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[Diesel]

Only an idiot takes someone claiming expertise at their word.

Not their word, you fucking moron. Their credentials, experience, publications, actions, and spoken words. Those are called qualifications, and they matter when you're trying to discuss a matter of academia.

I'm glad I've never taken a political science course given that's one of the easiest, if not the easiest, liberal arts degrees in existence.

How the fuck would you know? You've never taken a political science course, yet you have the ignorant arrogance to opine on their difficulty. You are a very stupid person.

It's the one many law students take to get a good GPA for Liar... Law school.

I doubled my undergraduate degrees: Political science as well as history. Did you go to college? I also got a secondary education teaching certificate that is active today, which I maintain by continuing my education annually. I also have a JD. Only uneducated MAGAts claim that education has no value.

Why are you on this board, to give people the finger? That seems to be about all you do.

Well, that's not even remotely true, so this is all the response you'll get to yet another stupid question and false assertion.

No, it's not. There is no empirical or quantifiable data to make that statement off of. It's basically a SWAGPOOYA and nothing more.

Yes, dumb fuck, there is significant empirical and quantifiable data from political science, sociology, and psychology that links nationalism to right wing politics. Research consistently shows that right wing, and specifically far right, ideologies are anchored in nationalist principles, often characterized by the prioritization of in-group loyalty, anti-immigrant sentiment, and cultural protectionism.

See Michal Cichocka and Agnieszka Golec de Zavala. See this linked study titled "Right-wing political orientation, national identification and the acceptance of immigrants and minorities".

See Jason Miller. Empirical studies have demonstrated that nationalism is a strong predictor of support for conservative policies, with one study finding a positive correlation of r = 0.46 between conservative ideology and nationalism. See this linked study titled "The core of division: Examining how essentialist views of the U.S. underlie right-wing authoritarianism, social dominance orientation, and nationalism".

See Akkerman, Golder, and Mudde. See this linked study titled "Careless whisper: Political elite discourses activate national identities for far-right voting preferences" and this linked study titled "Explaining the Rise of Far-Right Political Parties in Europe".

See studies by the Pew Research Center, including "Political Polarization in the American Public" linked here.

I could go on and on and on, but Stupid Wild Ass Guesses Pulled Out Of Your Ass is all you have. I have an education and can run circles around you with this shit.

If anything, the Left is far more racist than the Right. The Left usually codifies racism into law and then ruthlessly applies it. CRT, affirmative action, disparate impact theory... The Left creates all sorts of racist shit.

That is utter, complete bullshit. Your opinion is subjective, brainwashed crap that is neither "empirical" nor "quantifiable". You're flailing.

Other way around. The Democrats have a long history of subverting democratic elections in the US. Tammany Hall, the Daley machine in Chicago, Huey Long, to name a few. Those are all your "strongman rule" in action. Maduro in Venezuela subverted elections with massive fraud. The Democrats recently tried to increase their ability to subvert elections with legislation like the For the Voter's and John Lewis Voter's acts.

The Left seeks to obtain, then consolidate power followed by instituting laws that prevent them from being turned out of office.

The right is characterized by authoritarianism, nationalism, populism, erosion of electoral integrity (see the 2020 election), suppressing the vote (see limiting polling stations), gerrymandering, disregard for the rule of law (see ignoring court decisions that bother your orange satanic messiah), support for political violence (see endorsing or tolerating acts of aggression, arson, and even murder), anti-pluralism (see viewing certain groups as inherently inferior or a threat, leading to reduced support for civil rights), censorship, and media control.

Authoritarianism is central to Leftist politics. Without significant control and power they cannot implement socialist programs. They can't centralize power in their hands. They can't take over the economy. The Right doesn't want a dictatorship, the Left does.

Fucking bullshit. The only party that has advocated a dictatorship in American history is the RepublicKKKans'.

They are. Communism is just a variant of Socialism. It's one of many types. What you describe as Communism in your last sentence IS a form of Socialism. Socialism, in any form, seeks to place control of the economy to one degree or another in the hands of the government and expects the population to act altruistically. Socialism cannot work if the population is not altruistic either by choice or force. Since altruism is counterintuitive to human nature, Socialism must be forced on the population and the only way to do that is institute an authoritarian, central, dictatorship over society.

