Obama's remarkable confession

Dantès said:
It's still a bill written by an industry lobbyist that did nothing to eliminate the problem which is the way that health care is paid for by the health insurance industry, and by leaving that huge costly privately run profit driven bureaucracy in place, the industry was able to continue their profit seeking even if under slightly different terms!
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Agreed, I don't think it is perfect, but it is a start. I don't hate it to the extent the conservatives do, but I do agree that we still have major issues to overhaul.

The conservative plan was to do nothing, this is a start.
 
Howey said:
He's absolutely right. It's not a condemnation of Obamacare, however, it's a condemnation of the government bidding process that favors substandard contractors over well qualified ones, overpriced and antiquated equipment from favored suppliers, and poor oversight. Incredibly, all of these are at the forefront of Obamacare but if the system had allowed the government to select a systems design ala' Amazon we wouldn't be where we are today.
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Another clueless rebuttal and moronic defense of this inept President and his cabal of incompetent political apparatchiks.

Dear dimwit; the company is one of the most well known highly regarded and commonly used companies for Government web based systems in the nation. They were hardly the "LOW" bid and as indicated by previous stories, we're not bid, they were selected.

The problem wasn't the company that was selected, although they were grossly overpaid by this incredibly incompetent administration, but rather the Government buffoons assigned to this program and the incompetence they brought to it because NO ONE knows what this law is trying to do because it is being made up as they go.

Yes Howey, you really are THAT incredibly stupid and a rabid hyper partisan buffoon inclined to parrot talking points like a clueless trained circus monkey.

Google is not your friend nor are the truth, facts and reality.
 
Rana said:
There are many other things it addresses, hospital care, Medicare fraud, and other things too numerous to mention here.
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ACA will not adress any of these things and rather than fix anything, only exacerbate the failures and fraud already imbedded in any massive Government endeavor that is poorly written and whose only goal is to dupe gullible dimwits into thinking they can get something for nothing.
 
Rana said:
Agreed, I don't think it is perfect, but it is a start. I don't hate it to the extent the conservatives do, but I do agree that we still have major issues to overhaul.

The conservative plan was to do nothing, this is a start.
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The bolded part is a lie based on willful ignorance.
 
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/12/michelle-obama-and-cgi-federal/

Damocles said:
LOL. I'm pretty sure that that one was a gimme to the company who failed to create a long gun database for Canada, whose owner was a friend of Michelle's. Doesn't hurt to know people.

Should have hired Google and simply did it right. Red tape is placed by the Executive authority, he has no qualms just writing up Executive orders to change his extra special law when it looks like the results will harm him politically... I can't see how he would have an issue cutting some of the red tape in his own administration when he needed something that could actually work positively for him politically. He seems short-sighted on that front, pushing off dates, etc. to stop the bleeding rather than doing it right the first time.
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You might want to check Fact check before sputtering nonsense there, Grizzly Adams.

You're wrong on both counts.
 
Conclusion

There is no evidence that Townes-Whitley’s connection to the first lady,*or CGI’s campaign contributions, had anything to do with the contract being awarded to CGI Federal as viral emails suggest.

Company and government officials say the contract was awarded through a competitive — yet limited — process, and that Townes-Whitley was not involved.

If any evidence to the contrary does surface, we will update this item accordingly.
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I've been waiting three days to post that. Tks Damo!
 
Howey said:
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/12/michelle-obama-and-cgi-federal/

You might want to check Fact check before sputtering nonsense there, Grizzly Adams.

You're wrong on both counts.
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You might want to fact check your fact check fudge packer;

The Canadian government hired CGI in the mid-1990s to develop a computerized firearms registry. (The requirement for long guns ended in 2012.)

By 2002, a government audit of the registry showed that massive cost overruns had led to spending $688 million on the program to register an estimated 8 million guns in the country.

Another audit four years later showed that the new system put in place was “significantly over budget project delays have contributed to about one-third of the total cost, now expected to be at least $90 million.”

As a result of the enormous losses to taxpayers, Canada fired CGI in 2007, paying out an additional $10 million to end the contract.

“We spent $2 billion for a list that doesn’t work,” said Mr. Bernardo said of the national gun registry. “This is all just to make a list — a database — you could do it with an Excel spreadsheet, for goodness’ sakes.”

Even worse than the financial loss for Canadians, the computer system has had repeated privacy breaches. The gun registry has been hacked at least 320 times.

