christiefan915
Catalyst
I didn't agree with Obama's decision on Libya and said so at the time. Try and keep up.
Why did the U.S. ban support of the Contras?
And if you don't like getting groaned, stop insulting my friends.
No evidence White House involved in ‘Fast and Furious’
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I didn't agree with Obama's decision on Libya and said so at the time. Try and keep up.
Why did the U.S. ban support of the Contras?
And if you don't like getting groaned, stop insulting my friends.
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
I see you realized how stupid your "giving a gun to your child" comment was and deleated it.
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The Almighty
there was an alleged third gun recovered. I say alleged because the ATF agents stated a third F&F weapon was recovered, but there were only two tested for ballistics. The third has allegedly disappeared.
But officially, at least as of right now, only two weapons were recovered from that and both were F&F guns.
I realize this is sarcasm, but it's pretty much true. The Mexican cartels have lots of money and lots of access to high powered artillery.
In the grand scheme of things, it isn't a big deal. It was a stupid operation and that's about it. It's only a big deal because Republicans can get their followers whipped into a frenzy about acts of war and murder of border patrol agents and think that if they make enough noise they'll claim a scalp.
christiefan915
Catalyst
It's not a Q.E.D.
What it indicates to me is how much hyperbole and partisanship have become the norm since IC.
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The Almighty
Which doesn't change the facts:
1) The US government went behind the backs of the Mexicans and allowed assault weapons to cross the border into the hands of criminals
2) those criminals then used those weapons from the US Government to kill innocent Mexicans as well as Agent Terry
Saying 'oh well, they would have just used other guns' is an excuse. A pathetic excuse at that. It doesn't alter the fact that the law was broken.
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The Almighty
Be sure to send your thoughts to the Terry family.
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Darla
Send yours to the families of the one millions IRaqis you killed.
Or give it a rest.
You should do the same to the Martin family.
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-May-Face-Death-Penalty&p=1000546#post1000546
zappasguitar
Well-known member
See, that the part of this they don't want to discuss...
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Why can't He?
After all, you allow the little evidence you have to walk you done the path to the answer you wanted to find, so why can't others?
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
Then why, with such great and grand connections and materials, would they go and pay RETAIL (I.E. higher than black market prices) for 2000 guns? Would that money not be better suited for other things? Like political bribes, or increasing their distribution network?
I mean seriously, let's break this down. Suppose they bought absolutely cheap as fuck guns, like a HiPoint C9. They're around $130 out the door. That would mean they spent over $250,000 dollars on guns that they supposedly don't even need. And since you're adding the prospect that they have access to high grade weapons, then they wouldn't even bother with the HiPoints.
Now yes, in several cases funds were furnished by the ATF, so in those instances free guns are free guns.
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The Almighty
More emo BS from Darla. he is dismissing this as no big deal.
That said, do link us up to your 'millions of dead Iraqis' data... also are you referring to the millions who starved to death under Saddam and the sanctions? Those raped and murdered by his regime? Or are you referring to those killed by Al Queda? or are you pretending the US killed a million Iraqi's?
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The Almighty
Yet we have discussed this. It is obviously possible other weapons were used, hell I want to discuss the possibility that the Pope was there in full Rambo attire taking out Mexicans and then moving on to Agent Terry. I mean we can't prove that didn't happen either.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Actually, if we know the agent's time of death then we CAN prove the Pope wasn't involved merely by checking his calendar and seeing if anyone can vouch for his whereabouts.
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Darla
I guess I really struck a nerve when I called you emo last week, because you have gone even further with your usual six-year old "I know you are but what am i neener neener neener" crap.
I was referring to the one million (as estimated by some organizations) Iraqis killed in the war you supported. Since we will never know the exact figures because so many were disintegrated, maybe you want to take the pentagon's numbers at face value? Okay, get started on those calls then. Either way you got a lot of calls to make. I expect DH will be back from his one call months before you get done with yours.
What laws were broken? Name them.
I asked previously what illegal conduct occurred and you said murder at which point I noted that guns don't kill people, people kill people. And then we went down that road until we got back to where we started.
