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Daylight63
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And this was quite a contentious debate in the early Christian church. In many ways it makes Christianity Paul's invention since he advocated against the Jerusalem Church (some of whom presumably knew Jesus IIRC) who didn't necessarily want to "open it up" to the Gentiles without them doing what was necessary to become Jewish.
I've always found that bit of history of the church to be the most confusing. Why would someone who never met Jesus, for whom the faith is eponymous, get a "say" in how the faith was structured?
In many ways I think of Christianity as starting with Paul who took the pieces and parts of the Jesus story and built out a faith.
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IBDaMann
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Irrelevant. My statement is true. You are trying to get hearsay about "Jesus" admitted as history, and to establish "Jesus" as an historical figure.
Herodotus is a dead guy.
The people for whom he scribed absolutely were first-hand witnesses.
... and acting as scribe to document the first-hand account.
Nope. Only the eyewitnesses, i.e. first-hand accounts, were history once they were transcribed.
You're free to travel your backyard wishing historians accepted hearsay as first-hand account.
Correct. We don't have time machines and we cannot verify any beliefs about the unobserved past. All beliefs about the unobserved past are just that, beliefs, and those happen to be hearsay, beliefs and speculation, and they are neither knowledge nor history.
Nope. Those were all first-hand accounts.
IBDaMann
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That's right, you read it on the internet, therefore you have no choice but to assume that it is absolutely true.
IBDaMann
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... according to Marx. In such a Utopia, he would be in charge of the wealth redistribution. Marx would sit on his fat azz all day while others worked like slaves to provide for him. Of course he would refer to that world as "Utopia."
"Finally, in times when the class struggle nears the decisive hour, the process of dissolution going on within the ruling class, in fact within the whole range of society, assumes such a violent, glaring character, that a small section of the ruling class cuts itself adrift, and joins the revolutionary class, the class that holds the future in its hands. " - The Communist Manifesto
"In depicting the most general phases of the development of the proletariat, we traced the more or less veiled civil war, raging within existing society, up to the point where that war breaks out into open revolution, and where the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie lays the foundation for the sway of the proletariat." - The Communist Manifesto
Where do you see that? All I see is advocacy for the tearing down of the bourgeoisie world and forcing all the proletariot into slave labor for the benefit of those who control the redistribution of wealth.
Even though you deleted your Perry sock puppet, it still exists in people's responses to your Perry sock.
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I didn't say anything about how communism would work out in practice. You're tilting at windmills.
What I said was that the theoretical core idea in Marx had a New Testament ethos in concept - to raise up the oppressed and the poor, and to lay low the rich and powerful.
Daylight63
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I don't know how you do that. But it certainly explains why you can't find much in the way of evidence for it. You seem to specialize in "excuses" to explain away your failures.
it still exists in people's responses to your Perry sock.
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No idea who this is. It isn't addressed to you so I don't know why you hate the guy so much.
Did you change your name from Mason Michael? Why did you change it? HOW do you change it?
So MASON MICHAELS was your sock? Interesting. I'll keep that in mind now that I know.
That's the way this board works. You can cancel your sock puppet's account, but the name of your sock is preserved where people quoted him in their posts.
If you don't like Mason quoting your sock puppet Perry Phimosis, I can give more examples of other people quoting Perry, as below:
Apparently YOU were, as you can't even form coherent sentences.
I've made no such claim, super genius.
I've made no such claim, super genius
No need, as I have not claimed anything that you are attributing to me.
I'll take that as an "I'll...
Daylight63
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That's the way this board works. You can cancel your sock puppet's account, but the name of your sock is preserved where people quoted him in their posts.
If you don't like Mason quoting your sock puppet Perry Phimosis, I can give more examples of other people quoting Perry, as below:
Apparently YOU were, as you can't even form coherent sentences.
I've made no such claim, super genius.
I've made no such claim, super genius
No need, as I have not claimed anything that you are attributing to me.
I'll take that as an "I'll...
Finally! Thanks for showing me that your friend exists. Weird that it doesn't seem to be indexed in the Search function. You had to know where you were goin' for these. Good finds. Now you can find your friend again!
How do you "cancel" your account? I have never seen how that is done. But you seem to be quite knowledgable about all this "changing names" "socks" "canceling accounts". You been at it long?
IBDaMann
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That was an awesome pivot. You also didn't say anything about how to best apply security controls on financial networks in practice either.
You really should learn to stick with what you did say. Then you can teach AProudLefty what you learned.
Nope. It doesn't preach any sort of morality. Marxism is simply victimhood anger demanding the violent pursuit of vengeance on whomever you happen to HATE at the moment, which is typically the preacher's current political enemy.
Erase the "lift up the oppressed and the poor" part and just say "lay low the rich and powerful."
Obviously you thought once you cancelled your Perry Phimosis account, all evidence of your sock puppet would disappear, and that is why you were so confident in your incessant demands I prove that your Perry sock puppet ever existed.