Obama’s October Surprise: Largest War Games in US-Israeli History

c'est la vie said:
Nice sentiments, but you could make the same argument for any other part of the budget. With all due respect, perhaps you should put your money where your mouth is (if you aren't already) and give your own time and money to those causes, as I do.
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I provide quite a lot in income and time (volunteering) as I believe that is what I should do as a Christian. But I will always advocate for the government to help provide for these as well. I say again, take care of those here at home then help others a we can. I look at it like a family. I don't donate or volunteer to the point that I cut my family short of what they need to live. They are my first priority. I think the US government should operate by the same initiative.

1 Timothy 5:8
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
 
c'est la vie said:
Nice sentiments, but you could make the same argument for any other part of the budget. With all due respect, perhaps you should put your money where your mouth is (if you aren't already) and give your own time and money to those causes, as I do.
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Why don't you give your own time and money to Israel? And when they need more bodies, feel free to volunteer for that too.
 
leaningright said:
My sentiments exactly. While Israel is AN ally they are not the only ally. I do wish we'd take care of problems here at home and then use what's left to help other countries. Does that make me an isolationist?
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It's so funny how you took out my curse words. LOL

No, I don't think it's isolationist to want to help others, but to help here first.
 
Darla said:
It's so funny how you took out my curse words. LOL

No, I don't think it's isolationist to want to help others, but to help here first.
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My kids read this board from time to time so I do try to "edit" when I use the quote feature as I don't want them to think that I am condoning something I teach them not to do. I miss them sometimes but I do try. That's why I rarely respond to Grind and lately Mott. :)
 
Darla said:
We do? Why? Is Israel like a demanding, jealous husband and we have to be dragged down the aisle to a recommitment ceremony every three months? Does America have to walk around with a "I'm Israel's Bitch" tattooed on our posterior?
Hands off I belong to him!

WTF?

No one cares if we pronounce our love for England or France. But with Israel it's always, why are you seeing other people? I saw you looking at him! Did you hit ignore when I called your cell? Where are you? When are you getting home? Who was that guy you were talking to?

That shit is just not for me.
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France and England aren't surrounded continuously by screaming savages who want to vaporize their countries. Get over yourself, Dearthla.

God, you liberals are self absorbed.
 
leaningright said:
My kids read this board from time to time so I do try to "edit" when I use the quote feature as I don't want them to think that I am condoning something I teach them not to do. I miss them sometimes but I do try. That's why I rarely respond to Grind and lately Mott. :)
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I understand. Has Mott gotten vulgar? I betcha SF has finally driven him over the edge. He almost did to me too you know.
 
Darla said:
I understand. Has Mott gotten vulgar? I betcha SF has finally driven him over the edge. He almost did to me too you know.
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Lol...yes, somewhat lately. BTW, glad you didn't leave for good. You (and some others) help remind me to keep my far right views more balanced.
 
blackascoal said:
I do believe that war with Iran is coming after the election.
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We have a report from the guy,Chossudovsky, who's been referred to as a "nutty professor" and works for GlobalResearch.org, known for being a holocaust denier and source of many crazy conspiracy theories, including (natch) your recent 9/11 conspiracy, but also includes the theory that our government has weapons that can change the climate.

Then we have Maariv, a decidedly sword-rattling far right Israeli newspaper.

There will be no war. The (sane) Israeli's, who far outnumber the neocons, won't allow it. Sorry, my friend.
 
c'est la vie said:
Nice sentiments, but you could make the same argument for any other part of the budget. With all due respect, perhaps you should put your money where your mouth is (if you aren't already) and give your own time and money to those causes, as I do.
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One is not in contrast to the other. You can be involved with community as I do .. AND, you can speak truth to power at the same time. In fact, they go hand in hand.
 
blackascoal said:
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Israel’s daily Maariv reported yesterday that the long delayed war games between U.S. and Israeli forces will take place in October. It noted that some commentators are calling it a “dress rehearsal” for the aftermath of an Israeli attack on Iran. IDF sources quoted in the article called the exercises “of immense importance.”

These will be the largest such military maneuvers in the history of the joint U.S.-Israel relationship. They were originally scheduled for several months ago but were canceled abruptly, according to some, at the behest of Ehud Barak, who wanted to send a message to the U.S. that Israel might be planning an attack and prefer not to have such an event interfere with it.

Three thousand U.S. Air Force personnel and a larger IDF contingent will focus on air warfare and missile defense. The primary goal is to prepare for the aftermath of an Israeli attack on Iran and the expected counterattack against Israel.

The date of the war games is no accident, coming only a few weeks before the presidential election. They will thus serve two purposes: shoring up Jewish support for Obama’s campaign and reassuring Israel that the U.S. will provide it every weapon money can buy to defend itself should it counterattack Iran. One expects that all this might be predicated on an Israeli commitment not to attack Iran quite yet — perhaps not until sometime after Nov. 4?

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What is particularly disturbing in all this is that the U.S. seems to be inching ever closer to supporting an Israeli attack on Iran. While Obama and his officials have appeared to be reigning in Netanyahu, holding him back from an attack, this type of military preparation serves as a wink and a nod to such supposed efforts at restraint.

The end result is that if Israel does attack, it will be able to point to this military exercise as an example of U.S. encouragement of such an approach. Bibi will quite reasonably argue: Why did you show us all this missile defense hardware designed to protect us in the event we strike Iran, if you didn’t expect us to do so? And he will be right.

Further, military preparations of this sort indicate an acceptance by the U.S. that diplomacy can’t possibly work. Instead of serving as a threat toward Iran, as Obama might argue, that this is what lies in store if it doesn’t negotiate in good faith, it may instead be seen as a cynical statement by us that we ourselves don’t believe negotiations can work. In other words, it could be a self-fulfilling prophecy that leads to war.

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Meanwhile, Kenneth Waltz, an international relations specialist at Columbia University argues in “Why Iran Should Get the Bomb” that precisely what’s needed in the Middle East is an Iranian bomb to establish a power balance in the region. He believes that, given the current status of nuclear proliferation in the world, it’s better for states not to have a regional monopoly as Israel does. A balanced standoff such as between Pakistan and Iran, the U.S. and Russia, or China and Japan (the latter has breakout capacity but hasn’t actually created a weapon) actually promotes stability rather than the opposite.
http://original.antiwar.com/richard...why-pre-election-us-israeli-war-games-matter/

I do believe that war with Iran is coming after the election.
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Dear gawd. I hope you are wrong
 
Rana said:
Go KC, I almost laughed after I typed those words, but I am adopting the Texans as my second team this year! NO is a real disappointment!
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It's hard for me to get behind a second team unless I pick them to win.

Which I guess is half the teams playing on any given week. Hahahaha
 
According to the World Jewish Congress, there are half a million Jews in Miami alone. While not all can or will vote That sort of population could swing Florida one way of the other in a close election come November.
 
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