On the Altar of Civility

[signalmankenneth]

A few words on the blinding hypocrisy of that phantasm of civility suddenly being summoned by a regime run by thugs and sociopaths. This is not a crisis of manners, it has been noted, but of democracy. Civility got us them, Gorsuch, that sickghoulMiller, white supremacy and state-sponsored child abuse. With it all, Trump's "enforcers" long ago forfeited the right to expect politesse, or silence, or consent: "It makes little sense to prostrate oneself at the altar of civility while others are gleefully desecrating democracy itself.

Historical precedents abound where people, in retrospect, feel they should have done more when they had the chance." Amidst what many see as dark echoes of the Holocaust, one historian reminds us of Quaker Henry Cadbury, who in 1934 famously

https://twitter.com/x/status/1007301941540655106

Jews to be more "civil" toward Nazis. It did not turn out well. Now more than ever, Howard Zinn: Civil obedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience."

By Abby Zimet

 

[Irish Exit]

Educated people would understand why Trump was elected. It is the lesser mind that has trouble grasping why America elected Trump over Clinton. It is the lesser mind that has to equate not getting their way to the Holocaust so strong is its sense of both righteousness and victimhood.

 

[Bourbon]

[h=1]So, Now You Want Civility?[/h]https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/06/26/so-now-you-want-civility/

Civility.

That’s the card you’re pulling now?
That’s where you’ve landed?
That’s your go-to play at this stage of the game?
It’s a little late for you to roll that out now, isn’t it?

After voting for a self-proclaimed genitalia-grabber.
After he suggested dissenters at his rallies should be beaten up.
After hearing him call violent nazis “fine people.”
After he bulldozed sacred Native American lands and turned frigid hoses on tribe elders.
After he ignored mass deaths in Puerto Rico and vilified their public servants.
After he began dismantling protections to our planet and shrinking our national parks.
After witnessing Flint, Michigan go without clean water.
After watching exhausted refugee families stranded at airports.
After leveraging religion to justify all manner of discrimination.
After ignoring evidence of a Russian interference that threatens our national sovereignty.
After seeing ICE raids in hospital rooms and workplaces.
After his gross, reckless fabrications about Muslims and Mexicans and immigrants.
After witnessing him work tirelessly to take healthcare from the sick and the poor.
After he vilified kneeling black athletes and badgered their employers into silencing their peaceful protest.
After his unhinged Twitter rants against private citizens and their businesses, against celebrities and political opponents and world leaders.
After terrorizing teenage shooting survivors on social media.
After allowing the radicalized Christian right and soulless NRA gun zealots to shape national policy.
After sanctioning Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka and Jeff Sessions.
After retweeting the toxic filth of Dana Loesch and Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter.
After celebrating while he’s alienated our greatest allies and aligned with malevolent dictators.
After your silence in the face of migrant children being ripped from their parent’s arms and placed in dog kennels.
After digging in your heels for the past two years on every bit of it.

Now you want to pretend to be civilized?
Now want to talk about measured debate?
Now you want to wag your finger at us for being disrespectful?
Now you want to shame us for our supposed lack of manners?
Now you want to gaslight us into guilt and apology—as if we’ve lost our dignity, as if we’ve sacrificed our humanity, as if we’ve bastardized our religion, as if we’re the ones impervious to other people’s feelings.

With all due respect—to hell with your phony civility.

No, you don’t get to play that card. That request is off the table for you.
You lost that moral high ground somewhere between excusing his mocking of a disabled reporter—and celebrating brown-skinned kids in cages.
Your lengthy, sickening body of work over the past two and a half years is the greatest witness of your fraudulence.

You don’t really want civility, anyway. That’s not what you’re asking for. If you were simply asking for that, we wouldn’t have an issue.​

 

[PostmodernProphet]

[FONT=&]A few words on the blinding hypocrisy of that phantasm of[/FONT] civility[FONT=&] suddenly being [/FONT]summoned[FONT=&] by a regime run by thugs and sociopaths. This is not a [/FONT]crisis [FONT=&]of manners, it has been noted, but of democracy. Civility got us them, Gorsuch, that [/FONT]sickghoulMiller, [FONT=&]white supremacy and state-sponsored child abuse. With it all, Trump's "enforcers" long ago [/FONT]forfeited [FONT=&]the right to expect politesse, or[/FONT] silence,[FONT=&] or consent: "It makes little sense to prostrate oneself at the altar of civility while others are gleefully desecrating democracy itself.

