One year ago today, God spared President Donald J. Trump’s life. Thank you Jesus!

gmark77 said:
Tell it to the Cathars (go ahead and look that one up). Or maybe tell the various abortion doctors that were murdered by Christians. Or how about the good folks during the Crusades.
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IMO, the murderers or those doing harm to others like all of JPP's MAGAts are not Christians except in name only.
 
Into the Night said:
No. atheism is not a belief at all. It is not a religion at all. Atheists do not care if any god or gods exist or not.

Science, mathematics, and logic are complete atheistic. It doesn't matter to any of these whether a god exists or not. They simply don't go there.

The Church of No God is a fundamentalist style religion that often try to call themselves 'atheists', but that's the LAST thing they are!

The word 'atheist' uses the prefix 'a-' and the word 'theist' or believer. 'Atheist' becomes 'nonbeliever', or one that simply has no opinion and doesn't care whether any god or gods exist or not.

ALL religions are based on some initial circular argument, with arguments extending from that. The circular argument is also known as the Argument of Faith. By itself it is NOT a logical fallacy. Only trying to prove a circular argument True or False creates the circular argument fallacy. This is what a fundamentalist does.

It is not possible to prove a circular argument either True or False. A circular argument (or Argument of Faith) is simply one that uses itself as a predicate.
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Which doesn't change that governments that push that belief system have killed millions and millions of folks around the globe. I get that you do not like the idea... for some absurd reason. However Atheists do not have a moral high ground when it comes to sanctioned mass killing.
 
gmark77 said:
Yeah, I'm not likely to believe that a rapist felon who steals from charities is a "good person" or has "my interests in mind". I'd need proof.
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Ok... We were talking about his ear...and the fact that we don't worship him... You're all over the place...lol..
 
FastLane said:
Since he is all powerful perhaps he chooses not to know what our choices will ultimately be.
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That's really bad theology, and is just a quickly fabricated excuse without any rational thought behind it.

You obviously have not investigated Christian history, theology, and philosophy.

If God created space, time, energy, and matter, then God necessarily exists outside of time. He is not on the same chronological timeline we are.

If he exists outside time, he can know what your choices are, without interfering with your free will - the same way I can know what Abraham Lincoln's choices were, without me interfering with his free will.
 
TOP said:
Ok... We were talking about his ear...and the fact that we don't worship him... You're all over the place...lol..
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Remember: this is a thread about how "GOD must have spared Trump". So I'm not out of bounds. Trump is worshipped by the mouth breathing low IQ voters who put him into office. He is a felon who is legally barred from running a charity because the Trump family stole from one so egregiously that legal action was required.

And we're supposed to think GOD "spared" this "creature". Sorry but that's risible at the extreme.

IF there was an actual God why would he "spare" a man so corrupt and evil as Trump while countless innocent die?

Do you think God spared Trump so he could get around to violating ALL of the 10 Commandments?
 
Cypress said:
That's really bad theology, and is just a quickly fabricated excuse without any rational thought behind it.

You obviously have not investigated Christian history, theology, and philosophy.

If God created space, time, energy, and matter, then God necessarily exists outside of time. He is not on the same chronological timeline we are.

If he exists outside time, he can know what your choices are, without interfering with your free will - the same way I can know what Abraham Lincoln's choices were, without me interfering with his free will.
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:laugh: If you only knew. There is ZERO anything in the Bible that says we can't change our own fate at any time by accepting and following Jesus Christ. God is all powerful so he has the power to ignore what our fate is. Do you believe Christians should follow the Ten Commandments?
 
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