Opinions on Vaccines

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Chapdog

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I am of the stable that thinks vaccines are risky for some children.. definitely those who are pre-disposed to have sensitive stomachs or allergies.

I know there is lots of people on both sides here but there is just way to many question for me to risk my kids with such aggressive ever growing vaccine schedules.

THE CDC says they are safe. .but is the CDC a credible un biased party here? I think not considering they are government run and likely have lots of outside interference in there conclusions.


Anybody here have an opinion or experience on this under-reported topic?
 
I have given all my children their vaccines. There is little doubt that vaccinations are a major contributing factor to the current longevity that we all benefit from.
 
So you dont believe in the danger of vaccines? No relation to social issue increases such as autism?
 
Chapdog said:
So you dont believe in the danger of vaccines? No relation to social issue increases such as autism?
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I believe that Autism has "increased" only in better understanding of the problem. Many Autistic children are very high level functional, in the past their diagnosis may never have come about at all.

Much like problems like ADHD.
 
Chapdog, the vaccine-autism link has been shown to be nothing more than an urban myth. There is no apparent link between the two at all. In fact, it is far more likely, particularly in some (and probably all) forms of autism, that the predominating factor is genetic.

As Damo has said, we enjoy healthy and longer lives because of these vaccines.

I'll get a link for you to help you research some of these issues on your own.
 
Im not saying its not genetic. in fact i think that part of it is genetics. Mostly my thinking is that some kids are pre-disposed and that vaccines on those pre-disposed children are what causes it.
 
Chapdog said:
Im not saying its not genetic. in fact i think that part of it is genetics. Mostly my thinking is that some kids are pre-disposed and that vaccines on those pre-disposed children are what causes it.
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That hypothesis has been debunked.
 
That is your opinion. Im sure you will not have trouble finding hundreds of thousands of people that disagree with vaccine safety.

If anything its an unknown. Lots of people said there was no link of smoking and cancer back at one point as well.
 
That is not merely my opinion. I don't voice opinions unless I can back them up. Check the link I provided for you.
 
I looked at it but i could also fill 100 links on here that say otherwise. Just Google it.

First you need to accept that its still an unknown. otherwise congress would not be funding research into autism and there wouldn’t be politicians talking about it if everything has been proven.

You talk as if its a proven fact that nothing is causing this increase in autism... and that there is not an increase in autism.
 
I believe i say in the tread i am on this side of the fence.. and this is a debate forum is it not?
 
Damocles said:
I believe that Autism has "increased" only in better understanding of the problem. Many Autistic children are very high level functional, in the past their diagnosis may never have come about at all.

Much like problems like ADHD.
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read this:
http://thoughtfulhouse.org/0405-conf-awakefield.htm

Here is part:
There is no epidemic, we're simply better at making the diagnosis. Now, those of you who live with autism every day know that it is clinically striking--it is not something that we could ever have missed in the past. The greatest clinicians in medicine were not even practicing in the 20th century, but the century before: people like Charcot from the Salpêtrière in Paris, and his colleague Pierre Marie; these were among the truly great clinicians. There was not much they could do about the diseases they encountered, but they described them in meticulous detail. Had autism existed before the time of Leo Kanner, I suspect we would have had vivid descriptions in the medical literature prior to him.* In his paper, Kanner himself wrote, "Since 1938, there have come to our attention a number of children whose condition differs so markedly and uniquely from anything reported so far, that each case merits—and, I hope, will eventually receive—a detailed consideration of its fascinating peculiarities." If the prevalence rates were constant, Mark Blaxill has calculated that from the known population of the world thus far we would have had some 300 million patients with autism before Leo Kanner. These facts lead me to believe that it is not an ancient disease.
 
And a better one here:

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/118574.html

Recent research on many fronts in medicine and science has nailed the coffin shut on the mercury-in-vaccines-causes-autism hypothesis. The connection is just not there. Perhaps the key fact, which has garnered little attention, is that thimerosal [the mercury containing preservative alleged to cause autism] has been removed from vaccines in this and other countries for many years, with no obvious impact on the incidence of autism...
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You do not have to worry about your child getting that mercury base in their vaccine, they haven't been in our vaccinations for YEARS.

Seriously, this really is much like those "Humans could never have caused any effect to the environment" freakos.
 
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