Our Education System

Cypress said:
Undoubtedly, these countries have publicly funded education and public schools.

I can already tell you what racists are going to imply.

That Switzerland, Netherlands, et al. has great education because they are white.

I actually cannot think of a single country on the planet that has an education system based on the conservative model of home schooling, and private for-profit run primary schools.
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There are certain schools within the district where I live that were deemed "Academies". Interestingly, they weren't the schools that were the better performers but just the opposite. It wasn't a surprise that the schools chosen were the ones with the highest black population and, thus, the lowest performing schools. In an effort at parity, those academies brought in the higher performing white students to bring up the overall report card grades for the low performing schools. It's OK, within the academies, those that attended the academy portion of those schools didn't have to mix in classes with the resident thug population and give the thugs a chance to bring down those actually concerned about learning.

It's not racist to say whiter schools perform better, it's a fact. Go back 65 years to Brown. It wasn't the whites trying to get into the black schools, it was the other way around. There's a reason for that.
 
Did I respond to your post? No I did not. Just as I'm not responding to your post here. It's a discussion board and the topic is education. If these small white European countries are the model we should follow I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about it. If discussing the topic triggers you put me on ignore.
 
TTQ64 said:
And that's exactly what cawacky implied.
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In the district where I live, the lower performing schools have the higher black populations and vice versa.

In Brown, it wasn't the whites trying to get into the black schools. It was the other way around and for good reason. Almost 65 years later, the results are still the same in performance despite several generations of blacks going to school with whites.
 
cawacko said:
Did I respond to your post? No I did not. Just as I'm not responding to your post here. It's a discussion board and the topic is education. If these small white European countries are the model we should follow I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about it. If discussing the topic triggers you put me on ignore.
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I just told you solutions......FUNDING.....EQUAL FUNDING

But I'm sure you'll dismiss it.
 
Cypress said:
Get this through your skull, you unrepentant lying mother effer. I am never going to be interested in reading or responding to you. No matter how much you lurk my posts or write off handed comments to or about me.

>> https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?96247-Fifty-Years-Ago-1968&p=2395033#post2395033
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You know what I will respond to you Cypress, this one time. Get the Fvck over yourself. I rarely post on this board anymore. It no longer holds the interest to me that it once did. But when I do post here it's not in response to you or about you. So again, get over yourself thinking you are so important and I'm here stalking you.

There are people responding to me ITT that I haven't responded to in several years yet they constantly quote my threads. Yet I don't cry about it. It is what it is.

And generally speaking I attempt to treat people with respect, even when we disagree. Now I have over 50K posts on this board and there are definitely ones I would like to take back. I'm not proud of everything I've posted. But overall I'm pretty good.

So get over yourself. You are not that important.
 
Eagle-Eye said:
What's the matter loser did my two posts on successful American blacks shoot holes in your bullshit?
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Absolutely not!

In fact, your absurd post confirms how unequal this country is.

The fact that you can count on 1 hand how many "Blacks that have succeeded" in this country IN-SPITE of the oppression, racism, institutional racism and white privilege shows your ignorance.
 
Cypress said:
Easy way to address this topic. We need to deal with real world examples, not theoretical musings, or mental masterbation.

Liberals can point to countries with excellent educational systems which we can emulate, learn from, or copy.

I put forth Finland, Netherlands. Switzerland, Belgium as example of superior educational systems we can emulate/learn from.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/11-best-school-systems-in-the-world-a7425391.html



On the other hand, conservatives need to point to nations which have prestigious and excellent educational systems based on home schooling or turning public schools over to for-profit corporations.
I really would like to hear what countries conservatives come up with.
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Good points. Certainly the most successful education systems have realized that not everyone in the classroom is equal. Americans seem to hate the idea of testing, particularly to sort out those who are struggling from those who are excelling. We think "equality" extends to education too. Well, it does -- if "equality" means making sure every kid has the same access to quality instructors, materials, resources. For kids who are struggling further research (testing included) would help to discover why and then school resources could be directed towards them, while more advanced students could continue to move on. In Germany your grades and coursework have to fall above a certain point or you won't be considered for Gymnasium, the highest level of college prep. Other students can attend lower level school with an eye toward learning trades. Americans would probably find this system too class-driven.

Your points about conservatives' desired school systems (home-schooling... lol) are spot on.
 
TTQ64 said:
My father has absolutely NOTHING to do with the United States Education System..........NOTHING!
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Don't let the stupid twit get under your skin. This is a person who has falsely claimed to be an "inner city" (code for mostly-black) m.s. teacher, who has referred to that student body as "thugs" (code word for you-know-what). So OF COURSE in her race-twisted mind, the only problem with education today is bad parenting.

I would agree that that is part of the problem, but definitely not the entire issue which has multiple causes, including institutional racism in the form of failure to fund and staff certain districts the same as other districts. Why should parents have to move to allow their kid to go to a better school with decent premises and buildings, engaged teachers, up-to-date textbooks, computers, and other modern learning tools? Why aren't all public schools equally staffed and funded?
 
TTQ64 said:
Absolutely not!

In fact, your absurd post confirms how unequal this country is.

The fact that you can count on 1 hand how many "Blacks that have succeeded" in this country IN-SPITE of the oppression, racism, institutional racism and white privilege shows your ignorance.
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Lol, as if there are only a handful of successful blacks in this country. More evidence of your fake blackness.
 
TTQ64 said:
Absolutely not!

In fact, your absurd post confirms how unequal this country is.

The fact that you can count on 1 hand how many "Blacks that have succeeded" in this country IN-SPITE of the oppression, racism, institutional racism and white privilege shows your ignorance.
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I think you missed one of my posts or you are a mutant with over 100 fingers. Also dumb ass the list you are whi ing about are Billionaires that doesn't include the thousands of millionaires. So your premise that blacks can't make it without help is both bullshit and degrading to those who are trying to succeed.
 
Eagle-Eye said:
I think you missed one of my posts or you are a mutant with over 100 fingers. Also dumb ass the list you are whi ing about are Billionaires that doesn't include the thousands of millionaires. So your premise that blacks can't make it without help is both bullshit and degrading to those who are trying to succeed.
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That's YOU'RE premise.

I said we need EQUALITY...........you're to stupid to know the difference.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Don't let the stupid twit get under your skin. This is a person who has falsely claimed to be an "inner city" (code for mostly-black) m.s. teacher, who has referred to that student body as "thugs" (code word for you-know-what). So OF COURSE in her race-twisted mind, the only problem with education today is bad parenting.

I would agree that that is part of the problem, but definitely not the entire issue which has multiple causes, including institutional racism in the form of failure to fund and staff certain districts the same as other districts. Why should parents have to move to allow their kid to go to a better school with decent premises and buildings, engaged teachers, up-to-date textbooks, computers, and other modern learning tools? Why aren't all public schools equally staffed and funded?
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I'm sure you've seen this where you live a number of cities/towns will pass bond measures (increase taxes) as additional funding for their schools. These generally tend to be middle to upper middle class cities/towns that do this. On one hand it's being done in a democratic process as voted on by the people living there. But it also means that money is allocated for that city/town school district only. Is that fair?
 
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