Newsome wipes the floor with DeSantis.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Agreed. It proves they are not very bright and can't see much further than the end of their own noses.

Yes. Agreed, which gets back to the self-esteem issue; a need to feel superior to others. They justify receiving taxpayer dollars from you and me because they truly need the money but consider all those lazy, shiftless gays, blacks, Jews and women to be whining losers sucking up money without actually needing it. Yes, it's a very fucked up attitude, but low self-esteem people are often poorly educated, not-too-bright and/or mentally ill. Usually the latter.

Consider an elderly person who once thought they had it all but blew their money on foolish things, ends up in retirement with severe diabetes, bad knees, crippling arthritis or other ailments yet still has to work in order to make ends meet. If they were intelligent, educated and sane, they'd have prepared for the eventuality. If they were less so, they are now behind the power curve and struggling with an uncertain future.

In my experience, it's this latter group who are most likely to blame others for their problems. Usually just as seen daily on JPP; they blame the Libs for giving away all their tax dollars to buy votes from minorities and illegals. They blame the Lefties for paying for trannie surgeries on kids and prisoners. They blame the lazy, shiftless Jews, blacks, Mexicans, gays, etc for sucking up tax dollars without ever paying anything into the national treasury.

Who they don't blame are the Republicans who keep threatening to shut down the government without bigger tax cuts for the rich at the cost of underfunding oversight agencies, law enforcement and the military. It's one thing to cut the fat, but the Republicans have been doing this for over 30 years and are now cutting out meat and bone. It's why our infrastructure is failing. It's why many things can't be done simply because there's no money to do it. It's also why the debt keeps rising.

Yet, according to the bigots, it's the Lib's fault.

None of this is true, of course, but this is what their choice of "news" tells them is true. When called on that, they insist that they "don't watch Fox" (or whatever). Yet they parrots the exact same talking points that are being disseminated by Reichwing sources. Apparently blaming others for one's own problems is far easier than trying to solve them. What if they started asking themselves "Why do these people want me to believe that ___ is true?"?

 

[QP!]

Newsom was asked specifically would he protect the innocent unborn in the 7th, 8th, and 9th months. He repeatedly refused to answer.

I'm not surprised that a Satanist would support human sacrifice of innocents and killing the unborn for financial reasons.

I have made no religious argument. The science is clear, it is human life.

It's appalling to see those who have benefited from COBRA, social security disability, Medicare, etc. bitching about others also using these programs. But it's pretty typical of hypocritical Reichwingers, isn't it? They always assume that anyone receiving public benefits is a non-white, urban, lazy slacker.

Yup. Excellent points all.

Add to that, that Red States are overall welfare States dependant on the tax revenue transfer money that the more successful Blue States generate.

So all this screaming by the derps about 'failing blue states' is just garbage.

 

[Nordberg]

it is the wealthy who get the best services from the government. They get the best roads, the best policing, and the best fire protection. They do not wait endlessly when they call a cop. They are used to the best and they get it. Note which neighborhoods get fixed in disasters.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

None of this is true, of course, but this is what their choice of "news" tells them is true.

When called on that, they insist that they "don't watch Fox" (or whatever). Yet they parrots the exact same talking points that are being disseminated by Reichwing sources. Apparently blaming others for one's own problems is far easier than trying to solve them.

What if they started asking themselves "Why do these people want me to believe that ___ is true?"?

Agreed 100%. They are lashing out with lies. Lies that they see as truth since they heard it from Tucker, Fox News, OANN or whomever provides the narrative they want to hear.

Agreed on parroting the same talking points. Regardless where they obtain this narrative, they quote it as truth and keep pushing it because it fits their view that the blame is on others, not themselves. It's also why the Republican Party no longer represents people who believe in personal accountability. They are now the party of blaming others for everything.

They can't ask themselves that question any more than a drunk driver can decide if they are safe to drive; they are stupid, poorly-educated and/or mentally ill. It's the entire reason why they seek to blame others rather than accept responsibilities in their own lives.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Yup. Excellent points all.

Add to that, that Red States are overall welfare States dependant on the tax revenue transfer money that the more successful Blue States generate.

So all this screaming by the derps about 'failing blue states' is just garbage.

