Obama: Dems Should Not Pass Healthcare With a 50-Plus-1 Strategy

and there it is folks....the whimper of nigel's bang surrender

as i thought all along, you don't give a shit about what obama promised and oft preached about passing significant legislature and he even specifically pointing out healthcare....you would rather be smug and morally bankrupt by claiming i am whining because i point out obama's words and hypocrisy. i'll remember that the next time you're pointing out hypocrisy or holding someone to their word, its just whining.....

hack


I'm not surrendering anything. I'm simply moving on. The bottom line is that the healthcare reform bill passed the Senate with 60 votes. You refuse to accept reality, so I'm moving on. End of story.

That you continue to whine and whine and whine is hilarious.
 
more excuses for your dems....more excuses for obama....more pointing the finger at republicans when it is your dems and obama pulling a fast on americans

you've cowardly gone from...its only budget issues, so the republicans shouldn't whine....to....well, they can do whatever they want

whats truly sad, is that you don't realize how big of a hack you are...you will stop at nothing to defend obama and the dems, even if it causes you to change your stance, whatever they decide, fuck what they say, its just whining if they lied and people call them on it

your old name fit well nigel....


I was actually just pointing out the way the process works. You seem terribly confused.
 
dungpile

you are truly a sorry hack. i find the more we debate, the more i realize you are nothing but a democratic hack. when your position becomes indefensible, you're most likely to fall back on....well they did it too, or well, don't like change the leader....

its too bad you see voicing my political opinions about your dear leader's hypocritical and now outright dishonest statements, as whining. again, shows your true hack colors.

you've gone from saying, its only budget stuffsss, to....well, they can put anything they want into it....and yet you're still stupidly clinging to the hack notion that the final bill will not be passed using the 50+1 method. that you've spent all this time trying to argue its not, is truly embarrassing.
 
dungpile

you are truly a sorry hack. i find the more we debate, the more i realize you are nothing but a democratic hack. when your position becomes indefensible, you're most likely to fall back on....well they did it too, or well, don't like change the leader....

its too bad you see voicing my political opinions about your dear leader's hypocritical and now outright dishonest statements, as whining. again, shows your true hack colors.

you've gone from saying, its only budget stuffsss, to....well, they can put anything they want into it....and yet you're still stupidly clinging to the hack notion that the final bill will not be passed using the 50+1 method. that you've spent all this time trying to argue its not, is truly embarrassing.


You should try some relaxation techniques. You seem terribly worked up in addition to terribly confused.

Your opposition to Obama doesn't bother me at all. It's the way you go about it. It is whiny. That's all there is to it. I mean, "but he said that 50+1 isn't the right strategy" is suck weak ass sauce that I can't believe a grown man who presumably argues for a living is resorting to it, particularly when in the end not only will the actual Senate healthcare reform bill have passed with 60 votes in favor, but the separate reconciliation bill will likely pass with 55+ votes in favor.

And, for the record, I'm not saying the Democrats can do whatever they want. I'm saying that what the Democrats are doing is well within the rules of the House and Senate and that all this whining about process rings particularly hollow from Republicans and their bootlickers.


P.S. Last word.
 
P.S. Last word.

its not your last word, unless you're finally stating to all your whimper of a surrender is now a bang....congrats if so

You should try some relaxation techniques. You seem terribly worked up in addition to terribly confused.

irony is fun isn't....project away nigel

Your opposition to Obama doesn't bother me at all. It's the way you go about it. It is whiny. That's all there is to it. I mean, "but he said that 50+1 isn't the right strategy" is suck weak ass sauce that I can't believe a grown man who presumably argues for a living is resorting to it, particularly when in the end not only will the actual Senate healthcare reform bill have passed with 60 votes in favor, but the separate reconciliation bill will likely pass with 55+ votes in favor.

of course it bothers you, that is why you have so strenuously tried to debate me on the issue. see....you pull out the whine card, or should i spell it 'wine' for you. because you're presentation in this debate is nothing short of a drunk giving a happy speech at his going away party, when he was in fact fired.

you can't argue around the fact that you just admitted you will accept anything to get the final bill passed, even using the 50+1 strategy. you call it weak, you call it whiny............what you haven't been able to do is show i am wrong. so, you resort to the whiny, weak argument because you have nothing else and you know it. you're not even debating points anymore, you're simply repeating ad nauseam.....whiner, whiner, weak.....


And, for the record, I'm not saying the Democrats can do whatever they want. I'm saying that what the Democrats are doing is well within the rules of the House and Senate and that all this whining about process rings particularly hollow from Republicans and their bootlickers.

yes you are and yes you did. you started out with budget only.....then ended up with....ok, they can do whatever the grandwizard says is ok. i don't give a shit about your complaints regarding republicans and their bootlickers. if you want to pen me as solely a republican every time we debate, then you're only losing every time we debate.

though, that should be normal for you by now :)
 
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