No, they are not the same, moron. I already explained the differences to you and won't repeat myself here since it clearly went over your head the first time.

Fascism is not an economic system. Fascism uses Socialism just like Communism does as its economic system. That Fascism chooses to use statist capitalism--like China does today, and yes China is now Fascist rather than Communist even if they say otherwise--as opposed to some other form of Socialism doesn't change that it's using Socialism.

I never said fascism is an economic system. Try again.

This is untrue. The difference between the Right and Left here is the Right seeks equality in liberty and equality of opportunity while the Left seeks equality through repression and servitude.

That is, the Right sees this as you are born equal and have the opportunity and liberty to succeed or fail on your own merits. Outcomes are neither guaranteed nor will they be equal. This means you can soar to new heights or end up penniless, but you get to choose.

On the Left, equality is forced by government through laws that restrain those that can do more and achieve more while giving those that do little or achieve nothing an equal share. Outcomes are guaranteed and equal. This means the best and brightest are held down and society devolves to the least common denominator.

You are a thoroughly brainwashed cultist. You are so blinded by your irrational hatred for the left that you can't even tell the truth.

That I can agree to.

Literally everything you said is wrong. You don't understand politics in any sort of organized fashion using any sort of empirical, quantitative, data. You simply parrot what other mindless academics and know-nothings have said.

I could give you a masterclass in politics, but you wouldn't comprehend a word of it. You have no formal education and have no standing in this conversation. You're a rabid partisan without a glint of intellectualism. The "mindless academics", too, know a fuck ton more about political science than you ever will.

 

[Diesel]

No the point is not YOUR VIEW of what you say they are trying to do but not accomplishing when we have ACTUAL and FACTUAL things we can point to that Trump is doing right now.


If i play your game i can create a list of MY VIEW of what Trump is trying to do in the future and this discussion becomes pointless as we are just discussing each other fantasy lists.

Trump is actively attacking free markets and free trade to impose a BIG GOV'T version more similar to Russia or Cuba.

Trump is actively attacking Universities and Law firms and Media companies, and 1st amendment freedoms in the same way Putin and most of the authoritarian leaders (left or right) from S.America and eastern Europe have in the past.

Trump is saying he will have a say in how these companies sell, merge and can operate in the future.

These are not your fantasy list and are real and can be cited.

Terry's a lost cause and a lost soul. He has no clue what he's trying to talk about.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Terry's a lost cause and a lost soul. He has no clue what he's trying to talk about.

I have every clue what I'm talking about. It is you that simply keeps regurgitating the same crap from idiot academics about what is Left and Right in politics.

 

[Diesel]

I have every clue what I'm talking about. It is you that simply keeps regurgitating the same crap from idiot academics about what is Left and Right in politics.

No, Terry, you dumb fucking moron, you don't. I noticed you skipped over my post dripping with sources, citations, reasoning, and arguments. You're a clown.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

No, Terry, you dumb fucking moron, you don't. I noticed you skipped over my post dripping with sources, citations, reasoning, and arguments. You're a clown.

Yea, yea. I read it. Not impressed. Two of the easiest degrees colleges offer. Nothing special there. Not a single independent thought of your own.

Riddle me this: Where do sovereign citizens fit politically?

 

[Diesel]

Yea, yea. I read it. Not impressed. Two of the easiest degrees colleges offer. Nothing special there. Not a single independent thought of your own.

Riddle me this: Where do sovereign citizens fit politically?

I'm not answering any more of your questions. You made a bunch of bullshit claims. I thoroughly destroyed you. I know you're not man enough to admit your mistakes, so I'm not going to bestow any more of my superior knowledge and intellect on you.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I'm not answering any more of your questions. You made a bunch of bullshit claims. I thoroughly destroyed you. I know you're not man enough to admit your mistakes, so I'm not going to bestow any more of my superior knowledge and intellect on you.

No, you just regurgitated the same nonsense. Which is more Leftist, nationalism or internationalism? Why?

