Ok, now that I've heard both, I believe Kavanaugh is telling the truth.

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I'm not saying Dr. Ford is lying or something didn't happen to her. I just think she's mistaken on who abused her.

Senator Graham made some very good points about corroboration that don't support Dr. Ford's testimony.
I'm not a lawyer, a prosecutor. I have no experience in the legal process. I'm just using my 70 years on this planet interacting with other humans.

My intuition is telling me that Kavanaugh is telling the truth. I'm no fan of Trump (duh) but to call Kavanaugh guilty because of my disdain for Trump would be disingenuous.
Kavanaugh words, emotions, reactions are the actions of a man telling the truth. I don't care if this is a victory for Trump. I care about justice.

Whatever happened to Dr. Ford is horrible and never should've happened but ruining Kavanaugh's life, career, family over sketchy allegations is wrong.
And I was wrong for initially thinking he was guilty. I should've waited until I heard both of them today before reaching an opinion.
 
DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
I'm not saying Dr. Ford is lying or something didn't happen to her. I just think she's mistaken on who abused her.

Senator Graham made some very good points about corroboration that don't support Dr. Ford's testimony.
I'm not a lawyer, a prosecutor. I have no experience in the legal process. I'm just using my 70 years on this planet interacting with other humans.

My intuition is telling me that Kavanaugh is telling the truth. I'm no fan of Trump (duh) but to call Kavanaugh guilty because of my disdain for Trump would be disingenuous.
Kavanaugh words, emotions, reactions are the actions of a man telling the truth. I don't care if this is a victory for Trump. I care about justice.

Whatever happened to Dr. Ford is horrible and never should've happened but ruining Kavanaugh's life, career, family over sketchy allegations is wrong.
And I was wrong for initially thinking he was guilty. I should've waited until I heard both of them today before reaching an opinion.
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WOW! You're coming around. Many of your fellow repugnant mud slingers are still stuck on stupid. :rofl2:
 
DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
I'm not saying Dr. Ford is lying or something didn't happen to her. I just think she's mistaken on who abused her.

Senator Graham made some very good points about corroboration that don't support Dr. Ford's testimony.
I'm not a lawyer, a prosecutor. I have no experience in the legal process. I'm just using my 70 years on this planet interacting with other humans.

My intuition is telling me that Kavanaugh is telling the truth. I'm no fan of Trump (duh) but to call Kavanaugh guilty because of my disdain for Trump would be disingenuous.
Kavanaugh words, emotions, reactions are the actions of a man telling the truth. I don't care if this is a victory for Trump. I care about justice.

Whatever happened to Dr. Ford is horrible and never should've happened but ruining Kavanaugh's life, career, family over sketchy allegations is wrong.
And I was wrong for initially thinking he was guilty. I should've waited until I heard both of them today before reaching an opinion.
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Wow. I appreciate you saying that

I was only able to hear Kavanaughs opening statement.

I watched some of Fords testimony. Here are my thoughts on her

I actually believe something happened to her in her past. I think like Ramirez she is being taken advantage of by democrats and her memory was molded. The bottom line is that even if Ford is credible and even if she believes converging happened there is ZERO corroborating evidence.

My other problem is that she did not file a police report when she had the chance in July. So either she is getting really bad legal advice or this is a hit job.
 
DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
I'm not saying Dr. Ford is lying or something didn't happen to her. I just think she's mistaken on who abused her.

Senator Graham made some very good points about corroboration that don't support Dr. Ford's testimony.
I'm not a lawyer, a prosecutor. I have no experience in the legal process. I'm just using my 70 years on this planet interacting with other humans.

My intuition is telling me that Kavanaugh is telling the truth. I'm no fan of Trump (duh) but to call Kavanaugh guilty because of my disdain for Trump would be disingenuous.
Kavanaugh words, emotions, reactions are the actions of a man telling the truth. I don't care if this is a victory for Trump. I care about justice.

Whatever happened to Dr. Ford is horrible and never should've happened but ruining Kavanaugh's life, career, family over sketchy allegations is wrong.
And I was wrong for initially thinking he was guilty. I should've waited until I heard both of them today before reaching an opinion.
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70 years and you're still not a good judge of character.

You would think you'd know better. ............just saying.
 
DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
I'm not saying Dr. Ford is lying or something didn't happen to her. I just think she's mistaken on who abused her.

Senator Graham made some very good points about corroboration that don't support Dr. Ford's testimony.
I'm not a lawyer, a prosecutor. I have no experience in the legal process. I'm just using my 70 years on this planet interacting with other humans.

My intuition is telling me that Kavanaugh is telling the truth. I'm no fan of Trump (duh) but to call Kavanaugh guilty because of my disdain for Trump would be disingenuous.
Kavanaugh words, emotions, reactions are the actions of a man telling the truth. I don't care if this is a victory for Trump. I care about justice.

