Obama equates capitalism with slavery!!

Yep. Areshives doesn't understand that the right to "Trade" is 100s of thousands of years old. But he knows he wants to take away that right.

The right to trade has no age. It simply exists. No worries from anchovies or any other promoting tyranny. It is not possible to take away that right. It is an absolute right.
 
"But just because an economic system generated wealth and innovation doesn’t mean it guarantees a good society," Obama said. "Because from the outset, market-based systems have been compatible with slavery, caste systems, colonialization, war, exploration, corruption, fraud, autocracy, the poisoning of our natural environment."
As Obama listed, the audience applauded. The former president went on to credit Democratic governments for "moderating capitalism's excesses" with a "social safety net." According to him, it will take "young leaders to help us think and act anew" about "creating an economic system that supports and sustains our democratic values."

"Especially after the Great Depression and World War II, governments began making public investments in education and transportation, scientific research, and in housing projects," Obama said.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...d-systems-compatible-with-slavery/ar-AA1jo3Up
 
"Because from the outset, market-based systems have been compatible with slavery, caste systems, colonialization, war, exploration, corruption, fraud, autocracy, the poisoning of our natural environment."

All of those things developed under socialist monarchies.

Capitalism ended slavery because free men can NOT compete against slave labor.
Capitalism provides class mobility against the caste system.
Capitalism has given colonies independence.
Capitalism wants peace and stability so Trade and Investing can be done safely and securely.
Obama thinks "exploration" is bad. :palm:
Capitalism wants truth in advertising, not fraud & corruption.
Autocracy is socialist monarchy.
Capitalism saved the trees and whales with fossil fuels.
 
"But just because an economic system generated wealth and innovation doesn’t mean it guarantees a good society," Obama said. "Because from the outset, market-based systems have been compatible with slavery, caste systems, colonialization, war, exploration, corruption, fraud, autocracy, the poisoning of our natural environment."
As Obama listed, the audience applauded. The former president went on to credit Democratic governments for "moderating capitalism's excesses" with a "social safety net." According to him, it will take "young leaders to help us think and act anew" about "creating an economic system that supports and sustains our democratic values."

"Especially after the Great Depression and World War II, governments began making public investments in education and transportation, scientific research, and in housing projects," Obama said.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...d-systems-compatible-with-slavery/ar-AA1jo3Up

Slavery, caste systems, war, corruption, fraud, autocracy, and buzzword like 'poisoning the natural environment' is all DEMOCRATS.

Capitalism IS a good society. It is the only economic system that create wealth. Slavery is not capitalism. Caste systems is not capitalism. War is not capitalism. Corruption is not capitalism. Fraud is not capitalism. The environment isn't poisoned. Capitalism is not an 'excess'. The Great Depression was caused by socialism, not capitalism.

Communism and fascism doesn't work. Obama is just a fascist and communist, and he's quoting his own book.

The last time a book like this was written using words like these was "Mein Kampf", by Adolph Hitler.

Then, of course, is Biden's infamous 'Red Speech', where he called for civil war against conservatives.
 
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All of those things developed under socialist monarchies.

Capitalism ended slavery because free men can NOT compete against slave labor.
Capitalism provides class mobility against the caste system.
Capitalism has given colonies independence.
Capitalism wants peace and stability so Trade and Investing can be done safely and securely.
Obama thinks "exploration" is bad. :palm:
Capitalism wants truth in advertising, not fraud & corruption.
Autocracy is socialist monarchy.
Capitalism saved the trees and whales with fossil fuels.

Fossils aren't used as fuel since fossils don't burn. It was the oil companies that saved the whales. People simply didn't need whale oil lamps anymore.
It was the lumber companies and coal that saved the trees. Lumber companies like Weyerhauser are farmers. They plant literally thousands of trees. The use of coal meant people didn't need so much firewood.
Otherwise correct.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
"But just because an economic system generated wealth and innovation doesn’t mean it guarantees a good society," Obama said. "Because from the outset, market-based systems have been compatible with slavery, caste systems, colonialization, war, exploration, corruption, fraud, autocracy, the poisoning of our natural environment."
As Obama listed, the audience applauded. The former president went on to credit Democratic governments for "moderating capitalism's excesses" with a "social safety net." According to him, it will take "young leaders to help us think and act anew" about "creating an economic system that supports and sustains our democratic values."

"Especially after the Great Depression and World War II, governments began making public investments in education and transportation, scientific research, and in housing projects," Obama said.


All of those things developed under socialist monarchies.