 

[Diesel]

No, you just regurgitated the same nonsense. Which is more Leftist, nationalism or internationalism? Why?

No, I never posted any nonsense, and I never repeated myself.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

No, I never posted any nonsense, and I never repeated myself.

Explain where each lies politically. Nationalism versus internationalism. You've brought this up repeatedly. You say nationalism is on the Right, internationalism is on the Left. But the two want essentially the same exact thing just on different scales, national versus global. So why is one on the Right and one on the Left?

Come on Mr. Poly Sci, use that fancy degree and explain that dichotomy.

 

[Diesel]

Explain where each lies politically. Nationalism versus internationalism. You've brought this up repeatedly. You say nationalism is on the Right, internationalism is on the Left. But the two want essentially the same exact thing just on different scales, national versus global. So why is one on the Right and one on the Left?

Come on Mr. Poly Sci, use that fancy degree and explain that dichotomy.

Sigh. You're so fucking stupid.

Nationalism is right wing because of its emphasis on tradition, cultural homogeneity, and prioritizing national interests.

Internationalism is left wing for promoting global cooperation, universal human rights, and challenging borders.

See how easy that was? Seriously, read a textbook and stop asking me freshman level questions.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Sigh. You're so fucking stupid.

Nationalism is right wing because of its emphasis on tradition, cultural homogeneity, and prioritizing national interests.

Internationalism is left wing for promoting global cooperation, universal human rights, and challenging borders.

So, insignificant weasel wording differences. The only real difference is one is more limited in scope than the other. Internationalism can promote cultural homogeneity and global interests. Either can call on tradition.

One World Order, globalism... Not a nickel's worth of difference between that and nationalism.

See how easy that was? Seriously, read a textbook and stop asking me freshman level questions.

See how easy that was? You seriously need to stop listening to idiot academics who are spewing nonsense disguised as intellect.

 

[Diesel]

So, insignificant weasel wording differences. The only real difference is one is more limited in scope than the other. Internationalism can promoted cultural homogeneity and global interests. Either can call on tradition.

One World Order, globalism... Not a nickel's worth of difference between that and nationalism.

See how easy that was? You seriously need to stop listening to idiot academics who are spewing nonsense disguised as intellect.

No, not "insignificant weasel wording differences". You just don't like that I'm right. You can't deal with reality because it conflicts with your warped view of the world, which is formed entirely by your rabid, irrational partisanship and nothing else. You are not a thinking person. Nationalism is the opposite of internationalism.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

No, not "insignificant weasel wording differences". You just don't like that I'm right. You can't deal with reality because it conflicts with your warped view of the world, which is formed entirely by your rabid, irrational partisanship and nothing else. You are not a thinking person. Nationalism is the opposite of internationalism.

You're not correct. You threw out some terms that could be applied to either and then expected me to accept that. You can't deal with the reality that your views of Left and Right are built on ill-defined nonsense and cherry-picked observations.

I've thought this through far better than you have.

In broadest terms, nationalism seeks to bring a nation together, internationalism seeks to bring the world together. The difference is just a matter of scope. Both have the same end goal. Listing a few methods by which one or the other might achieve that goal is largely irrelevant.

 

[Diesel]

You're not correct. You threw out some terms that could be applied to either and then expected me to accept that. You can't deal with the reality that your views of Left and Right are built on ill-defined nonsense and cherry-picked observations.

I've thought this through far better than you have.

In broadest terms, nationalism seeks to bring a nation together, internationalism seeks to bring the world together. The difference is just a matter of scope. Both have the same end goal. Listing a few methods by which one or the other might achieve that goal is largely irrelevant.

Nope. Their end goals are diametrically opposed. You haven't thought through anything. You've allowed your mind to be rotted by alt Reich propaganda. You view everything through the lens of partisanship. Your frame of reference is strictly American, and even then, it's wrong. You don't have the flimsiest grasp on political science or political theory. You're about as sharp as Stone, RB 60, Yakuda, TDAK, anonymoose, Legion and his infinite socks, gfm7175, Into the Night and his innumerable socks, TOP, Uncensored2008, goat, et al. You're all clueless, uneducated simple folk.