Plus, when the 1998 deadline for registering long guns approached, the entire website system crashed, and the records for about 275,000 guns simply vanished. A second website crash resulted in hundreds more firearms records getting lost.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-obamacare-a-record-of-failure/#ixzz2nkqYjHYn
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As for Townes-Whitley; she isn't an owner, that was Damo's mistake, but she is a highly placed executive who did visit the White House and attend a party. Something very few can do unless they have incredible influence and are friends.

It’s true that Townes-Whitley works for CGI Federal. She joined the company in May 2010, and is senior vice president of the Civilian Agency Programs Business Unit, according to the CGI website. In her current role, she oversees services to 22 U.S. federal civilian agencies and is “responsible for sales, client relationships, P&L and member management for CAP’s 1,850+ members across the U.S. and 34 countries internationally.”

It’s also true that she and Michelle Obama graduated from Princeton University in 1985, and both are members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni, according to the alumni group’s website.

Obama studied sociology and African-American studies at Princeton, and Townes-Whitley studied economics and public policy at the university’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. The women belonged to some of the same student groups as well.

Obama, then Michelle Robinson, participated in the Organization of Black Unity and the Third World Center, according to a Boston Globe article. And an out-of-date LinkedIn page for Townes-Whitley — before she began working for CGI Federal — lists those same groups among her “activities and societies” while in school.

In addition, White House visitor records show that Townes-Whitley attended meetings at the White House at least four times between 2010 and 2013. According to the records, she met with Vivek Kundra, former White House chief information officer, in 2010; Danny Werfel, former controller of the Office of Management and Budget, in 2011 and 2013; and Jonathan McBride, assistant to the president and director of presidential personnel, in 2013. The 2010 meeting was described as a forum on IT management reform, according to the records. No description was given for the other meetings.

Townes-Whitley also attended a White House holiday party in 2010. A photo on her Facebook page shows her and her husband, John Whitley, posing with the president and first lady.

Im sorry, but if you are visiting the White House and invited to their parties, then I would argue you definately are a "friend" of Michelle's and weilded great influence getting a contract.

I wonder how many of the senior execs from competing firms were invited?

I cannot find one shred of data about who bid and what the bids were; so much for Obama's new and improved transparency in Government.

What I do know from USA.Gov is that when you click on this link:

7461293 The Health and Human Services Affordable Care Act (ACA ...

www.purchasing.ri.gov/PDF/BidViewBid.aspx?BidNum=7461293A2

a contract or contracts with the Federal Government to perform work for programs ... ACA-specific experience; however, mini-bids and requests for ...

...the message comes up moved or deleted.

On FindRFP.com the following comes up:

0 Bid, RFPs, etc were found. For more results, try aca, web, site

Your search did not find any RFPs based on title search. This does not mean there is no RFPs that match your criteria (see note below).
 
Howey said:
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/12/michelle-obama-and-cgi-federal/







You might want to check Fact check before sputtering nonsense there, Grizzly Adams.

You're wrong on both counts.
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LOL. Company and Administration officials say....

That's like asking your four year old if she ate that cookie...

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No! I didn't eat that chocolate cookie, Daddy!
 
Damocles said:
LOL. Company and Administration officials say....

That's like asking your four year old if she ate that cookie...

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No! I didn't eat that chocolate cookie, Daddy!
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Why are you posting a picture of my daughter??????????????????????????????????????
 
Damo...FactCheck is one of the most credible organizations out there. Can you prove any of your accusations? Without a link to Breitbart?
 
Truth Detector said:
You might want to fact check your fact check fudge packer;

The Canadian government hired CGI in the mid-1990s to develop a computerized firearms registry. (The requirement for long guns ended in 2012.)
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What does that have to do with this?

Truth Detector said:
You might want to fact check your fact check fudge packer;

The Canadian government hired CGI in the mid-1990s to develop a computerized firearms registry. (The requirement for long guns ended in 2012.)

By 2002, a government audit of the registry showed that massive cost overruns had led to spending $688 million on the program to register an estimated 8 million guns in the country.

Another audit four years later showed that the new system put in place was “significantly over budget project delays have contributed to about one-third of the total cost, now expected to be at least $90 million.”

As a result of the enormous losses to taxpayers, Canada fired CGI in 2007, paying out an additional $10 million to end the contract.

“We spent $2 billion for a list that doesn’t work,” said Mr. Bernardo said of the national gun registry. “This is all just to make a list — a database — you could do it with an Excel spreadsheet, for goodness’ sakes.”

Even worse than the financial loss for Canadians, the computer system has had repeated privacy breaches. The gun registry has been hacked at least 320 times.