Historical precedents abound where people, in retrospect, feel they should have done more when they had the chance." Amidst what many see as dark [/FONT]echoes [FONT=&]of the Holocaust, one historian reminds us of Quaker Henry Cadbury, who in 1934 famously [/FONT]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1007301941540655106

[FONT=&] Jews to be more "civil" toward Nazis. It did not turn out well. Now more than ever, Howard Zinn: Civil obedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience."

[/FONT]By Abby Zimet

what an ironic post......

 

[Ross Dolan]

Educated people would understand why Trump was elected. It is the lesser mind that has trouble grasping why America elected Trump over Clinton. It is the lesser mind that has to equate not getting their way to the Holocaust so strong is its sense of both righteousness and victimhood.

I'm going to print out this commentary of yours, Kacper...tear it into pieces...and spread those pieces around the rose bushes in my backyard.

I expect strong, larger, more beautiful roses will result!

 

[Ross Dolan]

[h=1]So, Now You Want Civility?[/h]https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/06/26/so-now-you-want-civility/

Civility.

That’s the card you’re pulling now?
That’s where you’ve landed?
That’s your go-to play at this stage of the game?
It’s a little late for you to roll that out now, isn’t it?

After voting for a self-proclaimed genitalia-grabber.
After he suggested dissenters at his rallies should be beaten up.
After hearing him call violent nazis “fine people.”
After he bulldozed sacred Native American lands and turned frigid hoses on tribe elders.
After he ignored mass deaths in Puerto Rico and vilified their public servants.
After he began dismantling protections to our planet and shrinking our national parks.
After witnessing Flint, Michigan go without clean water.
After watching exhausted refugee families stranded at airports.
After leveraging religion to justify all manner of discrimination.
After ignoring evidence of a Russian interference that threatens our national sovereignty.
After seeing ICE raids in hospital rooms and workplaces.
After his gross, reckless fabrications about Muslims and Mexicans and immigrants.
After witnessing him work tirelessly to take healthcare from the sick and the poor.
After he vilified kneeling black athletes and badgered their employers into silencing their peaceful protest.
After his unhinged Twitter rants against private citizens and their businesses, against celebrities and political opponents and world leaders.
After terrorizing teenage shooting survivors on social media.
After allowing the radicalized Christian right and soulless NRA gun zealots to shape national policy.
After sanctioning Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka and Jeff Sessions.
After retweeting the toxic filth of Dana Loesch and Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter.
After celebrating while he’s alienated our greatest allies and aligned with malevolent dictators.
After your silence in the face of migrant children being ripped from their parent’s arms and placed in dog kennels.
After digging in your heels for the past two years on every bit of it.

Now you want to pretend to be civilized?
Now want to talk about measured debate?
Now you want to wag your finger at us for being disrespectful?
Now you want to shame us for our supposed lack of manners?
Now you want to gaslight us into guilt and apology—as if we’ve lost our dignity, as if we’ve sacrificed our humanity, as if we’ve bastardized our religion, as if we’re the ones impervious to other people’s feelings.

With all due respect—to hell with your phony civility.

No, you don’t get to play that card. That request is off the table for you.
You lost that moral high ground somewhere between excusing his mocking of a disabled reporter—and celebrating brown-skinned kids in cages.
Your lengthy, sickening body of work over the past two and a half years is the greatest witness of your fraudulence.

You don’t really want civility, anyway. That’s not what you’re asking for. If you were simply asking for that, we wouldn’t have an issue.​

Fuck "civility" with this bunch of classless, ignorant savages.

 

[domer76]

Educated people would understand why Trump was elected. It is the lesser mind that has trouble grasping why America elected Trump over Clinton. It is the lesser mind that has to equate not getting their way to the Holocaust so strong is its sense of both righteousness and victimhood.

It IS the educated who understand why Trump was elected. It WAS the undereducated and underinformed who voted for him.

 

[Truth Detector]

Historical precedents abound where people, in retrospect, feel they should have done more when they had the chance." Amidst what many see as dark echoes of the Holocaust, one historian reminds us of Quaker Henry Cadbury, who in 1934 famously Jews to be more "civil" toward Nazis. It did not turn out well. Now more than ever, Howard Zinn: Civil obedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience."

