Obamacare 'Glitch' Allows Some Families To Be Priced Out Of Health Insurance

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WASHINGTON — Some families could get priced out of health insurance due to what's being called a glitch in President Barack Obama's overhaul law. IRS regulations issued Wednesday failed to fix the problem as liberal backers of the president's plan had hoped.

As a result, some families that can't afford the employer coverage that they are offered on the job will not be able to get financial assistance from the government to buy private health insurance on their own. How many people will be affected is unclear.

The Obama administration says its hands were tied by the way Congress wrote the law. Officials said the administration tried to mitigate the impact. Families that can't get coverage because of the glitch will not face a tax penalty for remaining uninsured, the IRS rules said.

"This is a very significant problem, and we have urged that it be fixed," said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, an advocacy group that supported the overhaul from its early days. "It is clear that the only way this can be fixed is through legislation and not the regulatory process."

But there's not much hope for an immediate fix from Congress, since the House is controlled by Republicans who would still like to see the whole law repealed.

The affordability glitch is one of a series of problems coming into sharper focus as the law moves to full implementation.

Starting Oct. 1, many middle-class uninsured will be able to sign up for government-subsidized private coverage through new health care marketplaces known as exchanges. Coverage will be effective Jan. 1. Low-income people will be steered to expanded safety-net programs. At the same time, virtually all Americans will be required to carry health insurance, either through an employer, a government program, or by buying their own plan.

Bruce Lesley, president of First Focus, an advocacy group for children, cited estimates that close to 500,000 children could remain uninsured because of the glitch. "The children's community is disappointed by the administration's decision to deny access to coverage for children based on a bogus definition of affordability," Lesley said in a statement.

The problem seems to be the way the law defined affordable.

Congress said affordable coverage can't cost more than 9.5 percent of family income. People with coverage the law considers affordable cannot get subsidies to go into the new insurance markets. The purpose of that restriction was to prevent a stampede away from employer coverage.

Congress went on to say that what counts as affordable is keyed to the cost of self-only coverage offered to an individual worker, not his or her family. A typical workplace plan costs about $5,600 for an individual worker. But the cost of family coverage is nearly three times higher, about $15,700, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

So if the employer isn't willing to chip in for family premiums – as most big companies already do – some families will be out of luck. They may not be able to afford the full premium on their own, and they'd be locked out of the subsidies in the health care overhaul law.

Employers are relieved that the Obama administration didn't try to put the cost of providing family coverage on them.

"They are bound by the law and cannot extend further than what the law provides," said Neil Trautwein, a vice president of the National Retail Federation.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...ut-of-health-care_n_2585695.html#slide=809602
 
Obamacare is a mess all over. Without question, it is poorly written legislation.

But then again, what else would you expect when you allow the health insurance industry to write the legislation that was supposed to reign in the health insurance industry.
 
Congress said affordable coverage can't cost more than 9.5 percent of family income. People with coverage the law considers affordable cannot get subsidies to go into the new insurance markets. The purpose of that restriction was to prevent a stampede away from employer coverage.
A lot of speculation, 'ifs', 'estimates', and wholesale fearmongering.

What the article claims is that the 9.5% only applies to an individual plan, as opposed to a family plan?

I find that hard to believe. Likewise, the 'estimate' for the cost of an individual plan is low, and the 'estimate' for family coverage is high.

If the cost can't exceed app 10% of insured's income, then a person paying the 'estimated' $15k/year for insurance is earning $150k/year or more.

Hardly struggling to get by.
 
WASHINGTON — Some families could get priced out of health insurance due to what's being called a glitch in President Barack Obama's overhaul law. IRS regulations issued Wednesday failed to fix the problem as liberal backers of the president's plan had hoped.

As a result, some families that can't afford the employer coverage that they are offered on the job will not be able to get financial assistance from the government to buy private health insurance on their own. How many people will be affected is unclear.

I predicted this very outcome. you idiot obamacare supporters told me I didn't know what I was talking about.
 
I predicted this very outcome. you idiot obamacare supporters told me I didn't know what I was talking about.

Are you insane?

I voted for Obama .. either time?

I haven't been pointing out the failures of Obamacare since it was first introduced?

This isn't my thread once again pointing out the failures of Obamacare .. which I not only predicted, but posted the evidence of why it was such a disaster?

Are you sure you're talking to the right person?
 
The Obama administration says its hands were tied by the way Congress wrote the law. Officials said the administration tried to mitigate the impact.

Let's hear it for republican obstructionism!


But there's not much hope for an immediate fix from Congress, since the House is controlled by Republicans who would still like to see the whole law repealed.

Let's hear it for republican obstructionism!