Sure is. I know at least one of the Reichwingers here wailing and gnashing their teeth about "America is in decline due to Biden" lives in a decaying urban area because of lack of income to live elsewhere. Therefore, the Fox-fed assumption is that the *entire country,* especially Democrat-led cities, is in the same crumbling condition. Fox, like Trump, loves the poorly-educated.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yup. Excellent points all.

Add to that, that Red States are overall welfare States dependant on the tax revenue transfer money that the more successful Blue States generate.

So all this screaming by the derps about 'failing blue states' is just garbage.

That's a bit of a LW meme as shown below, but still with truth in it albeit very narrowly viewed. i.e. you can't eat computer chips, stocks and bonds, automobiles or any other manufactured goods. The ag business is much lower paying than the manufacturing industry.

What is your solution to this perceived problem if completely true, QP?


https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/welfare-recipients-by-state
The ten states that have the highest number of SNAP recipients in 2022 are:

• California (4,327,100)
• Texas (3,408,400)
• Florida (3,356,200)
• New York (2,780,700)
• Illinois (1,930,400)
• Pennsylvania (1,766,500)
• Georgia (1,640,600)
• North Carolina (1,541,700)
• Ohio (1,509,400)
• Michigan (1,278,200).

The states with the highest percentage of SNAP recipients are:

• New Mexico (25%)
• The District of Columbia (21%)
• Louisiana (20%)
• Oregon (17%)
• West Virginia (17%)
• Oklahoma (16%)
• Alabama (15%)
• Florida (15%)
• Georgia (15%)

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Sure is. I know at least one of the Reichwingers here wailing and gnashing their teeth about "America is in decline due to Biden" lives in a decaying urban area because of lack of income to live elsewhere. Therefore, the Fox-fed assumption is that the *entire country,* especially Democrat-led cities, is in the same crumbling condition.

Fox, like Trump, loves the poorly-educated.

Exhibit #2703 on why Trumpers aren't very bright.

Agreed. Trump is leading them by the nose.

 

[BartenderElite]

If that was really the concern, you Reichwingers wouldn't be trying to defund Planned Parenthood, which provides education, health care, and *contraception* so that abortions aren't necessary.

If that was really the concern, Reichwingers would be taking all necessary steps to curb the gun violence that is America's #1 cause of death for children in our country.

If that was really the concern, you Reichwingers would gladly fund social programs like TANF, food stamps, Medicaid, and Head Start, instead of whining about "those lazy moochers."

If that was really the concern, you anti-vax Reichwingers wouldn't be anti-vax; you would do whatever necessary to protect your fellow citizens from your cooties.

To sum up, you don't give a shit about "someone else's body." You just want to force those careless sluts who get pregnant to pay for their sluttiness.

Great post.

"Pro lifers" are mostly hypocrites, who actually don't care about life at all. The curtain has been pulled back, and we all know what they really stand for & what they represent.

 

[QP!]

That's a bit of a LW meme as shown below, but still with truth in it albeit very narrowly viewed. i.e. you can't eat computer chips, stocks and bonds, automobiles or any other manufactured goods. The ag business is much lower paying than the manufacturing industry.

What is your solution to this perceived problem if completely true, QP?


https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/welfare-recipients-by-state
The ten states that have the highest number of SNAP recipients in 2022 are:

• California (4,327,100)
• Texas (3,408,400)
• Florida (3,356,200)
• New York (2,780,700)
• Illinois (1,930,400)
• Pennsylvania (1,766,500)
• Georgia (1,640,600)
• North Carolina (1,541,700)
• Ohio (1,509,400)
• Michigan (1,278,200).

The states with the highest percentage of SNAP recipients are:

• New Mexico (25%)
• The District of Columbia (21%)
• Louisiana (20%)
• Oregon (17%)
• West Virginia (17%)
• Oklahoma (16%)
• Alabama (15%)
• Florida (15%)
• Georgia (15%)

Sure.

But that does not change the fact, that SNAP and all programs in Blue and Red States are funded much more so by Blue State money.

AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states

Republican leaders have spent months promoting the myth that red low-tax states are subsidizing blue high-tax states because of the deduction for state and local taxes.

An Associated Press Fact Check finds it’s actually the other way around. High-tax, traditionally Democratic states (blue), subsidize low-tax, traditionally Republican states (red) — in a big way....


THE FACTS:
Connecticut residents paid an average of $15,643 per person in federal taxes in 2015, according to a report by the Rockefeller Institute of Government. Massachusetts paid $13,582 per person, New Jersey paid $13,137 and New York paid $12,820.

