Obama: U.S. must reverse course with Indians

[DamnYankee]

Once again folks, our chuckling neocon chowderhead just focuses on ONE part of the information and IGNORES everything else....just like I said he would:

Just Plain Politics! - View Single Post - Obama: U.S. must reverse course with Indians

Southie just can't deal with the WHOLE truth. ...

I focus on the information that makes the most sense in a discussion about politics, that a relatively high percentage of Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The Democrats fought against civil rights since the beginning of the country, and even went to war to keep slavery alive. Your "Conscience of the Senate" was in fact a leader in the KKK, which is the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Once again folks, our chuckling neocon chowderhead just focuses on ONE part of the information and IGNORES everything else....just like I said he would:

Just Plain Politics! - View Single Post - Obama: U.S. must reverse course with Indians

Southie just can't deal with the WHOLE truth. ...

I focus on the information that makes the most sense in a discussion about politics, that a relatively high percentage of Democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

No, you focus on ONE ASPECT of the information, as the link shows. You IGNORE other information that supports my contentions and takes the wind out of your sails. Since ALL the information is about politics, your assertion here is moronic at best.

The Democrats fought against civil rights since the beginning of the country, and even went to war to keep slavery alive. Your "Conscience of the Senate" was in fact a leader in the KKK, which is the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party.

Yeah, and when the tide changed and the GOPers voted with the Dixiecrats to maintain the status quo, THEY LOST. The Old KKK member publically renounced his old ways and backed up his words with Congressional action. Times changed, and the roles reversed....something you just can't and won't accept. TFB for you, history and the facts are not about your myopic viewpoint. You've got nothing to disprove my points regarding Obama, the Shrub and the Native Americans...so you regurgitate this old lament of yours (which has nothing to do with the discussion at hand). You're done.

 

[Taichiliberal]

1. A debate point for me, followed by another of your baseless KKK accusations. The KKK is a terrorist wing of the Democrat Party, of which I am not a member. No one said you were, dimwit. You're just in agreement with the watered downed mindfarts that can be found on Stormfront or Duke's site or with Dixie's blatherings.
2. Being Caucasian doesn’t equate with white supremacy, I never stated or alluded to such. If you can quote me as doing so, then please do. If not, blow it out your ass. and again, I’ve never touted myself as Caucasian. Well, then you have some serious psychological problems, because you seem hell bent on justifying/defending the pseudo-intellectual BS found in the writings of white supremacists. Get help.3. I moved to The South for a better life for my family after becoming disgusted with the racist and liberal northeast. That is why I consider myself a Southern Man. You're so full of shit....you won't identify yourself ethnically or racially, yet you bullhorn about northern racism, and then mouth the platitudes found in the rantings of Confederate apologist and white supremacists. Typical lame game playing by Duke acolytes with delusion of intellectualism. 4. You called me a liar: that I have supported the Confederate flag, now prove it or recant. You stated on this thread that you considered flying the Conferderate Flag a matter of free speech, yet you DENIED the inherent racist conclusions of such speech. Slavery was NOT a benign after thought, but it sure is treated as such by bigots doing a snow job on the Confederacy...of which you try to hide under the guise of a simple constitutional right. YOU HAVE FREE SPEECH...HAVE THE GUTS TO ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES AND CONCLUSIONS OF THAT SPEECH.
5. You claim that I “have supported and defended EVERY blessed major policy and action of the last 8 years. Prove it or recant. Enter your screen name in the search mode, and pick out every political thread regarding Obama dealing with war policies, etc. 6. You also claim that my “ramblings are dead on mimics of the crap and "logic" found in old David's writings”. Prove it or recant. See your bullshit about the Confederate Flag here....also, your little ditty about blacks and asians being naturally homophobic was a real eyeopener.
7. You also claim that I have “repeated all the moronic justifications that those dopes have publically[sic] issued.” Prove it or recant. See above
8. I again challenge you to prove your racist accusations against me here.

See above.

All you're going to do is deny something, then if I provide proof, you deny it and change the subject, then you deny the orginial statements, and it's back to square one. SOS with you again and again. You just can't deal with being accurately called on why you're assertions, contentions, statements, etc. are wrong. You don't have a god damned thing of worth to say regarding my statements here about Obama, the Shrub and Native Americans. So it's off on your convoluted logic merry-go-round with you wailing, "you can't answer my question, you are wrong."

you're full of it, Southie...and you can lie, deny and BS until doomsday. But the threads are here, and people remember. Get one of the other neocon numbskulls to have maudlin causcus that'll sooth your ego. You've fininshed.

