NOT GOING BACK

[NiftyNiblick]

Not going back is a admirable goal,
but our Constitution prevents us from going too far forward.

Newer, more modern democracies,
which would constitute just about all the other ones from ourself,
were founded on the principle of maximizing the common good.

Whether that's good or bad is a matter of personal values and opinion.
That's not what this is about.

America, the oldest continuously operating democracy,
was by choice not founded that way.

Our Constitution was written to maximize the autonomy and likely success
of the individual white male property holder.

That's the core foundation.
Any amendments can only take us so far from that.
If we wanted to do it right, we'd have to start over;

And if we tried to start over, we wouldn't ever again agree on the same constitution.
Partition would be inevitable.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

So we're all in agreement?

 

[Yakuda]

Not going back is a admirable goal,
but our Constitution prevents us from going too far forward.

Newer, more modern democracies,
which would constitute just about all the other ones from ourself,
were founded on the principle of maximizing the common good.

Whether that's good or bad is a matter of personal values and opinion.
That's not what this is about.

America, the oldest continuously operating democracy,
was by choice not founded that way.

Our Constitution was written to maximize the autonomy and likely success
of the individual white male property holder.

That's the core foundation.
Any amendments can only take us so far from that.
If we wanted to do it right, we'd have to start over;

And if we tried to start over, we wouldn't ever again agree on the same constitution.
Partition would be inevitable.

We already have "partition"you dimwitted piece of shit they are called states. The thing is you leftist cockroaches have demanded and gotten ever increasing power centralized to the federal govt so you could control states as well and now you're whining. This is why nothing you idiots ever say should be taken seriously. Besides all that most of the major cities in America have been run by democrats for decades and and they are all shit holes. The last thing we need is advice from you morons.

 

[Publius]

We already have "partition"you dimwitted piece of shit they are called states. The thing is you leftist cockroaches have demanded and gotten ever increasing power centralized to the federal govt so you could control states as well and now you're whining. This is why nothing you idiots ever say should be taken seriously. Besides all that most of the major cities in America have been run by democrats for decades and and they are all shit holes. The last thing we need is advice from you morons.

Yeah, fuck you. Crime is higher in red states.

Do red states report higher rates of violent crime than blue states? – Gigafact

gigafact.org

You're so fucking stupid you don't understand how causality works.

But, I'll guess I'll have to put on my teacher hat, stoop down to your fuckwit level, and explain it to you.

People flock to cities who are poor because it's easier to survive in cities than it is in rural areas.

Poor people perceive that Democrats are more willing to help them than Republicans so cities are disportionately administered by Dems.

Crime is higher in urban areas because there are more people in urban areas.

Criminals choose cities to commit crimes in them because commiting crimes is easier in cities.

These facts occur irrespective of who is in office.

The 'city' i.,e the urban environment is the cause, not 'democrats'. It wouldn't fucking matter who was the mayor. it would happen anyway.

You want proof? Each of these cities are high in crime, higher than the national average, and republican run.

1. Tulsa, Oklahoma (Mayor: Republican G.T. Bynum) – Tulsa’s violent crime rate is significantly higher than the national average, including high rates of assault and homicide. The violent crime rate is 6.87 per 1,000 residents.
2. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (Mayor: Republican David Holt) – Oklahoma City also faces violent crime issues, with a rate higher than the national average, particularly in categories like aggravated assault. The violent crime rate is 642 per 100,000 individuals.
3. Jacksonville, Florida (Mayor: Republican Donna Deegan) – Jacksonville consistently has a higher violent crime rate, with elevated levels of homicide and assault. The violent crime rate is 12.43 per 1,000 residents.
4. Fort Worth, Texas (Mayor: Republican Mattie Parker) – Fort Worth struggles with violent crime that exceeds the national average, including a high number of aggravated assaults. The violent crime rate is 5 per 1,000 residents
5. Fresno, California (Mayor: Republican Jerry Dyer) – Fresno’s violent crime rate is well above the national average, especially in terms of assault and robbery. The violent crime rate is 865 per 100,000 individuals
6. Miami, Florida (Mayor Republican Francis Suarez)has a higher crime rate compared to the national average. The chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Miami is 1 in 341. The overall crime rate in Miami is 30 crimes per 1,000 residents

If it were true, your claim, then the stats in these repub cities would be lower than the national average, and they are not.

Congratulations on being the dumbest twit on this forum.

 

[Diogenes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1847761523051045038

 

[TravisBickle]

Our Constitution was written to maximize the autonomy and likely success
of the individual white male property holder.

That's racist thinking. If that were true, then only white property owners would be allowed to vote.
You're talking out your rear.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Not going back is a admirable goal,
but our Constitution prevents us from going too far forward.

A good thing. Too much government is a bad thing.

Newer, more modern democracies,
which would constitute just about all the other ones from ourself,
were founded on the principle of maximizing the common good.

Human nature means forced altruism by government will never succeed.

Whether that's good or bad is a matter of personal values and opinion.
That's not what this is about.

You cannot force humans to be altruistic. That's a matter of fact. It's why heavy-handed socialism always fails.

America, the oldest continuously operating democracy,
was by choice not founded that way.

Again, a good thing.