Plus, when the 1998 deadline for registering long guns approached, the entire website system crashed, and the records for about 275,000 guns simply vanished. A second website crash resulted in hundreds more firearms records getting lost.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-obamacare-a-record-of-failure/#ixzz2nkqYjHYn
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

As for Townes-Whitley; she isn't an owner, that was Damo's mistake, but she is a highly placed executive who did visit the White House and attend a party. Something very few can do unless they have incredible influence and are friends.

It’s true that Townes-Whitley works for CGI Federal. She joined the company in May 2010, and is senior vice president of the Civilian Agency Programs Business Unit, according to the CGI website. In her current role, she oversees services to 22 U.S. federal civilian agencies and is “responsible for sales, client relationships, P&L and member management for CAP’s 1,850+ members across the U.S. and 34 countries internationally.”

It’s also true that she and Michelle Obama graduated from Princeton University in 1985, and both are members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni, according to the alumni group’s website.

Obama studied sociology and African-American studies at Princeton, and Townes-Whitley studied economics and public policy at the university’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. The women belonged to some of the same student groups as well.

Obama, then Michelle Robinson, participated in the Organization of Black Unity and the Third World Center, according to a Boston Globe article. And an out-of-date LinkedIn page for Townes-Whitley — before she began working for CGI Federal — lists those same groups among her “activities and societies” while in school.

In addition, White House visitor records show that Townes-Whitley attended meetings at the White House at least four times between 2010 and 2013. According to the records, she met with Vivek Kundra, former White House chief information officer, in 2010; Danny Werfel, former controller of the Office of Management and Budget, in 2011 and 2013; and Jonathan McBride, assistant to the president and director of presidential personnel, in 2013. The 2010 meeting was described as a forum on IT management reform, according to the records. No description was given for the other meetings.

Townes-Whitley also attended a White House holiday party in 2010. A photo on her Facebook page shows her and her husband, John Whitley, posing with the president and first lady.
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So what? She went to a party! The other visits were business related:

White House visitor records show that Townes-Whitley attended meetings at the White House at least four times between 2010 and 2013. According to the records, she met with Vivek Kundra, former White House chief information officer, in 2010; Danny Werfel, former controller of the Office of Management and Budget, in 2011 and 2013; and Jonathan McBride, assistant to the president and director of presidential personnel, in 2013. The 2010 meeting was described as a forum on IT management reform, according to the records. No description was given for the other meetings.
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I never thought you to be a crazy conspiracy theorist, but I guess you are...


As far as the bidding process, it's been that way for years. Why are you singling it out now that a black guy's in office? And it was thoroughly explained in two legitimate sources:

Campbell, Oct. 24: CGI Federal obtained the [Federal Facilitated Marketplace] contract through a two-step competitive process. In 2007, through full and open competition, CGI Federal was awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity contract for Enterprise Systems Development (ESD) along with 16 other industry competitors. In 2011, CMS conducted a competition for the FFM cost-reimbursement task order among the ESD contract holders. Of the four bids submitted, CGI Federal was selected by CMS as the “best value” to the government.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...ted-bidding-limited-who-could-build-site.html

The race to construct an online insurance exchange by Oct. 1 spurred the Obama administration to use an expedited bidding system that limited its choice of a builder to just four companies, including CGI Group Inc.
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More...from CMS:

A CMS spokeswoman told FactCheck.org the same thing via email.
“CGI did not receive any sole source awards,” she said. “They competed for the work on our multiple award contract.”
The spokeswoman said the competition to build HealthCare.gov was open to the 16 contractors that had been awarded an ID/IQ contract through the process Campbell outlined in her testimony, and, thus, were pre-approved for subsequent task orders.
Four of the 16 companies submitted proposals for the work order to build the marketplace website, the spokeswoman said. Those four were: Quality Software Services Inc., IBM, Computer Science Corporation and CGI Federal.
We reached out to QSSI, IBM and CSC to confirm that they submitted proposals. CSC referred us to CMS, and we did not hear back from IBM or QSSI.
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Now, what sources do you have to refute that? Breitbart? Washington Times? Drudge? Rush?
 
Howey said:
He's absolutely right. It's not a condemnation of Obamacare, however, it's a condemnation of the government bidding process that favors substandard contractors over well qualified ones, overpriced and antiquated equipment from favored suppliers, and poor oversight. Incredibly, all of these are at the forefront of Obamacare but if the system had allowed the government to select a systems design ala' Amazon we wouldn't be where we are today.
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Damocles said:
LOL. Your "it doesn't say anything about Obamacare" makes me laugh.
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Howey said:
Didn't say that, did I?
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Yeah, you did a little bit.
 
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