 

[DamnYankee]

Yeah, and when the tide changed and the GOPers voted with the Dixiecrats to maintain the status quo, THEY LOST. The Old KKK member publically renounced his old ways and backed up his words with Congressional action. Times changed, and the roles reversed....something you just can't and won't accept. TFB for you, history and the facts are not about your myopic viewpoint. You've got nothing to disprove my points regarding Obama, the Shrub and the Native Americans...so you regurgitate this old lament of yours (which has nothing to do with the discussion at hand). You're done.

Now learn the real history from Frances Rice:

The Racists Democrats did not all Join the Republican Party

Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats today, the racist "Dixiecrats" did not all migrate to the Republican Party. With the party slogan: "Segregation Forever!," the Dixiecrats, who were Democrats, (a) formed the States' Rights Democratic Party for the presidential election of 1948, (b) remained Democrats for all local elections and all subsequent national elections, and (c) declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than a Republican because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.

Today, some of those "Dixiecrats" continue their political careers as Democrats, including former Democrat Senator Ernest Hollings who put up the Confederate flag over the state capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina.

Another former "Dixiecrat" is Democrat Senator Robert Byrd who is well known for having been a "Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan. There was no public outcry when Democrat Senator Christopher Dodd praised Senator Byrd as someone who would have been "a great senator for any moment," including the Civil War. Democrats denounced Senator Trent Lott for his remarks about Senator Strom Thurmond. However, Senator Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and, after he became a Republican, defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Senator Byrd and Senator Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.

Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” was not a Racist Appeal

Democrats expressed no concern when the racially segregated South voted solidly for Democrats; yet unfairly deride Republicans because of the thirty-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party that began in the 1970's with President Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy.” Nixon’s strategy was an effort on the part of Nixon to get fair-minded people in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were discriminating against blacks. Georgia did not switch until 2004, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, was still controlled by Democrats until the election of Republican Bobby Jindal in 2007.

Frances Rice is a lawyer, retired Army Lieutenant Colonel and Chairman of the National Black Republican Association. She may be contacted at: www.NBRA.info

 

[DamnYankee]

See above.

All you're going to do is deny something, then if I provide proof, you deny it and change the subject, then you deny the orginial statements, and it's back to square one. SOS with you again and again. You just can't deal with being accurately called on why you're assertions, contentions, statements, etc. are wrong. You don't have a god damned thing of worth to say regarding my statements here about Obama, the Shrub and Native Americans. So it's off on your convoluted logic merry-go-round with you wailing, "you can't answer my question, you are wrong."

you're full of it, Southie...and you can lie, deny and BS until doomsday. But the threads are here, and people remember. Get one of the other neocon numbskulls to have maudlin causcus that'll sooth your ego. You've fininshed.

1. You have accused me of being in agreement with David Duke and Stormfront. Prove it or recant.
2. Here is your quote asserting that all Southern Caucasians are racists: “What bigotry? I call you on what YOU write, jackass. I don't know if you're a man or woman.. [sic] but you describe yourself as a caucasian [sic] man that resides in the Southern United States with ancestory [sic] specific to that region.”
3. I have no reason to identify myself ethnically or racially, as these are irrelevant to my belief system. Anyone who thinks otherwise, which apparently includes you, is racist and bigoted. You claim that I “mouth the platitudes found in the rantings of Confederate apologist and white supremacists”; prove it or recant.
4. Flying the Confederate flag is free speech, along with burning the US flag. I encourage both, as it helps me and others to identify racists and America haters.
5. It’s not my job to prove your allegations. Again, prove them or recant.
6. Considering my actual opinion of the Confederate flag issue as stated above, I find your allegation without warrant.
7. See above.
8. See above.

 

[DamnYankee]

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Libby, here's something that I wrote over two years ago That is relevant to some of the points that you are failing to make. I challenge you to equate this with writings of Duke, or anyone.