California residents paid an average of $10,510.

At the other end, Mississippi residents paid an average of $5,740 per person, while West Virginia paid $6,349, Kentucky paid $6,626 and South Carolina paid $6,665.

Low-tax red states also fare better when you take into account federal spending....

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Sure.

But that does not change the fact, that SNAP and all programs in Blue and Red States are funded much more so by Blue State money.

Yes, high paying jobs, even if taxed at the same rate, pay more taxes than low-paying jobs. A Wall Street trader pays more in taxes than a Mississippi Walmart employee. RWers use this same argument when pointing out how a billionaire pays more in taxes than poor people and, therefore, should have more say in government policy.

Again, what is your solution to this problem? Cut federal funding to other states? Require all Federal taxes to only be paid to the state paying the taxes?

 

[QP!]

Yes, high paying jobs, even if taxed at the same rate, pay more taxes than low-paying jobs. A Wall Street trader pays more in taxes than a Mississippi Walmart employee.

Again, what is your solution to this problem? Cut federal funding to other states? Require all Federal taxes to only be paid to the state paying the taxes?

No. I am all for redistribution from the more wealthy States to the poorer ones, in the form of Federalism, just as i am within the State, from more wealthy individuals to poorer ones.

I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the derps and Red States who gladly take the hand out while pointing at the one giving them the money and claiming 'you are a failed State'.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Not this stupid debunked argument again.

you have to be pretty stupid to think you can "debunk" DNA.....

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No. I am all for redistribution from the more wealthy States to the poorer ones, in the form of Federalism, just as i am within the State, from more wealthy individuals to poorer ones.

I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of the derps and Red States who gladly take the hand out while pointing at the one giving them the money and claiming 'you are a failed State'.

As the wise man said, "You can't fix stupid".

Again, while you've accurately assessed the problem, I've seen no solutions offered. Do you have any?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Yup. Excellent points all.

Add to that, that Red States are overall welfare States dependant on the tax revenue transfer money that the more successful Blue States generate.

So all this screaming by the derps about 'failing blue states' is just garbage.

and yet, California leads the country in poverty......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

it is the wealthy who get the best services from the government. They get the best roads, the best policing, and the best fire protection. They do not wait endlessly when they call a cop. They are used to the best and they get it. Note which neighborhoods get fixed in disasters.

lol.....which roads may only be used by rich people?.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Great post.

"Pro lifers" are mostly hypocrites, who actually don't care about life at all. The curtain has been pulled back, and we all know what they really stand for & what they represent.

and pro deathers are mostly baby killers.......

 

[Dutch Uncle]

and yet, California leads the country in poverty......

You're using the same argument as the Lefty gun-grabbers by looking at total numbers instead of percentages. The most populous state in the Union does have the most impoverished but they are #31 for having the lowest percentage rate of impoverished.

Intelligent, honest and sane people understand both the rate and total numbers must be used in order to have a fuller understanding of the problem. Dumbasses and liars don't give a shit about truth.

 

[Ross Dolan]

HE or SHE is an unborn baby... if a woman wishes to terminate that life you are right she is probably going to find a way and we'll have to live with her decision..
. That's pretty life-changing in more ways than one ...anti-abortion supporters are simply trying to find ways to avoid having to make that decision... hundreds of thousands of "oops" a year is pretty concerning...

If not born...he/she is not a baby.

Under any circumstances, if a pregnant woman wants to terminate her pregnancy, she should be allowed to do so legally and safely.

You people are not pro-life...and never have been pro-life. You are anti-choice.

But...stick with your bullshit. It appears to be all you have on this issue.

 

[anonymoose]

You people are not pro-life...and never have been pro-life. You are anti-choice.

But...stick with your bullshit. It appears to be all you have on this issue.

I am pro death and support after birth abortion up to age 18.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Is that your justification for killing a baby a week before it is born, Frank? Semantics?

You people are not pro-life...you are anti-choice. You use the "it is a baby" as a pretence...you think all people are as stupid as you guys are.

But most people can see through your bullshit with no problem.

As for your bullshit question: I think a pregnant woman who wants to terminate that pregnancy, which is occurring in her own body, should be able to do so legally and safely.

If the right wing scum would stop the impediments to that happening, almost ALL of it would happen early in the pregnancy.