Obama Officially Worse Than Carter

DamnYankee said:
No its my theory on why the Iranians waited until Reagen was inaugurated to release the hostages. With regards to sealing records, your theory is that something was done illegally before Reagan was President, so bring up sealing of Presidential records is an obvious deflection tactic. Or you're just confused. :D
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Uh, no. My theory is that the records contain all the info about his and GHWB's traitorous actions regarding selling arms to the Contras. Nothing to do with releasing the hostages.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
hasn't every president sealed the previous administrations records?.....as I recall, Nixon's just got released this year.....
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Not to the extent of bush's order.

On his first day in office, Obama fulfilled a promise to roll back some Bush administration restrictions on presidential records. He signed an executive order that restored a 30-day time frame for former presidents to review records before they are released. It also eliminated the right for the vice president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews.

If this sounds familiar, it may be because we covered this issue during the Democratic primary. It became a controversy because restrictions put into place under Bush potentially delayed the release of records from Hillary Clinton's time as first lady.

Here's how the release of presidential papers generally works: When a president leaves office, the records of his administration go to the National Archives. After five years, the records are subject to public records requests under the Freedom of Information Act. Professional archivists determine which records should be publicly available, and the current and former presidents have the right to review them as well. The former president is given seven years to claim exemptions for his entire White House archive under the Presidential Records Act of 1978.

Under the FOIA and the Presidential Records Act, exemptions include matters of national security and national defense; invasions of personal privacy such as personnel or medical records; federal appointments; proprietary commercial or financial information; and confidential communications between the president and his advisers.

It used to be that former presidents had to claim an exemption within 30 days of receiving them. But Bush signed an excutive order in 2001 that did away with the timeline, giving former presidents the right to review every document no matter how long it took them.

In the event of a former president's death or disability, it gave the former president the right to designate his family to review records. It also gave the vice president the right to review records.

Obama's executive order, signed Jan. 21, 2009, restored the 30-day time frame for former presidents, and it removed additional review rights for the vice president or the family members of former presidents.

Groups that advocate for open government praised Obama's order.

"It brings us back to the original concept of the Presidential Records Act," said Meredith Fuchs, general counsel for the National Security Archive, an independent nongovernmental research institute affiliated with George Washington University.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/239/release-presidential-records/
 
Superfreak said:
LOL... yeah, 1.5 out of 20 million acres.... Imagine what might have been had they allowed drilling and exploration in the full 20 million... all that oil that many would love to tap into... but now they can't. Imagine what that would have done to help our energy dependency that Carter mentioned.



'73 is irrelevant to Carter. By the time Carter took office GDP growth for 1976 was 5.4%, inflation was at 5.75%. Having greatly receded from the oil crisis of 73/74.

By 1978 inflation was at 7.62 percent and climbing. Part of which certainly was due to the oil price increases. But again, Carter's response was to tell people to conserve and thus consume less, all the while he restricted domestic production... especially in AK.
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What was wrong with telling people to consume less oil, it was the era of the gas guzzler after all.
 
christiefan915 said:
Not to the extent of bush's order.

On his first day in office, Obama fulfilled a promise to roll back some Bush administration restrictions on presidential records. He signed an executive order that restored a 30-day time frame for former presidents to review records before they are released. It also eliminated the right for the vice president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews.

If this sounds familiar, it may be because we covered this issue during the Democratic primary. It became a controversy because restrictions put into place under Bush potentially delayed the release of records from Hillary Clinton's time as first lady.

Here's how the release of presidential papers generally works: When a president leaves office, the records of his administration go to the National Archives. After five years, the records are subject to public records requests under the Freedom of Information Act. Professional archivists determine which records should be publicly available, and the current and former presidents have the right to review them as well. The former president is given seven years to claim exemptions for his entire White House archive under the Presidential Records Act of 1978.

Under the FOIA and the Presidential Records Act, exemptions include matters of national security and national defense; invasions of personal privacy such as personnel or medical records; federal appointments; proprietary commercial or financial information; and confidential communications between the president and his advisers.

It used to be that former presidents had to claim an exemption within 30 days of receiving them. But Bush signed an excutive order in 2001 that did away with the timeline, giving former presidents the right to review every document no matter how long it took them.

In the event of a former president's death or disability, it gave the former president the right to designate his family to review records. It also gave the vice president the right to review records.

Obama's executive order, signed Jan. 21, 2009, restored the 30-day time frame for former presidents, and it removed additional review rights for the vice president or the family members of former presidents.

Groups that advocate for open government praised Obama's order.

"It brings us back to the original concept of the Presidential Records Act," said Meredith Fuchs, general counsel for the National Security Archive, an independent nongovernmental research institute affiliated with George Washington University.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/239/release-presidential-records/
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He is trying to save face for his daddy. He also thought he would clean up daddy's first Gulf War mess, didn't work out as well as he thought, he didn't get the oil.
 
Rana said:
We were told by Bush apologist that the President doesn't control such things, it has now changed back?
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Yeah, remember on AOL when we talked about how good the economy was during the Clinton years, and the righties all said the President has nothing to do with the economy? Now they've done a 180.
 
christiefan915 said:
Yeah, remember on AOL when we talked about how good the economy was during the Clinton years, and the righties all said the President has nothing to do with the economy? Now they've done a 180.
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Your forgot to mention gas going to over $4 a gallon during Bush's last year in office. We were told it was all his fault.
 
christiefan915 said:
Yeah, remember on AOL when we talked about how good the economy was during the Clinton years, and the righties all said the President has nothing to do with the economy? Now they've done a 180.
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Yes, they have, it is hilarious and sad at the same time!
 
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