To understand what happened to the KKK you have to have an understanding of American political history, and especially the Civil War. When the Union was formed there was a great division between what eventually became Southern Democrats and Northern Republicans, based on economic theory. The Democrats believed (still do) in the medieval belief that there is a finite limit to societal wealth (zero sum gain), and in order for a man to be rich there must be poor. Therefore they have always segregated men into races and classes to ensure the status of the elite. The Republicans believed (most still do) that there is no limit to societal wealth, and although there will always be rich and poor, the rich do not take from the poor, in fact “a rising tide lifts all boats”.

In order for the colonies to win freedom from England, however, the differences in economic beliefs needed to put aside in favor of unity. The strategy was sound and successful, although set the new country up for a future struggle that culminated in the Civil War.

At the end of that great war, General Lee, commander of the Confederacy, surrendered as a gentleman. But certain Southern Democrats would have none of that, and thus the KKK was created, and became the de-facto terrorist wing of the Democrat Party.

With the rise of conservatism throughout the country and growth in the Republican Party in the South, subsequent crackdowns diminished the KKK presence in the 1960s and 70s to near zero. The Democrats, realizing their terror strategy would not be tolerated, embraced Liberalism as the new method of choice to subjugate the black race in America. Robert Byrd, a former KKK member, now reigns in his 40-odd year career as “The Conscience of the Senate”, and the Liberal impact on the American black family has been far more devastating than anything the KKK could have hoped for. Liberal policies of welfare (income without work), abortion on demand, no-fault sex, “Affirmative Action” (racial quotas), insistence on diversity, moral relativism, weak public schools and “soft on crime” have created illegitimacy rates among American blacks as high as 90% in some cities.

The KKK has all but disappeared, harbored by a few pitiful souls who never figured out the new direction taken by their Party to enforce their medieval economic beliefs. Most of these individuals even claim to be Republicans, stupidly assuming that distaste for racial quotas is due to prejudice.

 

[belme1201]

Now learn the real history from Frances Rice:

NBRA funded by and located where? Fake history, MLK was no more a Republican than I am. They are a bogus, politically inpired scarecrow for white Republicans eho wanted to taki a bite out of Dem majorities in narrowly Black districts. The history you need to check is theirs before you accept their version. Rice is but a bought and paid for lackey. They deny suppression of their own people extended by the GOP Southern Strategy.

 

[Damocles]

It's actually very likely that MLK voted republican, before the Civil Rights act and the abandonment of the D party by the Southern Democrats, African-Americans voted pretty much republican in the same amounts they vote Democrat now.

 

[meme]

I was thinking back on where I'd heard someone else talking about the Native Americans..

 

[Taichiliberal]

Now learn the real history from Frances Rice:

The Racists Democrats did not all Join the Republican Party

Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats today, the racist "Dixiecrats" did not all migrate to the Republican Party. With the party slogan: "Segregation Forever!," the Dixiecrats, who were Democrats, (a) formed the States' Rights Democratic Party for the presidential election of 1948, (b) remained Democrats for all local elections and all subsequent national elections, and (c) declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than a Republican because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.

Today, some of those "Dixiecrats" continue their political careers as Democrats, including former Democrat Senator Ernest Hollings who put up the Confederate flag over the state capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina.

Another former "Dixiecrat" is Democrat Senator Robert Byrd who is well known for having been a "Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan. There was no public outcry when Democrat Senator Christopher Dodd praised Senator Byrd as someone who would have been "a great senator for any moment," including the Civil War. Democrats denounced Senator Trent Lott for his remarks about Senator Strom Thurmond. However, Senator Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and, after he became a Republican, defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Senator Byrd and Senator Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.

Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” was not a Racist Appeal

Democrats expressed no concern when the racially segregated South voted solidly for Democrats; yet unfairly deride Republicans because of the thirty-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party that began in the 1970's with President Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy.” Nixon’s strategy was an effort on the part of Nixon to get fair-minded people in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were discriminating against blacks. Georgia did not switch until 2004, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, was still controlled by Democrats until the election of Republican Bobby Jindal in 2007.

Frances Rice is a lawyer, retired Army Lieutenant Colonel and Chairman of the National Black Republican Association. She may be contacted at: www.NBRA.info

Oh My God....you are such a steriotypical bigot that you believe if some black person parrots the same BS as you do, that makes it legit? Puh-leeze! You had black folk telling you that the Confederacy was correct, slavery wasn't that bad, Martin Luther King was moving to fast, etc., etc. The NBRA had it's 15 minutes under Reagan and the Bush family.....times up. Reality kicked their asses and the American public of ALL races, creeds and religions voted that BS out fair and square. Everything Rice states you previously parroted. It was addressed, deconstructed and dismissed. Repeating it 6 ways to Sunday won't change the past. Deal with it, or in your case, don't. The previous posts are your undoing.

AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY STATMENTS ABOUT OBAMA AND NATIVE AMERICANS. As usual, when you can't disprove or refute what I say, you start your bigoted BS about black folk. Go wash your sheet somewhere else.

 

[Taichiliberal]

It's actually very likely that MLK voted republican, before the Civil Rights act and the abandonment of the D party by the Southern Democrats, African-Americans voted pretty much republican in the same amounts they vote Democrat now.

Yep, a simple matter of fact that jokers like Southie just can't or won't accept. All this has NOTHING to do with the discussion of Obama on Native Americans...but it's Southie fall back whenever he can't disprove something I write. He's got a serious axe to grind with me...and his obsession with black people in America is borderline.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Libby, here's something that I wrote over two years ago That is relevant to some of the points that you are failing to make. I challenge you to equate this with writings of Duke, or anyone.

You just keep regurgitating the same old shit over and Over and OVER! I've already addressed the issues and deconstructed your myopia and revisionism.

http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF1503/Berry/Berry.html

 

[Taichiliberal]

1. You have accused me of being in agreement with David Duke and Stormfront. Prove it or recant. Already done. You don't like it and can't accept it, but you can't logically or factually refute it. TFB.2. Here is your quote asserting that all Southern Caucasians are racists: “What bigotry? I call you on what YOU write, jackass. I don't know if you're a man or woman.. [sic] but you describe yourself as a caucasian [sic] man that resides in the Southern United States with ancestory [sic] specific to that region.” An out of context quote...I was referring to TWO different accusations of yours...that I should have known that you were a man, and that you NEVER identified yourself as cuacasian. STOP LYING.
3. I have no reason to identify myself ethnically or racially, as these are irrelevant to my belief system. Yet you are continuously interject and carry on about black people....constantly highlighting negative half truths, hyperbole and distortion. But you're a coward, so now you are trying to hide, thinking it gives your bilge validity. Hint: it doesn't. Anyone who thinks otherwise, which apparently includes you, is racist and bigoted. Yeah, because when you stated that blacks and asians are generally homophobic, that wasn't something some ignorant, bigoted non-black or non-asian would say. Blow it out your ass, you clown. You claim that I “mouth the platitudes found in the rantings of Confederate apologist and white supremacists”; prove it or recant. Already did that in previous posts...your denying it is just dumb, as you'll trip over your own words shortly in a self contradiction.
4. Flying the Confederate flag is free speech, along with burning the US flag. I encourage both, as it helps me and others to identify racists and America haters. Right, because the defense of slavery as a side issue is something non-racists and bigots do. Sorry asshole, but the Confederacy DEFENDED state rights to own slaves...so all your bullshit is just that, BS from a closed bigot. Thanks for proving my point, asshole.
5. It’s not my job to prove your allegations. Again, prove them or recant. A lame dodge on your part.
6. Considering my actual opinion of the Confederate flag issue as stated above, I find your allegation without warrant. Of course you do, because your full of it....you try to separate slavery from the Confederacy. You can't....history won't let you. TFB for you and all the gutless, two faced bigots and racist that try to pass off that pseudo-intellectual claptrap as rationalization.7. See above. where you prove my point, again.
8. See above.

Where you prove my point...again.

YOU STARTED THIS...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA AND NATIVE AMERICANS. Go grind your axe somewhere else....then wipe it on your sheet.

 

[belme1201]

It's actually very likely that MLK voted republican, before the Civil Rights act and the abandonment of the D party by the Southern Democrats, African-Americans voted pretty much republican in the same amounts they vote Democrat now.

I have also voted for Republicans in the past, that does not, obviously, make me a Republican.
Pre "Southern Strategy", Blacks did not represent very many votes in the South where most lived, because of suppression of their right to vote(poll taxes, literacy tests, threats of violence) by the same bigots being courted and won over by the GOP in the "Southern Strategy". Their acceptance of the Dems came with their migration, post-WWII, to the industrialized North along with the Southern Democrat's conversion to the Republican Party with the, GOP coined, "Southern Strategy" policy. The "Solid South" of the Southern Democrats then is now the "Solid South" of the GOP.
The NBRA is a bogus front operation selling bogus history.