Our Constitution was written to maximize the autonomy and likely success
of the individual white male property holder.

That has shifted over time to individuals of any stripe.

That's the core foundation.
Any amendments can only take us so far from that.
If we wanted to do it right, we'd have to start over;

And what would you suggest as the model?

And if we tried to start over, we wouldn't ever again agree on the same constitution.
Partition would be inevitable.

Or, domination by government. Authoritarian dictatorships usually arise from a revolution. The US revolution in the 18th century was a singular case of that not happening, almost a miracle.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Yeah, fuck you. Crime is higher in red states.

Do red states report higher rates of violent crime than blue states? – Gigafact

gigafact.org

You're so fucking stupid you don't understand how causality works.

But, I'll guess I'll have to put on my teacher hat, stoop down to your fuckwit level, and explain it to you.

People flock to cities who are poor because it's easier to survive in cities than it is in rural areas.

Poor people perceive that Democrats are more willing to help them than Republicans so cities are disportionately administered by Dems.

Crime is higher in urban areas because there are more people in urban areas.

Criminals choose cities to commit crimes in them because commiting crimes is easier in cities.

These facts occur irrespective of who is in office.

The 'city' i.,e the urban environment is the cause, not 'democrats'. It wouldn't fucking matter who was the mayor. it would happen anyway.

You want proof? Each of these cities are high in crime, higher than the national average, and republican run.

1. Tulsa, Oklahoma (Mayor: Republican G.T. Bynum) – Tulsa’s violent crime rate is significantly higher than the national average, including high rates of assault and homicide. The violent crime rate is 6.87 per 1,000 residents.
2. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma (Mayor: Republican David Holt) – Oklahoma City also faces violent crime issues, with a rate higher than the national average, particularly in categories like aggravated assault. The violent crime rate is 642 per 100,000 individuals.
3. Jacksonville, Florida (Mayor: Republican Donna Deegan) – Jacksonville consistently has a higher violent crime rate, with elevated levels of homicide and assault. The violent crime rate is 12.43 per 1,000 residents.
4. Fort Worth, Texas (Mayor: Republican Mattie Parker) – Fort Worth struggles with violent crime that exceeds the national average, including a high number of aggravated assaults. The violent crime rate is 5 per 1,000 residents
5. Fresno, California (Mayor: Republican Jerry Dyer) – Fresno’s violent crime rate is well above the national average, especially in terms of assault and robbery. The violent crime rate is 865 per 100,000 individuals
6. Miami, Florida (Mayor Republican Francis Suarez)has a higher crime rate compared to the national average. The chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Miami is 1 in 341. The overall crime rate in Miami is 30 crimes per 1,000 residents

If it were true, your claim, then the stats in these repub cities would be lower than the national average, and they are not.

Congratulations on being the dumbest twit on this forum.

Actually, per capita, the states with the highest crime rates are generally blue, Democrat run ones:

Which states have the highest and lowest crime rates? | USAFacts

Between 2021 and 2022, New York’s violent crime rate rose 39.2%, while its property crime rate rose 64.3%.

usafacts.org

The exception to that is property crime tends to be highest in states that are closest to our Southern border...

Crime rate by state U.S. 2023| Statista

In 2023, the state with the highest crime rate in the United States per 100,000 inhabitants was New Mexico.

www.statista.com

The top three for overall crime are Dirty City (Washington DC), New Mexico, and Louisiana.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/crime-and-corrections/public-safety/violent-crime-rate

Seems the trend is the more urbanized a state is, the higher the crime rate is. The exception to that appears to be states with a high percentage of Native Americans, like New Mexico.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

That's racist thinking. If that were true, then only white property owners would be allowed to vote.
You're talking out your rear.

That's exactly how it was before amendments. White MALE property owners.

 

[Diogenes]

That's exactly how it was before amendments. White MALE property owners.

That's true.

Voting Rights Milestones in America: A Timeline | HISTORY

See a timeline of milestones in American voting rights history.

www.history.com

We've come a long way since, but not far enough.

 

[TravisBickle]

That's exactly how it was before amendments. White MALE property owners.

That was excellent wasn't it?

In fact, look at how much trouble we've gotten into since women got the vote.
(You couldn't wait for me to say that.)

I'll add; especially childless cat ladies.
(You're loving that now)

 

[Yakuda]

Actually, per capita, the states with the highest crime rates are generally blue, Democrat run ones:

Which states have the highest and lowest crime rates? | USAFacts

Between 2021 and 2022, New York’s violent crime rate rose 39.2%, while its property crime rate rose 64.3%.

usafacts.org

The exception to that is property crime tends to be highest in states that are closest to our Southern border...

Crime rate by state U.S. 2023| Statista

In 2023, the state with the highest crime rate in the United States per 100,000 inhabitants was New Mexico.

www.statista.com

The top three for overall crime are Dirty City (Washington DC), New Mexico, and Louisiana.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/crime-and-corrections/public-safety/violent-crime-rate

Seems the trend is the more urbanized a state is, the higher the crime rate is. The exception to that appears to be states with a high percentage of Native Americans, like New Mexico.

It's amazing what leftists can deny. Just about every major city in America has been run by Democrats for decades and they are horrible places to live.