Capitalism ended slavery because free men can NOT compete against slave labor.
Capitalism provides class mobility against the caste system.
Capitalism has given colonies independence.
Capitalism wants peace and stability so Trade and Investing can be done safely and securely.
Obama thinks "exploration" is bad. :palm:
Capitalism wants truth in advertising, not fraud & corruption.
Autocracy is socialist monarchy.
Capitalism saved the trees and whales with fossil fuels.
Typical Maga mook tactic....ignore all else and just post out of context excerpts. I've restored the entire quote for the reading audience. Now I'll deconstruct your blather piece by piece.

1. Really? Because you had another century of it's cousin "Jim Crow" that didn't end until 1968. And right up to today you have numerous cases prosecuted in courts across the land dealing with "red-lining" and such. So capitalism as you see it can't seem to function without some form of slavery, indentured servitude, second class citizenry, etc. Then there was this https://theconversation.com/what-really-started-the-american-civil-war-205281

2. Not really, as it promotes it's own economic class/caste system. Observe and learn: https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/du4y7/

3. No, that was the WAR OF INDEPENDENCE. For Haiti, all European trade was cut off as punishment for the slaves kicking out their oppressors. So "capitalism" was denied them.

4. Really? Tell that to the Haitians, the Venezuelans, the Cubans, the Indonesians, the Iranians, etc. https://allthatsinteresting.com/us-dictator-alliances

5. You're either a liar or proudly ignorant of the facts:

https://www.space.com/35394-president-obama-spaceflight-exploration-legacy.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-obama-makes-trade-deal-a-top-priority-in-remaining-months/

6. Not really. Case in point: https://www.manatt.com/insights/new...isks-of-false-advertising-when-raising-capita

7. :palm: Please look up the definition of each word before you try to combine them into some type of neologism.

8. :palm: I think you're just saying this guff to get a reaction. My reaction is to educate you: https://kpmg.com/xx/en/home/insights/2022/07/eco-capitalism-is-it-as-green-as-it-seems.html
 
Slavery, caste systems, war, corruption, fraud, autocracy, and buzzword like 'poisoning the natural environment' is all DEMOCRATS.

Capitalism IS a good society. It is the only economic system that create wealth. Slavery is not capitalism. Caste systems is not capitalism. War is not capitalism. Corruption is not capitalism. Fraud is not capitalism. The environment isn't poisoned. Capitalism is not an 'excess'. The Great Depression was caused by socialism, not capitalism.

Communism and fascism doesn't work. Obama is just a fascist and communist, and he's quoting his own book.

The last time a book like this was written using words like these was "Mein Kampf", by Adolph Hitler.

Then, of course, is Biden's infamous 'Red Speech', where he called for civil war against conservatives.

Only a Maga mook would try to redefine plain English statement into some type of code indicative only to the Democratic party. :palm: Sad.

Seems you haven't changed, Squawkie. You still like to revise history and whatever you see to fit your warped right wing wonk BS. This is how I schooled your brethren with the same mindset. Have fun ignoring it: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...pitalism-with-slavery!!&p=5852413#post5852413
 
Typical Maga mook tactic....ignore all else and just post out of context excerpts.
Typical Democrat. Call on topic comments 'out of context'.
I've restored the entire quote for the reading audience. Now I'll deconstruct your blather piece by piece.
Nah. You're just butthurt.
1. Really? Because you had another century of it's cousin "Jim Crow" that didn't end until 1968.
That was because DEMOCRATS.
And right up to today you have numerous cases prosecuted in courts across the land dealing with "red-lining" and such.
DEMOCRATS again.
So capitalism as you see it can't seem to function without some form of slavery,
Slavery isn't capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.
indentured servitude,
Slavery isn't capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.
second class citizenry, etc.
Bigotry isn't capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.
DEMOCRATS started the so-called 'Civil War' (even though it wasn't a civil war). I call it the War of Secession.
2. Not really, as it promotes it's own economic class/caste system. Observe and learn: https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/du4y7/
Bigotry is not capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.
3. No, that was the WAR OF INDEPENDENCE. For Haiti, all European trade was cut off as punishment for the slaves kicking out their oppressors. So "capitalism" was denied them.
Slavery is not capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.
4. Really? Tell that to the Haitians, the Venezuelans, the Cubans, the Indonesians, the Iranians, etc. https://allthatsinteresting.com/us-dictator-alliances
Tell them what?
5. You're either a liar or proudly ignorant of the facts:
You are describing yourself again.
Obama didn't explore space.
Obama's 'deal' was designed to benefit anyone except the United States.
Advertising isn't capitalism. Redefinition fallacy. Bigotry.
7. :palm: Please look up the definition of each word before you try to combine them into some type of neologism.
You are describing yourself again.
8. :palm: I think you're just saying this guff to get a reaction. My reaction is to educate you: https://kpmg.com/xx/en/home/insights/2022/07/eco-capitalism-is-it-as-green-as-it-seems.html
The Church of Green isn't capitalism. It's a religion stemming from the Church of Karl Marx. That's socialism, dude, and DEMOCRATS.
 