Whatever happened to Dr. Ford is horrible and never should've happened but ruining Kavanaugh's life, career, family over sketchy allegations is wrong.
And I was wrong for initially thinking he was guilty. I should've waited until I heard both of them today before reaching an opinion.
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thank you.....I don't care what everyone else says about you......you're not always a lying worthless cunt........
 
DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
I'm not saying Dr. Ford is lying or something didn't happen to her. I just think she's mistaken on who abused her.

Senator Graham made some very good points about corroboration that don't support Dr. Ford's testimony.
I'm not a lawyer, a prosecutor. I have no experience in the legal process. I'm just using my 70 years on this planet interacting with other humans.

My intuition is telling me that Kavanaugh is telling the truth. I'm no fan of Trump (duh) but to call Kavanaugh guilty because of my disdain for Trump would be disingenuous.
Kavanaugh words, emotions, reactions are the actions of a man telling the truth. I don't care if this is a victory for Trump. I care about justice.

Whatever happened to Dr. Ford is horrible and never should've happened but ruining Kavanaugh's life, career, family over sketchy allegations is wrong.
And I was wrong for initially thinking he was guilty. I should've waited until I heard both of them today before reaching an opinion.
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I don't believe him.. He's angry and playing the victim. Why didn't he ASK for an FBI investigtion?
 
Ford is so fragile it's hard to say what she thinks is true or not.

and in the spirit of "I was wrong" I was probably too hard on her testimony as well.
I hate to see what is obviously a good man smeared out of what could be an outstanding SCOTUS

all of which shows that going back 35 years with no physical evidence and no supporting testimony,
and theraputic recalled memory is a fools chase when it comes to establishing anything factual.
 
It's shaking out in a pretty partisan way. Those on the right believe him, and those on the left believe her.

Not really surprising. I think both 100% believe what they were saying. One either doesn't remember well, or is delusional, or has some other reason for being wrong - but I don't think either willfully lied.
 
anatta said:
Ford is so fragile it's hard to say what she thinks is true or not.
and in the spirit of "I was wrong" I was probably too hard on her testimony as well.
I hate to see what is obviously a good man smeared out of what could be an outstanding SCOTUS

all of which shows that going back 35 years with no physical evidence and no supporting testimony,
and theraputic recalled memory is a fools chase when it comes to establishing anythng
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Regarding the bolded, you were just like every other hardcore right-wing partisan on this - you started marginalizing her & mocking her immediately.
 
DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
I'm not saying Dr. Ford is lying or something didn't happen to her. I just think she's mistaken on who abused her.

Senator Graham made some very good points about corroboration that don't support Dr. Ford's testimony.
I'm not a lawyer, a prosecutor. I have no experience in the legal process. I'm just using my 70 years on this planet interacting with other humans.

My intuition is telling me that Kavanaugh is telling the truth. I'm no fan of Trump (duh) but to call Kavanaugh guilty because of my disdain for Trump would be disingenuous.
Kavanaugh words, emotions, reactions are the actions of a man telling the truth. I don't care if this is a victory for Trump. I care about justice.

Whatever happened to Dr. Ford is horrible and never should've happened but ruining Kavanaugh's life, career, family over sketchy allegations is wrong.
And I was wrong for initially thinking he was guilty. I should've waited until I heard both of them today before reaching an opinion.
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Gotta say I'm pretty shocked to hear it. In such a tribal heated environment it's not easy to have a differing opinion.
 
Thing1 said:
It's shaking out in a pretty partisan way. Those on the right believe him, and those on the left believe her.

Not really surprising. I think both 100% believe what they were saying. One either doesn't remember well, or is delusional, or has some other reason for being wrong - but I don't think either willfully lied.
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That can only be because the people on the left are despicable, lying, partisan Fascist assholes. ;)
 
Teflon Don said:
Wow. I appreciate you saying that

I was only able to hear Kavanaughs opening statement.

I watched some of Fords testimony. Here are my thoughts on her

I actually believe something happened to her in her past. I think like Ramirez she is being taken advantage of by democrats and her memory was molded. The bottom line is that even if Ford is credible and even if she believes converging happened there is ZERO corroborating evidence.

My other problem is that she did not file a police report when she had the chance in July. So either she is getting really bad legal advice or this is a hit job.
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Thanks for appreciating my candor but make no mistake about it. I still think Donald Trump is a fucking moron and the sooner he's out of the White House's, the better for America.
 
Believing lies isn't a difference of opinion, it's still lies.

If he wasn't lying, he would request an investigation.

This shit show proves noting.
 
The OP is an indicator of why I have such disdain for the American jury system.
If you believe Kavanaugh, you must have a lot of deeds to bridges.
He's going beyond lying. He's just making noise at this point.
 
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