Obama still hasn't responded to flooding in TN!

I'm arguing, what is the fundamental difference between Obama's FEMA shitshow and Bush's? I don't honestly see much, except it takes Obama 4 days to respond, where Bush responded 3 days before. Other than that, I am seeing the exact same ineptness on the part of FEMA and the Federal response here.... same shitshow, different players!


Actually, you argued that Obama offered "no condolences, no words of encouragement or support, no FEMA housing, no federal assistance... nothing," which is simply not true.
 
Look, if you want to argue that Bush didn't drop the ball with Katrina, go right ahead. And if you want to argue that the FEMA response to Katrina was not a total shitshow, by all means please do so. I'm not going to rehash it all.

My question is specific to Obama and the flooding in Tennessee and has nothing to do with Bush and Katrina. I mean, I understand that you may want to say that Bush was improperly blamed for Katrina so Obama should be improperly blamed for whatever is happening in Tennessee, but at least come up with a plausible argument to support it.


HEY, just like with Katrina; all you have to do is connect the dots.

Obama lied and people died.
 
Obama and RF Kennedy are meeting and will soon announce the flooding disaster was caused by Bush and Cheney....
 
Actually, you argued that Obama offered "no condolences, no words of encouragement or support, no FEMA housing, no federal assistance... nothing," which is simply not true.

Well he didn't until today! During Katrina, by this point in the disaster, Bush already had FEMA trailers sitting on the ground, ready for occupants! Geraldo was relieved to see the suffering people get help by this point! We're coming up on a week into this disaster, and the president is just today starting to take action.
 
Well he didn't until today! During Katrina, by this point in the disaster, Bush already had FEMA trailers sitting on the ground, ready for occupants! Geraldo was relieved to see the suffering people get help by this point! We're coming up on a week into this disaster, and the president is just today starting to take action.


The President is just starting to take action because he was just asked to take action. What part of that are you not understanding?
 
HEY, just like with Katrina; all you have to do is connect the dots.

Obama lied and people died.

AGAIN:

The problem: The federal government did not have a single fire boom on hand as they were required to have.

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View full size(AP Photo/U.S. Coast Guard, Petty Officer 1st Class Justin Sawyer)This April 28, 2010 image made from video released by the Deepwater Horizon Response Unified Command, shows an in situ burn in the Gulf of Mexico, in response to the oil spill after the explosion on the Deepwater Horizon. The "In-Situ Burn" plan produced by federal agencies in 1994 calls for responding to a major oil spill in the Gulf with the immediate use of fire booms.

But in order to conduct a successful test burn eight days after the Deepwater Horizon well began releasing massive amounts of oil into the Gulf, officials had to purchase one from a company in Illinois.

When federal officials called, Elastec/American Marine, shipped the only boom it had in stock, Jeff Bohleber, chief financial officer for Elastec, said today.

At federal officials' behest, the company began calling customers in other countries and asking if the U.S. government could borrow their fire booms for a few days, he said.

A single fire boom being towed by two boats can burn up to 1,800 barrels of oil an hour, Bohleber said. That translates to 75,000 gallons an hour, raising the possibility that the spill could have been contained at the accident scene 100 miles from shore.

"They said this was the tool of last resort. No, this is absolutely the asset of first use. Get in there and start burning oil before the spill gets out of hand," Bohleber said. "If they had six or seven of these systems in place when this happened and got out there and started burning, it would have significantly lessened the amount of oil that got loose."

In the days after the rig sank, U.S Coast Guard Rear Admiral Mary Landry said the government had all the assets it needed. She did not discuss why officials waited more than a week to conduct a test burn. (Watch video footage of the test burn.)

At the time, former National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration oil spill response coordinator Ron Gouguet -- who helped craft the 1994 plan -- told the Press-Register that officials had pre-approval for burning. "The whole reason the plan was created was so we could pull the trigger right away."