Only a Maga mook would try to redefine plain English statement into some type of code indicative only to the Democratic party. :palm: Sad.
Like a typical Democrat. Denying what you have done and what you are.
Seems you haven't changed, Squawkie. You still like to revise history
You are describing yourself again. Inversion fallacy.
and whatever you see to fit your warped right wing wonk BS.
The BS is yours. Inversion fallacy.
This is how I schooled your brethren with the same mindset. Have fun ignoring it: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...pitalism-with-slavery!!&p=5852413#post5852413
Repetition fallacy. This is not education. It is preaching.
 
Typical Maga mook tactic....ignore all else and just post out of context excerpts. I've restored the entire quote for the reading audience. Now I'll deconstruct your blather piece by piece.

1. Really? Because you had another century of it's cousin "Jim Crow" that didn't end until 1968. And right up to today you have numerous cases prosecuted in courts across the land dealing with "red-lining" and such. So capitalism as you see it can't seem to function without some form of slavery, indentured servitude, second class citizenry, etc. Then there was this https://theconversation.com/what-really-started-the-american-civil-war-205281

2. Not really, as it promotes it's own economic class/caste system. Observe and learn: https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/du4y7/

3. No, that was the WAR OF INDEPENDENCE. For Haiti, all European trade was cut off as punishment for the slaves kicking out their oppressors. So "capitalism" was denied them.

4. Really? Tell that to the Haitians, the Venezuelans, the Cubans, the Indonesians, the Iranians, etc. https://allthatsinteresting.com/us-dictator-alliances

5. You're either a liar or proudly ignorant of the facts:

https://www.space.com/35394-president-obama-spaceflight-exploration-legacy.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-obama-makes-trade-deal-a-top-priority-in-remaining-months/

6. Not really. Case in point: https://www.manatt.com/insights/new...isks-of-false-advertising-when-raising-capita

7. :palm: Please look up the definition of each word before you try to combine them into some type of neologism.

8. :palm: I think you're just saying this guff to get a reaction. My reaction is to educate you: https://kpmg.com/xx/en/home/insights/2022/07/eco-capitalism-is-it-as-green-as-it-seems.html

First, I don't do clickbait. Links are to provide a source for a quote. I'm not going to search thru pages and pages to find your argument for you, Lazy.

1. Deflection. Not slavery.
2. Class mobility
3. Haiti lacks the gov't stability and security required for capitalism to thrive.
4. Tell the socialists what?
5. Why is exploration bad according to Obama?
6. Yes, really.
7. What is YOUR definition of Socialism?
8. I'm sorry you are unable to intelligently rebut my statement.
 
Fossils aren't used as fuel since fossils don't burn. It was the oil companies that saved the whales. People simply didn't need whale oil lamps anymore.
It was the lumber companies and coal that saved the trees. Lumber companies like Weyerhauser are farmers. They plant literally thousands of trees. The use of coal meant people didn't need so much firewood.
Otherwise correct.

True, fossils are mineralized lifeform remains. However, tho it is a misnomer, the meaning of the term is widely understood vernacular so I will continue to use it.

There is some truth to your statement about lumber companies, but their contribution is small compared to coal, kerosene, oil etc..
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Typical Maga mook tactic....ignore all else and just post out of context excerpts. I've restored the entire quote for the reading audience. Now I'll deconstruct your blather piece by piece.

1. Really? Because you had another century of it's cousin "Jim Crow" that didn't end until 1968. And right up to today you have numerous cases prosecuted in courts across the land dealing with "red-lining" and such. So capitalism as you see it can't seem to function without some form of slavery, indentured servitude, second class citizenry, etc. Then there was this https://theconversation.com/what-rea...vil-war-205281

2. Not really, as it promotes it's own economic class/caste system. Observe and learn: https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/du4y7/

3. No, that was the WAR OF INDEPENDENCE. For Haiti, all European trade was cut off as punishment for the slaves kicking out their oppressors. So "capitalism" was denied them.

4. Really? Tell that to the Haitians, the Venezuelans, the Cubans, the Indonesians, the Iranians, etc. https://allthatsinteresting.com/us-dictator-alliances

5. You're either a liar or proudly ignorant of the facts:

https://www.space.com/35394-presiden...on-legacy.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preside...aining-months/

6. Not really. Case in point: https://www.manatt.com/insights/news...raising-capita

7. Please look up the definition of each word before you try to combine them into some type of neologism.

8. I think you're just saying this guff to get a reaction. My reaction is to educate you: https://kpmg.com/xx/en/home/insights...-it-seems.html




First, I don't do clickbait. Links are to provide a source for a quote. I'm not going to search thru pages and pages to find your argument for you, Lazy.

