Obama To Use Bush Cybersecurity Plan

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Cybersecurity Plan to Involve NSA, Telecoms
DHS Officials Debating The Privacy Implications

By Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 3, 2009

The Obama administration will proceed with a Bush-era plan to use National Security Agency assistance in screening government computer traffic on private-sector networks, with AT&T as the likely test site, according to three current and former government officials.

President Obama said in May that government efforts to protect computer systems from attack would not involve "monitoring private-sector networks or Internet traffic," and Department of Homeland Security officials say the new program will scrutinize only data going to or from government systems.

But the program has provoked debate within DHS, the officials said, because of uncertainty about whether private data can be shielded from unauthorized scrutiny, how much of a role NSA should play and whether the agency's involvement in warrantless wiretapping during George W. Bush's presidency would draw controversy. Each time a private citizen visited a "dot-gov" Web site or sent an e-mail to a civilian government employee, that action would be screened for potential harm to the network.

"We absolutely intend to use the technical resources, the substantial ones, that NSA has. But . . . they will be guided, led and in a sense directed by the people we have at the Department of Homeland Security," the department's secretary, Janet Napolitano, told reporters in a discussion about cybersecurity efforts.

Under a classified pilot program approved during the Bush administration, NSA data and hardware would be used to protect the networks of some civilian government agencies. Part of an initiative known as Einstein 3, the plan called for telecommunications companies to route the Internet traffic of civilian agencies through a monitoring box that would search for and block computer codes designed to penetrate or otherwise compromise networks.

AT&T, the world's largest telecommunications firm, was the Bush administration's choice to participate in the test, which has been delayed for months as the Obama administration determines what elements to preserve, former government officials said. The pilot program was to have begun in February.

"To be clear, Einstein 3 development is proceeding," DHS spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said. "We are moving forward in a way that protects privacy and civil liberties."

AT&T officials declined to comment.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/02/AR2009070202771_pf.html

LOL

For someone that condemned every policy President Bush did, OB sure is following the Bush playbook.
 
This is just next generation Carnivore, which has been going on for years.
They must be buying new hardware.
 
Right on; if there is one thing we know about Obama, it's that he's a carbon copy of Bush. You can tell, because conservatives are so effusive in their praise of his policies.

It's like there wasn't any kind of transition at all in January...
 
Right on; if there is one thing we know about Obama, it's that he's a carbon copy of Bush. You can tell, because conservatives are so effusive in their praise of his policies.

It's like there wasn't any kind of transition at all in January...
Ugh..

He seems to pick the crappiest of Bush's stuff to emulate or even make stronger.

NSA listening to you? Cool by Bush, but you could sue... Not so much suing in the Obama Administration, it is their opinion that you can't sue if you are listened on without a warrant by the NSA... If you hold an energy meeting you should never tell people even who attended, because it would cause them to give different advice... things like that.
 
Right on; if there is one thing we know about Obama, it's that he's a carbon copy of Bush. You can tell, because conservatives are so effusive in their praise of his policies.

It's like there wasn't any kind of transition at all in January...


It is pretty funny.

The Bushies trying to prove that Obama is just as bad as they guy they voted for.
 
It is pretty funny.

The Bushies trying to prove that Obama is just as bad as they guy they voted for.

whats even funnier is watching all the die hard libs/dems on here praising Obama as he continues the same crappy policies. Guess Bush wasn't as bad as y'all said he was, eh?
 
whats even funnier is watching all the die hard libs/dems on here praising Obama as he continues the same crappy policies. Guess Bush wasn't as bad as y'all said he was, eh?

No - Bush was terrible.

The idea that Obama's admin is nothing more than an extension of the Bush admin is 100% laughable. It's not even worth debating.
 
whats even funnier is watching all the die hard libs/dems on here praising Obama as he continues the same crappy policies. Guess Bush wasn't as bad as y'all said he was, eh?


What's crappy about this policy?

Oh, and I hear that Obama also uses the White House bathrooms just like Bush. How's that change?
 
No - Bush was terrible.

The idea that Obama's admin is nothing more than an extension of the Bush admin is 100% laughable. It's not even worth debating.

this is exactly what I was talking about.

Damo, we need an emote that has the fingers in ears going ''la la la la, still not listening!!!!"
 
What's crappy about this policy?

you don't see the inherent unconstitutionality of simply denying redress of grievances for wiretapping without a warrant, signed by a judge, based on probable cause?

or are the libs advocating doing away with the 1st and 4th Amendments now?
 
this is exactly what I was talking about.

Damo, we need an emote that has the fingers in ears going ''la la la la, still not listening!!!!"

Just to get things straight: Obama is a radical socialist, whose foreign policy is characterized by "Stuart Smalley" diplomacy that will make America more vulnerable to attack. He has set forth radical plans regarding healthcare, energy & the environment.

Yet, he is exactly like Bush.

Is that about right?
 
Just to get things straight: Obama is a radical socialist, whose foreign policy is characterized by "Stuart Smalley" diplomacy that will make America more vulnerable to attack. He has set forth radical plans regarding healthcare, energy & the environment.

Yet, he is exactly like Bush.

Is that about right?

um, no. what I'M pointing out is how you libs screamed near bloody murder at Bush and his violations of the constitution for implementing policies, like the one in the OP, yet nothing more than a sigh of disappointment at the continuance of these policies by your messiah in chief.

that's the hypocrisy i'm talking about.
 
Ugh..

He seems to pick the crappiest of Bush's stuff to emulate or even make stronger.

NSA listening to you? Cool by Bush, but you could sue... Not so much suing in the Obama Administration, it is their opinion that you can't sue if you are listened on without a warrant by the NSA... If you hold an energy meeting you should never tell people even who attended, because it would cause them to give different advice... things like that.

BAM

Exactly
 
um, no. what I'M pointing out is how you libs screamed near bloody murder at Bush and his violations of the constitution for implementing policies, like the one in the OP, yet nothing more than a sigh of disappointment at the continuance of these policies by your messiah in chief.

that's the hypocrisy i'm talking about.

Oh.

I'd be interested to see the post I made where I criticized this policy, then.
 
you don't see the inherent unconstitutionality of simply denying redress of grievances for wiretapping without a warrant, signed by a judge, based on probable cause?

or are the libs advocating doing away with the 1st and 4th Amendments now?


Well, I opposed that stuff before Congress authorized it. Now that Congress has authorized it what do you expect from Obama? It's the law.
 
did Obama sign that law? so I'm holding his accountable as well as congress. what are YOU doing about it?


Actually, no he didn't. Bush did. Obama voted for it and was rightly criticized for his vote at the time. If anyone expected that Obama would not implement the law he voted for they should have their head examined.

Having said all of that, what does that have to do with this Cybersecurity Plan?
 
Let's see the hands of all the people who DID NOT know Obama was going to be following many dumb ass totalitarian Bush policies?
 
um, no. what I'M pointing out is how you libs screamed near bloody murder at Bush and his violations of the constitution for implementing policies, like the one in the OP, yet nothing more than a sigh of disappointment at the continuance of these policies by your messiah in chief.

that's the hypocrisy i'm talking about.

exactly, many libs and the media constantly bashed bush for the same things and now it is obama, a mere "sigh"....and some even out right defending obama despite having criticized bush

if bush was so, so bad...how is it obama is following similar avenues?
 
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