one reason people are fucking stupid

She berates you, for her perception that you hate blacks; and yet, she lives with someone who openly hates "gooks".

She mentioned he has mental issues too. SOme of the damage is probably from having to deal with her abusiveness and unwillingness to be honest.
 
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She mentioned he has mental issues too. SOme of the damage is probably from having to deal with her abusiveness and unwillingness to be honest.

And she rails about the oil companies; but if it wasn't for them, she wouldn't have an income.
Her better half is deep in their pockets.
 
No. It's obvious I believe civil rights should apply to all individuals, even white males.

DNC wants you to stop debating me so my arguments have less opportunity to be seen. Even he sees you're losing.

It's obvious there are racists on this board, but you are not one of them.

I agree it should also apply to white males.
 
I would say her brains are the equivalent of jello.

Your half-witted pal thinks (un)intelligent design is going to overtake evolution as the main theory to explain the origins of life, in the next four years even, and you call Froggie stupid?

Your cretinous pal thinks that Dickens never wrote about the social issues of his times and you call Froggie stupid?

:rofl:
 
Your half-witted pal thinks (un)intelligent design is going to overtake evolution as the main theory to explain the origins of life, in the next four years even, and you call Froggie stupid?

Your cretinous pal thinks that Dickens never wrote about the social issues of his times and you call Froggie stupid?

:rofl:
Thanks, for the support.
 
Wrong. There is legitimate objection by a majority of americans of a public option. Not because they love insurance companies, but because they enivions and "out of the frying pan, into the fire" scenario.

Government is not a legitimate provider of competition.

Tort reform, and the ability to buy insurance across state lines would go much further to creating competition and controlling costs.

Government is a legitimate provider of essential services to its citizens. Health care is an essential service. Competition has nothing to do with providing an essential service, nor does it have anything to do with the vaunted and largely imaginary "free market," which if unregulated goes in one direction and one direction only: monopoly. You can't name one instance in history where an unregulated market has ever led to more competition. Lack of regulation leads to fraud and collusion, not competition. The number one goal in any market is beating and ideally eliminating your competition. Even with an enforced set of rules, some will still cheat, which is why every competitive arena has referees (or umpires, or police, or armies) to ensure that the competition remains within boundaries designed to afford fair treatment of as many competitors as possible. Democracy and an unregulated free market are inherently incompatible, as the goal of the democracy, even a representative republic such as ours, is the diffusion of power into as many hands as is possible, while the goal of the unregulated market, as demonstrated historically time and again, is the concentration of power into as few hands as possible. These poasitions are diametrically opposed. You can have one or the other, but not both, and there is no centrist position. There can't be, as every concession to the market results in a further concentration of power, which is inherently anti-democratic.

Quod erat dmonstrandum.
 
Government is a legitimate provider of essential services to its citizens. Health care is an essential service. Competition has nothing to do with providing an essential service, nor does it have anything to do with the vaunted and largely imaginary "free market," which if unregulated goes in one direction and one direction only: monopoly. You can't name one instance in history where an unregulated market has ever led to more competition. Lack of regulation leads to fraud and collusion, not competition. The number one goal in any market is beating and ideally eliminating your competition. Even with an enforced set of rules, some will still cheat, which is why every competitive arena has referees (or umpires, or police, or armies) to ensure that the competition remains within boundaries designed to afford fair treatment of as many competitors as possible. Democracy and an unregulated free market are inherently incompatible, as the goal of the democracy, even a representative republic such as ours, is the diffusion of power into as many hands as is possible, while the goal of the unregulated market, as demonstrated historically time and again, is the concentration of power into as few hands as possible. These poasitions are diametrically opposed. You can have one or the other, but not both, and there is no centrist position. There can't be, as every concession to the market results in a further concentration of power, which is inherently anti-democratic.

Quod erat dmonstrandum.


Right. Your side knows presenting it as "competition" for the private sector is dishonest. You don't believe in markets at all, it's just a way to sell it "fiscal conservatives". The problem is they're not quite that stupid.
 