1. Deflection. Not slavery.
2. Class mobility
3. Haiti lacks the gov't stability and security required for capitalism to thrive.
4. Tell the socialists what?
5. Why is exploration bad according to Obama?
6. Yes, really.
7. What is YOUR definition of Socialism?
8. I'm sorry you are unable to intelligently rebut my statement.

And there you have it, dear readers. A proud, willfully ignorant Maga Bigdog who thinks he has credibility in a debate by ignoring & denying any information that contradicts his beliefs. Then he just doubles down on his own personal version of reality. Revisionism, repetition, willful ignorance and denial are the watch words for folk like our Big Dumb Maga Dog here. Once I've exposed these idiots for what they are, I just put them on the ignore list for a period .... watching them dog my posts and threads like a bitch in heat. I'll check in on the fool from time to time to see if he's smartened up any. Until then.
 
Typical Democrat. Call on topic comments 'out of context'.

Nah. You're just butthurt.

That was because DEMOCRATS.

DEMOCRATS again.

Slavery isn't capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.

Slavery isn't capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.

Bigotry isn't capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.

DEMOCRATS started the so-called 'Civil War' (even though it wasn't a civil war). I call it the War of Secession.

Bigotry is not capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.

Slavery is not capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.

Tell them what?

You are describing yourself again.

Obama didn't explore space.

Obama's 'deal' was designed to benefit anyone except the United States.

Advertising isn't capitalism. Redefinition fallacy. Bigotry.

You are describing yourself again.

The Church of Green isn't capitalism. It's a religion stemming from the Church of Karl Marx. That's socialism, dude, and DEMOCRATS.


Here's the initial exchange, dear readers https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...pitalism-with-slavery!!&p=5852417#post5852417

And apropos to that https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...pitalism-with-slavery!!&p=5852413#post5852413

This is why I had Squawkie on th ignore list for a LONG time. He's not dealing with a full deck, because one would have to be either mentally unhinged or truly stupid to think the willfully ignorant, convoluted and revisionist clap trap Squawkie lays down makes for a rational debate response.

Once I expose such idiocy as his, I just put it back on the ignore list for indefinite periods, as Squawkie and his like minded ilk are just trolls with delusions of intelligence & cleverness taking up space. He's done and I'm done with him.
 
True, fossils are mineralized lifeform remains. However, tho it is a misnomer, the meaning of the term is widely understood vernacular so I will continue to use it.
Why? This is a term from the Liberal language. It was taught to you in so-called 'school'. No coal, oil, or natural gas comes from fossils or is a fossil.

The 'fossil' term is used because of the chant that we are 'running out' of fuel. Oil and natural gas are renewable fuels. They do not come from fossils. Coal is carbon. That's an element, not a fossil.
There is some truth to your statement about lumber companies, but their contribution is small compared to coal, kerosene, oil etc..
Considering that all houses and buildings use wood in their construction, it's a pretty big deal. Even in a concrete reinforced slab building construction, or brick construction, a lot of wood is used in that building.

As far as firewood, it's use is small BECAUSE of coal, oil, and natural gas; particularly coal.
 
And there you have it, dear readers. A proud, willfully ignorant Maga Bigdog who thinks he has credibility in a debate by ignoring & denying any information that contradicts his beliefs. Then he just doubles down on his own personal version of reality. Revisionism, repetition, willful ignorance and denial are the watch words for folk like our Big Dumb Maga Dog here. Once I've exposed these idiots for what they are, I just put them on the ignore list for a period .... watching them dog my posts and threads like a bitch in heat. I'll check in on the fool from time to time to see if he's smartened up any. Until then.

You are describing yourself again. It is YOU redefining words. YOU cannot blame YOUR problems on anybody else.
 
Why? This is a term from the Liberal language. It was taught to you in so-called 'school'. No coal, oil, or natural gas comes from fossils or is a fossil.

The 'fossil' term is used because of the chant that we are 'running out' of fuel. Oil and natural gas are renewable fuels. They do not come from fossils. Coal is carbon. That's an element, not a fossil.

Considering that all houses and buildings use wood in their construction, it's a pretty big deal. Even in a concrete reinforced slab building construction, or brick construction, a lot of wood is used in that building.

As far as firewood, it's use is small BECAUSE of coal, oil, and natural gas; particularly coal.

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