Gouguet speculated that burning could have captured 95 percent of the oil as it spilled from the well.

Bohleber said that his company was bringing several fire booms from South America, and he believed the National Response Center discovered that it had one in storage.

Each boom costs a few hundred thousand dollars, Bohleber said, declining to give a specific price.

Made of flame-retardant fabric, each boom has two pumps that push water through its 500-foot length. Two boats tow the U-shaped boom through an oil slick, gathering up about 75,000 gallons of oil at a time. That oil is dragged away from the larger spill, ignited and burns within an hour, he said.

The boom can be used as long as waves are below 3 feet, Bohleber said.

"Because of the complexity of the system and the obvious longer production time to build them, the emphasis is on obtaining and gathering the systems," he said.

Bohleber said his company has conducted numerous tests with the Coast Guard since 1993, and it is now training crews on the use of the boom so workers will be ready when they arrive.

"We're arranging for six to be shipped in. We keep running into delays. Hopefully, they will be here by Wednesday to be available for use on Thursday. Bear in mind, two days ago, we thought they would be here today."
 
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Just a quick note to anyone w/ objectivity: conservatives & Bushies had a really, REALLY hard time with Katrina & its aftermath. For anyone who touted Bush as a "leader" and who believed in him, his utter failure during Katrina was a major embarassment, and rocked their faith.

They have carried that with them for years. Threads like this are understandable.
 
Just a quick note to anyone w/ objectivity: conservatives & Bushies had a really, REALLY hard time with Katrina & its aftermath. For anyone who touted Bush as a "leader" and who believed in him, his utter failure during Katrina was a major embarassment, and rocked their faith.

They have carried that with them for years. Threads like this are understandable.
Stupid remark.
 
Just a quick note to anyone w/ objectivity: conservatives & Bushies had a really, REALLY hard time with Katrina & its aftermath. For anyone who touted Bush as a "leader" and who believed in him, his utter failure during Katrina was a major embarassment, and rocked their faith.

They have carried that with them for years. Threads like this are understandable.

So then, you do understand that Obama is a total failure in his dealing with the flooding in Tennessee.
Thanks :good4u:
 
Just a quick note to anyone w/ objectivity: conservatives & Bushies had a really, REALLY hard time with Katrina & its aftermath. For anyone who touted Bush as a "leader" and who believed in him, his utter failure during Katrina was a major embarassment, and rocked their faith.

They have carried that with them for years. Threads like this are understandable.

Just a quick note. Grooooan.

Groan.
 
The President is just starting to take action because he was just asked to take action. What part of that are you not understanding?

The part where a non-Bush administration would have taken action beforehand, because human lives depended on the Federal government and rapid Federal response to a disaster. Remember all of the "Bush reacted slowly" to Katrina? Or have you forgotten that? Well, Bush acted 3 days prior to Katrina making landfall, without the blessings of the Governor, who had to be prodded for another week by the Bush administration, to issue the appropriate requests for Federal assistance. You see, at the time, the lefties wanted to drag their feet and exacerbate the perception that Bush was aloof and disconnected from the disaster, so they did all they could to stall the usual state procedures and protocol, while pointing their crooked little fingers at Bush and blaming him for the aftermath.
 
The part where a non-Bush administration would have taken action beforehand, because human lives depended on the Federal government and rapid Federal response to a disaster. Remember all of the "Bush reacted slowly" to Katrina? Or have you forgotten that? Well, Bush acted 3 days prior to Katrina making landfall, without the blessings of the Governor, who had to be prodded for another week by the Bush administration, to issue the appropriate requests for Federal assistance. You see, at the time, the lefties wanted to drag their feet and exacerbate the perception that Bush was aloof and disconnected from the disaster, so they did all they could to stall the usual state procedures and protocol, while pointing their crooked little fingers at Bush and blaming him for the aftermath.

You just make up whatever history you want there, Dix.

The real version is already in the history books...
 
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