Obama has trusted Oil way too much...!

[Damocles]

Right, it's a drama queen rant to expect oil companies to figure out what to do when things go wrong before they go wrong instead of after shit has hit the fan. Christ its been over a month and they still can't get the thing capped.

And can you list the 40 examples of greater spills? How many in the past 20 years?

This isn't a "spill", that's like calling Old Faithful a "hot water spill"...

 

[Topspin]

I have, I sent an e-mail but he hasn't answered yet, it's likely he's busy actually doing things that matter.

I thought the bookkeeper might have an idea, he did say he was an expert, that 25 years of doing books made him the most astounding and perfect expert ever. I figure he might even hear somebody nearby say something he could pass on. But no... I forgot he just does figures and isn't even near the people who might know something about it.

You are such a childlike man, Topper.

Nice burn Yuppie Buddah

 

[USFREEDOM911]

My rolodex is not as extensive as the federal government.

This is fucked up logic. If I can't give a name, hiring more people must be impossible for the federal government.

Why don't you go blow some more cops.

Why don't you suck my dick, you pansy assed Liberal; expecially since you appear to have had a lot of practice.

Now that we have our greetings out of the way.
You're professing that there are others that can do the job better then BP and yet you can't say who it would be, that can do this better.
That's just bitching and moaning, on your part, with absolutely nothing to show as a solution.


Since you think that BP isn't trying hard enough; why don't you explain what advantage this oil spill is, to BP, and what they have to gain by making this continiue??
And; if there are others that are qualified, then what does Obama gain by not taking the helm and making himself the hero??

 

[Bonestorm]

list have been all over the net since this one, Again I hope that they are found negligent which will make the industry look better by comparison.
But I can not at this point say it couldn't happen to any of us.

That turbo-lib bullshit is easy to spew when you don't have any clue what's involved. It's over a mile down, the only tougher engineering is in NASA which is why gov caint do it.

First, if the lists are so readily available it shouldn't be too much trouble for you to come up with one.

Second, the difficulties in fixing the problem are exactly the reason why these things should be established before there is a problem as opposed to coming up with these ridiculously named "plans" after the fact. What's next on the list after "Top Kill" fails, the Rusty Trombone?

 

[Topspin]

First, if the lists are so readily available it shouldn't be too much trouble for you to come up with one.

Second, the difficulties in fixing the problem are exactly the reason why these things should be established before there is a problem as opposed to coming up with these ridiculously named "plans" after the fact. What's next on the list after "Top Kill" fails, the Rusty Trombone?

I don't care to provide one of the multiple list of spill to someone clueless about the industry, that's waisting my time as you'd blow it off anyway.
Also it's too early to tell for sure if they were negligent. I think there's plenty of facts that point that way. They pulled the mud out too quick, they didn't pay attention to warning signs, several me on the drilling rig said BP cut plenty saftey corners. That said what they are doing is likely exactly what Exxon or Chevron would to to stop the flow. It's hard to feel with BP's terrible record (15 died in the Texas refinery explosion, the Alaska p/l fiasco) that they aren't worse than our domestic producers.

 

[Damocles]

First, if the lists are so readily available it shouldn't be too much trouble for you to come up with one.

Second, the difficulties in fixing the problem are exactly the reason why these things should be established before there is a problem as opposed to coming up with these ridiculously named "plans" after the fact. What's next on the list after "Top Kill" fails, the Rusty Trombone?

You do know that Top Kill is a well-established and practiced form of plugging such gushers used in the past? No?

Anyway, the only difference here is that top kill that deep hasn't been tried. They are afraid of ice and other things that normally are not a factor.

 

[Bonestorm]

You do know that Top Kill is a well-established and practiced form of plugging such gushers used in the past? No?

Anyway, the only difference here is that top kill that deep hasn't been tried. They are afraid of ice and other things that normally are not a factor.

I know that it has successfully been used before, but not 5,000 feet under water. To suggest that it is a well-established form of plugging gushers 5,000 feet underwater is pretty ridiculous.

I hope it works, but I also hope the powers that be aren't counting on it.

 

[Damocles]

I know that it has successfully been used before, but not 5,000 feet under water. To suggest that it is a well-established form of plugging gushers 5,000 feet underwater is pretty ridiculous.

I hope it works, but I also hope the powers that be aren't counting on it.

Evidence that you didn't read what I posted, you just repeated it. When did you become so partisan that you can't even comprehend what you read any longer?

I'll repeat the salient part:

Anyway, the only difference here is that top kill that deep hasn't been tried. They are afraid of ice and other things that normally are not a factor.

 

[Topspin]

I know that it has successfully been used before, but not 5,000 feet under water. To suggest that it is a well-established form of plugging gushers 5,000 feet underwater is pretty ridiculous.

I hope it works, but I also hope the powers that be aren't counting on it.

there are next to no deepwater incidents since deepwater is only a few years explored and produced.

 

[Damocles]

BTW - The reason they've been waiting is because the Coast Guard had to give permission...