Wrong. There is legitimate objection by a majority of americans of a public option. Not because they love insurance companies, but because they enivions and "out of the frying pan, into the fire" scenario.

Government is not a legitimate provider of competition.

Tort reform, and the ability to buy insurance across state lines would go much further to creating competition and controlling costs.

BTW, none of the polls show support for the public option dipping BELOW 66%, and it goes as high as 79%. What part of the concept of "majority" don't you understand?
 
BTW, none of the polls show support for the public option dipping BELOW 66%, and it goes as high as 79%. What part of the concept of "majority" don't you understand?

Why didn't you quote my most recent post? too devastating you can't bear to see repeated. I understand.

Real polls show nobody wants your dogshit plan.
 
Right. Your side knows presenting it as "competition" for the private sector is dishonest. You don't believe in markets at all, it's just a way to sell it "fiscal conservatives". The problem is they're not quite that stupid.

Anyone who believes an unregulated market leads to more competition, despite the fact that this has never happened in history, is stupid. It is false to say that we don't believe in markets at all. False AND stupid. Markets are absolutely necessaryn for the movement of goods and services, and a requirement for a robust national economy. However, we realize some things the delusional self-styled "fiscal conservatives" such as yourself don't. First, we know that you are in no way a fiscal conservative, but are instead a regressive corporatist, blindly swallowing the bilge being poured down your throat by the special interests, their lobbyists, and their whores in congress from both parties. A true fiscal conservative would never have supported the illegal war in iraq, which all of you corporatists did. A true fiscal conservative would also never support a wasteful, profiteering healthcare system like the one we have, realizing that the rapidly rising cost of our insurance (which has nothing to do with tort reform...the states that have limited jury awards have subsequently experienced the same increases in insurance premiums they had prior to the "reform,"which is no more and no less than corporate America's ploy to evade legal responsibilituy for their unethical actions), is an unsustainable drag on our economy, such that Honda recently decided they could no longer continue opening factories in the US, because our health care costs add $1500-$1800 to the price of a new car built in the US, making any vehicle built in the US uncompetitive. This is a company that has historically jumped at the opportunity to build their products here, using American labor and materials. Every Honda Gold Wing motorcycle sold worldwide is made in Marysville, OH by American workers, using American steel and DuPont plastics, creating good jobs here. But they have realized they can no longer afford our health care costs, and have decided to open new plants in Canada. So why are you, as a self-styled "fiscal conservative," blindly supporting the profiteering from the insurance sector, which creates exactly zero high-paying manufacturing jobs, when it is clearly not in our national best interests to do so? I maintain that it is because you are exactly as stupid as we think you are.

Second, we realize that no market, regardless of how necessary it is to the smooth functioning of a national economy, can be allowed to exist in an unregulated state, because of one simple fact: In EVERY competitive arena, there are cheaters; those who think the rules don't aply to them. The technical term for these individuals is "sociopath." They have always been with us, and they always will be. That is the reason we need police to enforce criminal law, and why we need referees to enforce the rules of sports. There is no such thing as a self-enforcing rule or law, and no entity that can be trusted to police itself, which is why for example, the NCAA enforces the rules and hires the refs, and not the individual schools. The market has no mechanism for enforcing rules, and anybody who says it does is either a cheater who is anxious to loot the market unhindered by agents of enforcement, or an idiot and a sucker, just begging to be ripped off.

By the way, your moronic little talking points post neither refuted my point nor added anything meaningful to the discussion. It was nothing more than an unfounded, false (and yes, stupid) accusation, a lame attempt at an ad hominem argument made to discredit my argument without actually addressing it. In short, your post was nothing but bullshit, and despite your apparent conviction that any piece of crap you post deserves serioius consideration and respect, such is not the case. Only serious posts deserve replies. I will respond to bullshit only once, and this reply is your once. Any substantive post from you will be answered thoughtfully, honestly, and as completely as I am able. However, any further crap rom you like the post quoted above will be ignored.
 
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