 

[DamnYankee]

I have also voted for Republicans in the past, that does not, obviously, make me a Republican.
Pre "Southern Strategy", Blacks did not represent very many votes in the South where most lived, because of suppression of their right to vote(poll taxes, literacy tests, threats of violence) by the same bigots being courted and won over by the GOP in the "Southern Strategy". Their acceptance of the Dems came with their migration, post-WWII, to the industrialized North along with the Southern Democrat's conversion to the Republican Party with the, GOP coined, "Southern Strategy" policy. The "Solid South" of the Southern Democrats then is now the "Solid South" of the GOP.
The NBRA is a bogus front operation selling bogus history.

Your historical facts are flawed, and your attacks on the NBRA are baseless.

 

[DamnYankee]

Oh My God....you are such a steriotypical bigot that you believe if some black person parrots the same BS as you do, that makes it legit? Puh-leeze! You had black folk telling you that the Confederacy was correct, slavery wasn't that bad, Martin Luther King was moving to fast, etc., etc. The NBRA had it's 15 minutes under Reagan and the Bush family.....times up. Reality kicked their asses and the American public of ALL races, creeds and religions voted that BS out fair and square. Everything Rice states you previously parroted. It was addressed, deconstructed and dismissed. Repeating it 6 ways to Sunday won't change the past. Deal with it, or in your case, don't. The previous posts are your undoing.

AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY STATMENTS ABOUT OBAMA AND NATIVE AMERICANS. As usual, when you can't disprove or refute what I say, you start your bigoted BS about black folk. Go wash your sheet somewhere else.

How ironic: when you can't disprove or refute what I say, you make more baseless allegations of racism. LOL

 

[DamnYankee]

You just keep regurgitating the same old shit over and Over and OVER! I've already addressed the issues and deconstructed your myopia and revisionism.

YouTube- Griffin tells KKK plan to "sell" nazi BNP as "democratic" - then smash democracy


http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF1503/Berry/Berry.html

You failed to equate my writings with writings of Duke, or anyone.

 

[DamnYankee]

Where you prove my point...again.

YOU STARTED THIS...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA AND NATIVE AMERICANS. Go grind your axe somewhere else....then wipe it on your sheet.

1. You provided no such proof. Again, you made the accusation, therefore it is our responsibility to back it up. You failed again.
2. You are clearly confused, at best.
3. How ironic. I don’t “carry on about black people”; I defend myself against your baseless accusations of racism.
4. You proved no point yet repeat the same baseless allegation.
5. Actually, fact: you failed to prove your allegation.
6. You’re trying to equate the Confederacy with my support of free speech; they are unrelated.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Oh My God....you are such a steriotypical bigot that you believe if some black person parrots the same BS as you do, that makes it legit? Puh-leeze! You had black folk telling you that the Confederacy was correct, slavery wasn't that bad, Martin Luther King was moving to fast, etc., etc. The NBRA had it's 15 minutes under Reagan and the Bush family.....times up. Reality kicked their asses and the American public of ALL races, creeds and religions voted that BS out fair and square. Everything Rice states you previously parroted. It was addressed, deconstructed and dismissed. Repeating it 6 ways to Sunday won't change the past. Deal with it, or in your case, don't. The previous posts are your undoing.

AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY STATMENTS ABOUT OBAMA AND NATIVE AMERICANS. As usual, when you can't disprove or refute what I say, you start your bigoted BS about black folk. Go wash your sheet somewhere else.

How ironic: when you can't disprove or refute what I say, you make more baseless allegations of racism. LOL

You're a liar, as the chronological record of this thread shows. You can deny all you want, but you can't erase the posts. Laugh clown, laugh.

 

[Taichiliberal]

You failed to equate my writings with writings of Duke, or anyone.

you're a liar, as the posts shows. YOU made the statment that blacks and asians are generally homophobic. YOU made the statement that flying the Confederate flag has nothing to do with racism and is just freedom of speech.

The video I show is a prime example of how bigots think they are intellectualizing their racism by trying to adhere to certain terminology. You attempt to do the same thing here. TFB for you that anyone with an 8th grade education can see through that malarky.

You're done, and all the denial, lying and whining on your part won't change the proof and logic of the posts.