It's time to face the facts. Universal healthcare is bound to happen, sooner or later. Obamacare is a compromise deal to placate the republicans and teabaggers. What should have been passed, and will be passed eventually, is single payor health insurance.

Medicare for all!
 
Let's hear it for republican obstructionism!




Let's hear it for republican obstructionism!

It's time to face the facts. Universal healthcare is bound to happen, sooner or later. Obamacare is a compromise deal to placate the republicans and teabaggers. What should have been passed, and will be passed eventually, is single payor health insurance.

Medicare for all!

Who allowed Congress and the health insurance industry to write the bill?

What led to the republican takeover of the House?

If you can't even get "glitches" fixed .. how do you think single-payer is going to get passed?

Who took single-payer and Medicare-for-All OFF the table even before negotiations began?

Progressives HAD the opportunity, support, and momentum to get real health reform done.

They blew it.
 
Let's hear it for republican obstructionism!




Let's hear it for republican obstructionism!

It's time to face the facts. Universal healthcare is bound to happen, sooner or later. Obamacare is a compromise deal to placate the republicans and teabaggers. What should have been passed, and will be passed eventually, is single payor health insurance.

Medicare for all!
I don't believe the speculation offered in this Huffpo piece.

It's fearmongering. Of course there will be myriad glitches to work out, as there are with all new legislation.

First, the IRS already stated that there will be no penalty for these supposed cases. So if people want to remain uninsured due to the fact that $150k/year isn't enough to afford insurance, they won't be penalized.
 
Are you insane?

I voted for Obama .. either time?

I haven't been pointing out the failures of Obamacare since it was first introduced?

This isn't my thread once again pointing out the failures of Obamacare .. which I not only predicted, but posted the evidence of why it was such a disaster?

Are you sure you're talking to the right person?
a thousand apologies, bac. you have consistently pointed out all the flaws and failures of this law, as I have, and while you are an obama supporter, you're certainly not an idiot obama supporter. this class of people definitely does not include you.
 
a thousand apologies, bac. you have consistently pointed out all the flaws and failures of this law, as I have, and while you are an obama supporter, you're certainly not an idiot obama supporter. this class of people definitely does not include you.
He was never an Obama supporter. Don't let his skin color skew your perception

He's always been a 3rd party guy
 
I don't believe the speculation offered in this Huffpo piece.

It's fearmongering. Of course there will be myriad glitches to work out, as there are with all new legislation.

First, the IRS already stated that there will be no penalty for these supposed cases. So if people want to remain uninsured due to the fact that $150k/year isn't enough to afford insurance, they won't be penalized.
first, this is why most of america is in shambles. we not only allow, but approve of, any new legislation to be passed with a promise of good benefit, KNOWING that there will be glitches to fix later and that some people will suffer harshly and unjustly, but most of you don't really care because it doesn't affect you.

secondly, your 150k number is all wrong and undermines the whole claim made before this shit was passed that the middle class wouldn't be affected and by your attempt at minimizing the disadvantages and handicaps incurred by those affected shows you really don't give a damn about the suffering imposed upon those.
 
a thousand apologies, bac. you have consistently pointed out all the flaws and failures of this law, as I have, and while you are an obama supporter, you're certainly not an idiot obama supporter. this class of people definitely does not include you.

Thanks but .. what Althea said.
 
a thousand apologies, bac. you have consistently pointed out all the flaws and failures of this law, as I have, and while you are an obama supporter, you're certainly not an idiot obama supporter. this class of people definitely does not include you.

fwiw, bac hasn't been an Obama supporter since about four months into his 2007 campaign.
 
I'm all in favor of shitting on Obamacare because it's fun, but maybe we should focus on the many millions of people that will be able to procure health insurance as a result of the law as opposed to the few that the law mistakenly doesn't help. I mean, these people are priced out of the healthcare market now. Obamacare didn't do that.
 
If Americans want to truly take back government, they have to get the money out of politics - at every level.

If I hear that "money is speech" one more time, I'll lose my friggin' mind. Money is not speech; it is influence and power. There shouldn't be lobbyists in Washington, or campaign spending beyond a set limit. There should be no corporate money to be found anywhere near any politician.
 
Also, too, assuming that the health insurance industry wrote the law, wouldnt they want these families to get government subsidies to buy their product? I don't really get that criticism in this context.
 
I'm all in favor of shitting on Obamacare because it's fun, but maybe we should focus on the many millions of people that will be able to procure health insurance as a result of the law as opposed to the few that the law mistakenly doesn't help. I mean, these people are priced out of the healthcare market now. Obamacare didn't do that.
horseshit. obamacare DOES do that, or is there another law out there we aren't aware of that causes them to be priced out?
 
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