It is quite funny to watch a bunch of dishonest, lying liberal dunces justify their Fascist tactics and beliefs by trying to paint Trump as the Fascist. It is pathetic, dishonest and patently stupid.

The danger to this nation isn't coming from Trump. But rather, an ideological based media and political party that thinks it can ignore the will of the people and use the all powerful government and embedded leftist bureaucrats to destroy someone they ideologically disagree with.

What the FBI, CIA and Obama Administration have done makes Watergate look like a three stooges comedy. Yet you willful morons on the left cheer them on and think that because Trump doesn't cave into the media pressure and lies, he's the problem. In truth, he is the solution.

 

[Truth Detector]

Educated people would understand why Trump was elected. It is the lesser mind that has trouble grasping why America elected Trump over Clinton. It is the lesser mind that has to equate not getting their way to the Holocaust so strong is its sense of both righteousness and victimhood.

 

[Truth Detector]

I'm going to print out this commentary of yours, Kacper...tear it into pieces...and spread those pieces around the rose bushes in my backyard.

I expect strong, larger, more beautiful roses will result!

 

[Truth Detector]

It IS the educated who understand why Trump was elected. It WAS the undereducated and underinformed who voted for him.

Wrong; but then you whiny brain dead dunces on the left seldom get much of anything right which is why you support losers and liars.

 

[Truth Detector]

Fuck "civility" with this bunch of classless, ignorant savages.

Any questions Independents, Conservatives and Republicans? This is what the left thinks of you.

 

[domer76]

This message is hidden because the undereducated and underinformed cunt, Truth Detector, is on your ignore list.

 

[evince]

Educated people would understand why Trump was elected. It is the lesser mind that has trouble grasping why America elected Trump over Clinton. It is the lesser mind that has to equate not getting their way to the Holocaust so strong is its sense of both righteousness and victimhood.

trump and the republicans have cheated in elections


civility wont stop them or putin

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Educated people would understand why Trump was elected. It is the lesser mind that has trouble grasping why America elected Trump over Clinton. It is the lesser mind that has to equate not getting their way to the Holocaust so strong is its sense of both righteousness and victimhood.

Right. Literally. Straight from the far-right playbook.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

[h=1]So, Now You Want Civility?[/h]
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You don’t really want civility, anyway. That’s not what you’re asking for. If you were simply asking for that, we wouldn’t have an issue.[/INDENT][/FONT][/COLOR]

Great post, copied and shared elsewhere.

 

[Irish Exit]

Right. Literally. Straight from the far-right playbook.

Sorry you cannot grasp what motivates people different than yourself in anything other than a negative light.

 

[Irish Exit]

I'm going to print out this commentary of yours, Kacper...tear it into pieces...and spread those pieces around the rose bushes in my backyard.

I expect strong, larger, more beautiful roses will result!

Save some milk from the government teet you suck on to pour over it. It helps with the black spot.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Sorry you cannot grasp what motivates people different than yourself in anything other than a negative light.

I know exactly why at least *some* ppl voted for Trump (besides the oh-no-never-Hillary crowd)... they believed that he was going to "fix" things. Some, like one of our relatives, hates him but voted for him anyway knowing that he would get to appoint at least one conservative Supreme Court justice. Her whole thing is abortion and overturning Roe v Wade. I don't think that any of these ppl are getting what they sold their principles down the river for, in the end. As for the rest of the Trumpanzees, they voted for him because he represents them -- vulgar, low-class, sub-par intelligence but conniving and crafty, racist, misogynist, bullying, and non-PC. ("Non-PC" of course means permission to use racial and sexual epithets publicly.)

 

[Irish Exit]

I know exactly why at least *some* ppl voted for Trump (besides the oh-no-never-Hillary crowd)... they believed that he was going to "fix" things. Some, like one of our relatives, hates him but voted for him anyway knowing that he would get to appoint at least one conservative Supreme Court justice. Her whole thing is abortion and overturning Roe v Wade. I don't think that any of these ppl are getting what they sold their principles down the river for, in the end. As for the rest of the Trumpanzees, they voted for him because he represents them -- vulgar, low-class, sub-par intelligence but conniving and crafty, racist, misogynist, bullying, and non-PC. ("Non-PC" of course means permission to use racial and sexual epithets publicly.)

Like I said, a negative light.