt the fucking lawyers were consulted or even opposing lawyers. The bottom line is that Fox stopped blabbing bullshit about Dominion, Smartmatic and Venezuela.

Conspiracy theories are not news. They're just conspiracy theories meaning they can't be proved.
 
Of course, there was voting fraud. All you need is to don your red slippers, click the heels together 3 times and say 'I believe, I believe, I believe".
 
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IMO, it comes down to societies where conspiracy theories are high and where they are low. Conspiracy theorists exist throughout the modern world. Most of us were a little bit suspicious about the JFK assassination. As a kid, I thought there was a government cover-up in Project Blue Book and Area 51.

Conspiracy theories tend to increase in periods of high stress (and people with a high level of dopamine).

On conspiracies like JFK or 9/11 I used to get bogged down in explaining details. Then, I realized nobody with all the resources needed to pull off such an event would never be stupid enough to say "let's shoot him from the front and explain it by saying he was shot from behind." Or, "let's plant explosives in those buildings and blame it on an airliner."
 
Why do you think it's fake news, INT/IBDa/gfm175?

Because it makes him wet his pink panties?

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