Oil Rig Explodes off LA Coast

Mott the Hoople said:
Yea and it just blew up not only in your face but in the face of all your neighbors too and you know as well as I do that gulf coast oil drilling meets a minute fraction of our oil demands. You're completely blind if you don't understand why people have major concerns about these oil rigs near our coasts. Just one incidence like this negates their economic impact. I can tell you this much, when this shit hits land, and it will, there'll be hell to pay.

Oil rigs near the coast make about as much sense as building a nuclear reactor in or near a geological fault line!
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you can't tell me anything a junior high kid couldn't about oil. What I can tell you is that no damage has occured. The rig was miles offshore. Spare me your false outrage and go outside take a deep breath and step over a homeless person to spit on someone wearing fur.
Again, show me a year we didn't have deaths or spills. You should pay twice or three times for gasoline than what producing states do. You ingrateful bastard.
 
Topspin said:
you can't tell me anything a junior high kid couldn't about oil. What I can tell you is that no damage has occured. The rig was miles offshore. Spare me your false outrage and go outside take a deep breath and step over a homeless person to spit on someone wearing fur.
Again, show me a year we didn't have deaths or spills. You should pay twice or three times for gasoline than what producing states do. You ingrateful bastard.
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So no fish have died yet?

Are you sure of that?

How can you tell?

The damage began occuring the instant that oil hit the water. Every day that slick grows bigger, so does the damage inflicted on the Gulf Coast Ecosystem.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
So no fish have died yet?

Are you sure of that?

How can you tell?

The damage began occuring the instant that oil hit the water. Every day that slick grows bigger, so does the damage inflicted on the Gulf Coast Ecosystem.
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You live in Texas you should know something about the oil industry.

spills happen monthly, granted this is prob the biggest in a decade but they happen.
 
Topspin said:
You live in Texas you should know something about the oil industry.

spills happen monthly, granted this is prob the biggest in a decade but they happen.
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This thing is pumping 42 THOUSAND GALLONS OF CRUDE A DAY into the gulf, and they say it will be MONTHS before they get the leak under control.

Let's all do the math, shall we...
 
Crews raced to protect the Gulf of Mexico coastline Monday as a remote sub tried to shut off an underwater oil well that's gushing 42,000 gallons a day from the site of a wrecked drilling platform.

If crews cannot stop the leak quickly, they might need to drill another well to redirect the oil, a laborious process that could take about two months while oil washes up along a broad stretch of shore, from the white-sand beaches of Florida's Panhandle to the swamps of Louisiana.

The oil, which could reach shore in as little as three days, is escaping from two leaks in a drilling pipe about 5,000 feet below the surface. The spill has grown to more than 1,800 square miles, or an area larger than Rhode Island.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Strawman! The coal mine explosion didn't damage the property of millions of people nor did it damage public property used by millions of recreational users or the many thousands who use that water and coast lines to make their livlihoods, such as, fishermen. Nor did it threaten the health and well being of millions of people who live on those shore lines and not to mention the health of the ecosystems which we depend upon being devastated. By any conservative economic calculation there is no way you can justify the price to be paid for this. Even if this well is salvaged it will never, ever be able to pay even remotely close to the property damage it has done, not to mention the lives of the 11 crew men lost. So spare me the strawman rhetoric as it appears the only property rights you respect are those of big oil.
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Does 48 years of destruction couint??

http://www.offroaders.com/album/centralia/centralia.htm
 
I am a proponent of offshore drilling, but there is a middle ground to the "debate" on this thread. Accidents like this remind us that the need to transition to clean, renewable sources of energy should be a top priority, and something that simply can't wait. Let's drill while we have to, but eventually, oil is going to have to be part of our history.

The sooner the better.
 
Onceler said:
I am a proponent of offshore drilling, but there is a middle ground to the "debate" on this thread. Accidents like this remind us that the need to transition to clean, renewable sources of energy should be a top priority, and something that simply can't wait. Let's drill while we have to, but eventually, oil is going to have to be part of our history.

The sooner the better.
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You'll be long dead before we are off oil. This country has the best clean up capability and shouldn't shift the environmental risk to 3rd world countries.
 
Topspin said:
I think one of their lots are perfect for you.
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I couldn't afford it. That would be awesome place though, Unit 1 is still in operation, and has recently applied to a permit renewal to keep it running for another 20 years. Helipad, peace and quiet, cheap electricity, an island in the Susquehanna River...

Tell me again how many folks died there?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
This thing is pumping 42 THOUSAND GALLONS OF CRUDE A DAY into the gulf, and they say it will be MONTHS before they get the leak under control.

Let's all do the math, shall we...
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Actually, they stated that IF they could not get the leak under control, THEN it would take two months to drill another line.
 
Topspin said:
I think you should move there and drink the ground water.
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The environmental group American Rivers named the Susquehanna "America's Most Endangered River for 2005" due to the excessive pollution it receives. Most of the pollution in the river is due to excess animal manure from farming, agricultural runoff, urban and suburban stormwater runoff, and raw or inadequately treated sewage.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susquehanna_River#Pollution

Gee they don't mention three mile island as a problem.
 
Onceler said:
I am a proponent of offshore drilling, but there is a middle ground to the "debate" on this thread. Accidents like this remind us that the need to transition to clean, renewable sources of energy should be a top priority, and something that simply can't wait. Let's drill while we have to, but eventually, oil is going to have to be part of our history.

The sooner the better.
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well stated...
 
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